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Unread 08/03/2014, 08:05 PM   #1
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Solomon Islands True Percula Info Needed

Does anybody have any information in terms of care on Amphiprion Percula from Solomon Islands? Pictures will be appreciated. Thanks.


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Unread 08/03/2014, 10:10 PM   #2
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Care is the same as any other percula or occellaris. WP is good 78degree feed it with good food. Hope this help


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Unread 08/03/2014, 10:20 PM   #3
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Care is the same as any other percula or occellaris. WP is good 78degree feed it with good food. Hope this help

Thanks I was guessing the same. Hoping someone will post pics of their true percs or onyx clowns from Solomon Islands.



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True Perculas.........I mean the ones that have extense black color over the body.............are founded in the shallows.............hodsted in Stichodactyla gigantea...............

The ones that are founded in deep waters............hosted in Heteractis magnifica do not show extense black color over the mantle.............

The presence of black color seems to be related with the anemone species.............combined with a genetic issue too...........

I select few pictures of the fishes hosted in Stichodactyla gigantea first.......

From Solomons.......



But these fishes are founded in PNG too..........from Raja Ampat/Tufi..........in direction of the South East - PNG...............






This is a nice pic of a Juvenile...........





These are few exemples founded in shallows...........hosted in Stichodactyla gigantea...........



These are called True Percula..............



But in the same geographic range.........the fishes founded in Heteractis magnifica do not show these colors............

They have the same differenciated band shapes...........but they lack extensive black color over the body...........


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Amphiprion percula hosted in Heteractis magnifica.................

Here are few exemples :

Great Barrier Reef........Australia.......







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True Perculas.........I mean the ones that have extense black color over the body.............are founded in the shallows.............hodsted in Stichodactyla gigantea...............

The ones that are founded in deep waters............hosted in Heteractis magnifica do not show extense black color over the mantle.............

The presence of black color seems to be related with the anemone species.............combined with a genetic issue too...........

I select few pictures of the fishes hosted in Stichodactyla gigantea first.......

From Solomons.......




They have the same differenciated band shapes...........but they lack extensive black color over the body...........

thanks for the pics and info.



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Solomon Islands True Percula Info Needed

From animal-world.com "It has also been noted that those specimens with darker colors are found to associate with the carpet anemones of the Stichodactyla genus in the wild. If they are not kept with one of these anemones in captivity, their darker colors will fade." It's just says Stichodactyla...no differentiation between haddoni and gigantea. So I'm curious whether or not the colors will fade if housed with Haddoni.


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See when I had my pair of true percs they lived in a bubble tip and the had a lot of black. I've also seen onyx without an anemone that are still very black.


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From animal-world.com "It has also been noted that those specimens with darker colors are found to associate with the carpet anemones of the Stichodactyla genus in the wild. If they are not kept with one of these anemones in captivity, their darker colors will fade." It's just says Stichodactyla...no differentiation between haddoni and gigantea. So I'm curious whether or not the colors will fade if housed with Haddoni.
Had a pair many many years ago (( the female jumped { a screen top does no good unless it is on the tank }, about 2 years ago, still have the male { now the female } )), and had drastic color changes with them.

When I first received them;



When they first started to be hosted by an M. doreensis



Six months later,



3 months later, hosted by an S. haddoni, no other changes.

male



female,




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Unread 08/04/2014, 09:15 AM   #10
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Very intresting report.........

It seems that they have a genetic issue too..........

This is a nice thread to read........

http://www.marinebreeder.org/forums/...pic.php?t=1586


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Had a pair many many years ago (( the female jumped { a screen top does no good unless it is on the tank }, about 2 years ago, still have the male { now the female } )), and had drastic color changes with them.



When I first received them;







When they first started to be hosted by an M. doreensis







Six months later,







3 months later, hosted by an S. haddoni, no other changes.



male







female,




Todd thank you very much for sharing. Very interesting color changes. Your clowns are amazing.



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Very intresting report.........

It seems that they have a genetic issue too..........

This is a nice thread to read........

http://www.marinebreeder.org/forums/...pic.php?t=1586

That's an interesting thread.



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I found Nemo.........kkkkkk

GBR - Australia.......



Dorsal Spines count of Amphiprion percula......is 10........normally........

When hosted in Heteractis magnifica they don´t show Melanism...............


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General care requirements for all Percula is the same. For SI or PNG percs with a lot of black, and those considered "Onyx" as the linked thread above discusses, there are recommended husbandry techniques believed to help maintain the dark black coloration -- housed with S. gigantea and lots of light.

That said, I believe that genetics play a big part in tank-bred Onyx. My Rods (C-Quest) lineage clowns are dark black (see my avatar) and the babies they produced were a mix, though most are very dark. My pair are in the DT under Radions with a S. gigantea (before it died). They have maintained their coloration even without an anemone host. The remaining babies I have left are housed in a different tank with a S. gigantea and two H. magnifica under a Kessil A350, and I see no change in coloration. All of the clowns use all of the anemones as hosts.


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My wild caught Soloman Island percs




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My wild caught Soloman Island percs




That's gorgeous!



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Yes.........nice pair..........

Just adding some videos to this thread...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gocdKSPqbhM

Look how is shallow.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy2AuP7Pbto


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So shallow and the clowns are feisty! Nice vids.



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How do they survive the low tides? Puzzling.



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Few pictures of Amphiprion ocellaris.............exposed at Low Tide.........in Semakau...........Singapore...........



This is crazy.......but there are lots of pictures of these fishes exposed at Low Tide in Singapore...........



They are trapped in the Tide Pools.............



It seems that they stay covered with a fine film of water like this..............in Low Tide period.............



Semakau.......



Looking at this........I think that the Anemone mucus plays an important rule in Clownfish survival.........at Low Tide exposure..............



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I remember seeing some of these a few years back. Love the half black body pattern!




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They are great.......

Kavieng - New Ireland - Papua New Guinea




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Well, went to a fish store. They told me on the phone they had wild caught true percs from Solomon Islands. When I got there they turned out to be NOT from SI...but Indonesia. On a good note they had a nice mag anemone I picked up.


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They are great.......



Kavieng - New Ireland - Papua New Guinea




Is it a gig or mertens anemone hosting the clowns? Looks like a gigantea but can't tell for sure with my limited carpet experience.


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This is gig.......for me.......


I have some doubts about the extension of Amphiprion percula geographic range..............

I don´t know exactly where their occurrence stops...........

I found some pictures from Raja Ampat............Papua Indonesia.....

The fishes founded there looks like Amphiprion ocellaris to me...........







11 Dorsal Spines count..........





Hosted in Stichodactyla mertensii........



They show signs of Melanism..........when hosted in Merten´s........






These Images are from Raja Ampat...........Indonesia..........

And I believe that they are Amphiprion ocellaris...........


I don´t know the exact place where Amphiprion percula occurrence stops......

In Madang..........the fish is Amphiprion percula.........I saw few pictures of True Percula from Madang...........

Maybe they occours a little bit to the North............something between Madang and Raja Ampat..............

But I don´t know where Amphiprion percula and Amphiprion ocellaris are separated............

I think that the fishes from Raja Ampat are Amphiprion ocellaris..........

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