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Old 07/20/2015, 04:13 PM   #1326
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my hawaiian harlequin was fine until i dosed H2O2...he died shortly thereafter


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Old 07/21/2015, 04:56 AM   #1327
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This could play a part in the low calcium readings and coral growth problems.
Wow, this organism needs to knock it off already! Bad enough it can make several toxins AND glow in the dark.

(I've been sticking my hands in my tank..really got to stop doing that)

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Old 07/22/2015, 09:09 AM   #1328
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To follow up with my squeaky clean rocks I vacuumed the sandbed thoroughly four days in a row, just to see if detritus plays any part in how dinos resettle on the sand.

In 24 hours they are back at the same density and coverage as the the day before.

The conclusion is that detritus has no effect.

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This is contradictory to the nutrients theory from oceanographers.


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Old 07/22/2015, 12:16 PM   #1329
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Figured I'd jump on this post. Have a bad case of it,

things I've tried:

Sucking out all of the sand and going BB ---- No effect dinos cover glass bottom same as if it were sand.

Currently trying blackout treatment ---- On day 2 dinos still there but not growing, will suck all of them out after 4 day blackout and see what happens.

Going to install a sump on Saturday with a new eshopps skimmer and attach a coralife UV sterilizer to the return line and see if it does any damage.

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Old 07/22/2015, 12:50 PM   #1330
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dustinkimpel:

We have a rich and diverse plankton theme going now.
Since some have reported dino blooms after decimating the plankton with algae killers it sounds logical.

I'm getting a bucket of filthy sandbed next week and 80 pounds of live rock when ever that will be available over here.


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Old 07/22/2015, 01:07 PM   #1331
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Hmm. I will probably go to that next, I'm also thinking about the H202 treatment but I have a cleaner shrimp that will probably have to be moved during it from what I've been reading. Anyone here have any luck with H202? There's a lot of people that swear its the miracle cure...


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Old 07/22/2015, 01:08 PM   #1332
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We have a rich and diverse plankton theme going now.
Since some have reported dino blooms after decimating the plankton with algae killers it sounds logical.

I'm getting a bucket of filthy sandbed next week and 80 pounds of live rock when ever that will be available over here.
I think the diverse plankton theme is the way to go. I've been battling dinos for over a year. I started a algae scrubber several months ago. The scrubber has been taking up all my nitrates and phosphates so two weeks ago I shut down my skimmer and started dosing phyto. since then my pod population has taken off and my dinos are almost gone. I'm done to a few strands on one rock in my 90 gallon tank.


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Old 07/22/2015, 01:22 PM   #1333
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To follow up with my squeaky clean rocks I vacuumed the sandbed thoroughly four days in a row, just to see if detritus plays any part in how dinos resettle on the sand.

In 24 hours they are back at the same density and coverage as the the day before.

The conclusion is that detritus has no effect.

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This is contradictory to the nutrients theory from oceanographers.
I'm really leaning towards 'bacterial imbalance' or some other ecological system level disturbance.
Taking a turkey baster to everything sure spreads cyano well!
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Old 07/22/2015, 01:23 PM   #1334
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I have already dosed H2O2 5 times, 30 milliliters each day to my 300 gallons.
The day after the first dose there were noticeably more dinos than the day before. (Approx 50% more).

The dinos have also changed their appearance from almost all dusty before to much more stringy now.
It seems to me like the conditions for the dinos are better than before the H2O2 so I'm only doing one more dose tomorrow.
Ostreopsis eat peroxide for breakfast.


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Old 07/22/2015, 01:39 PM   #1335
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I'm so fed up with this ugly bubbly snot...


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Old 07/22/2015, 01:39 PM   #1336
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So you suggest I should try adding some pods to my sump when I get it installed?


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Old 07/22/2015, 02:00 PM   #1337
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Figured I'd jump on this post. Have a bad case of it,

things I've tried:

Sucking out all of the sand and going BB ---- No effect dinos cover glass bottom same as if it were sand.

Currently trying blackout treatment ---- On day 2 dinos still there but not growing, will suck all of them out after 4 day blackout and see what happens.

Going to install a sump on Saturday with a new eshopps skimmer and attach a coralife UV sterilizer to the return line and see if it does any damage.

Will keep updated.

I have dinos and have been bare bottom since the beginning.

Two things I've noticed.

Dinos's and Cyano (as reported) can have some sort of symbiosis

Grows all over my rocks, corals and sides as well as on cyano.


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Old 07/22/2015, 02:01 PM   #1338
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I think the diverse plankton theme is the way to go. I've been battling dinos for over a year. I started a algae scrubber several months ago. The scrubber has been taking up all my nitrates and phosphates so two weeks ago I shut down my skimmer and started dosing phyto. since then my pod population has taken off and my dinos are almost gone. I'm done to a few strands on one rock in my 90 gallon tank.
What Phyto are you dosing?

I ordered the P&P package from algae barn, which should be here Thursday. I have a really small bio load in my 90 gallon. I have a Major Damsel and two Platinum Clowns. I have a Skimz monzter sm302 which I got to go on a larger tank when I upgrade and I think its just way to big for this tank and my bioload. It pulls a ton of gunk but it seems to impair my tanks balance. I never had dinos until I added it.


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Old 07/22/2015, 02:06 PM   #1339
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What Phyto are you dosing?
There is a guy locally that grows it.


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Old 07/22/2015, 02:16 PM   #1340
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There is a guy locally that grows it.
Cool, I am going to get some local too I think. Looking to go as diverse as possible


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Old 07/22/2015, 02:23 PM   #1341
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I have dinos and have been bare bottom since the beginning.

Two things I've noticed.

Dinos's and Cyano (as reported) can have some sort of symbiosis

Grows all over my rocks, corals and sides as well as on cyano.
Me too. If I look carefully at my cyano, there's tons of dino in there. Cyano is a notorious nitrogen fixer, and many strains of it are diazotrophic (don't need organic or inorganic N, can make it from dissolved gas) so the dino are probably snagging some free food.


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Old 07/22/2015, 02:29 PM   #1342
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Figured I'd jump on this post. Have a bad case of it,

things I've tried:

Sucking out all of the sand and going BB ---- No effect dinos cover glass bottom same as if it were sand.

Currently trying blackout treatment ---- On day 2 dinos still there but not growing, will suck all of them out after 4 day blackout and see what happens.

Going to install a sump on Saturday with a new eshopps skimmer and attach a coralife UV sterilizer to the return line and see if it does any damage.

Will keep updated.
I've been doing repeated 3 day blackouts. No effect until this current one, which was attempt 4. They're not gone by any means, but it knocked them back. Oddly enough the cyano is a lot worse.

I went to salt water from fresh to experience managing an ecosystem..this is NOT what I meant. Stupid learning experiences, lol

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Old 07/22/2015, 02:37 PM   #1343
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I treated mine in 3 different systems like this.

Dose chemiclean as directed
Add carbon
blow off with turkey baster daily
Change socks daily
Treat with Pohls Coral Snow with a few drops of MB7 or Zeobak daily. After about 3 weeks no more dino...

At the first sign of a bubble dose again with CS and ZB


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Old 07/22/2015, 03:30 PM   #1344
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What Phyto are you dosing?

I ordered the P&P package from algae barn, which should be here Thursday. I have a really small bio load in my 90 gallon. I have a Major Damsel and two Platinum Clowns. I have a Skimz monzter sm302 which I got to go on a larger tank when I upgrade and I think its just way to big for this tank and my bioload. It pulls a ton of gunk but it seems to impair my tanks balance. I never had dinos until I added it.
Check my post #1233 there are links to some of the critters I've been adding to my tank, I also culture and dose phytoplankton.
I went the dirty method.
I had Ostreopsis Ovata but now I'm dino free.


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Old 07/22/2015, 03:50 PM   #1345
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I've been doing repeated 3 day blackouts. No effect until this current one, which was attempt 4. They're not gone by any means, but it knocked them back. Oddly enough the cyano is a lot worse.

I went to salt water from fresh to experience managing an ecosystem..this is NOT what I meant. Stupid learning experiences, lol

ivy
Since Sunday, I have started feeding tons of frozen food (not rinsed), shut off my skimmer, I haven't done a water change in months or a test of any kind.

Thursday I am adding the phyto and pods from algaebarn and I am going to pick up pods / phyto near by.

Cleanup crew is pretty much a trochus snail and a peppermint shrimp. Not going to change anything there.


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Check my post #1233 there are links to some of the critters I've been adding to my tank, I also culture and dose phytoplankton.
I went the dirty method.
I had Ostreopsis Ovata but now I'm dino free.
Thx, I saw that post and its where I got the idea.


How bad was the tank and how long did it take to clear up.

I'd say 75% of my tank is covered.


EDIT: your link to IPSF looks copied paste from your PODS+
And I have an order of pods, worms, stars coming from IPSF
http://www.reefcleaners.org/aquarium-store/pods

I found http://ipsf.com/



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Old 07/22/2015, 04:18 PM   #1347
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I found heavy feeding. Auto top off with kalkwasser and less water changes cleared my dinos.


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Old 07/22/2015, 04:56 PM   #1348
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I found heavy feeding. Auto top off with kalkwasser and less water changes cleared my dinos.
I too added Kalkwasser back


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Old 07/22/2015, 09:30 PM   #1349
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Since Sunday, I have started feeding tons of frozen food (not rinsed), shut off my skimmer, I haven't done a water change in months or a test of any kind.

Thursday I am adding the phyto and pods from algaebarn and I am going to pick up pods / phyto near by.

Cleanup crew is pretty much a trochus snail and a peppermint shrimp. Not going to change anything there.
I hope that works for you!
Feeding makes mine worse, but then I seem to have a really toxic strain. Whenever I siphon off more than 1/4 of the tank, I see waves of dead pods, bristleworms, etc. This is running fresh carbon, filterfloss, filter socks, skimming very wet. Microfauna no doubt the way to go, just find me a company who'll ship to Canada.

Did discover this morning that my hermit crab is in fact alive, he just moulted and switched shells. Don't know what the poor thing is eating in there, but go crabby!

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Old 07/22/2015, 09:39 PM   #1350
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I treated mine in 3 different systems like this.

Dose chemiclean as directed
Add carbon
blow off with turkey baster daily
Change socks daily
Treat with Pohls Coral Snow with a few drops of MB7 or Zeobak daily. After about 3 weeks no more dino...

At the first sign of a bubble dose again with CS and ZB
This is the Zeovit people's coral snow? I see a couple of brands with that name.

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