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Old 03/19/2017, 03:23 AM   #51
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Noticing different algae growth on my glass with these lights. Prior reefbreeders get a softer, dust algae; these grow a harder, greener algae. No conclusion yet drawn, just observation.
I experience the opposite. Almost no algae on the glass and I only have to clean it 1-2 times a week


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Old 03/19/2017, 07:59 AM   #52
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Noticing different algae growth on my glass with these lights. Prior reefbreeders get a softer, dust algae; these grow a harder, greener algae. No conclusion yet drawn, just observation.
Stronger amount of light hitting the glass possibly?
I noticed in my par tests that as I got farther down into the tank, par INCREASED as I got towards the glass.


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Old 03/19/2017, 09:04 AM   #53
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Either that or spectrum differences than the prior lights (as one would expect). Just struck me as curious - neither good nor bad just different.


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Old 03/19/2017, 10:01 AM   #54
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Old 03/19/2017, 10:12 AM   #55
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Old 03/19/2017, 01:21 PM   #56
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No meter readings. I find all LED fixtures have shadowing issues unless you over compensate by increasing the amount of clusters/fixtures. Depends on what you want to keep in the tank. If I were to keep SPS, I would have two XR30s rather then the two XR15s currently.
hey, is your tank covered with something? what is it? I see white glare from the cover surface...


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Old 03/19/2017, 08:02 PM   #57
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D2mini do you think 2 radion pro is enough for elos 120xl


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Old 03/20/2017, 10:53 PM   #58
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hey, is your tank covered with something? what is it? I see white glare from the cover surface...
DIY screen top kit from BRS.


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Old 03/21/2017, 02:18 AM   #59
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I just can't get enough of these g4 pros! They are so superior to the Hydra 52 HD in every way...

Nothing and I mean nothing compares.


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Old 03/21/2017, 04:17 PM   #60
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Just got my G4 Pro installed over the weekend. Very impressive so far...all milliporas are seem to be hairier with the coral lab ab template. I have a few pix to share.
What are the dimensions of your tank ?


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Old 03/21/2017, 04:21 PM   #61
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Hooked up my Gen4 pro trio last night so today is day 1. Running them up to about 50% initially. Tank looks very different than with the prior reefbreeders - much more MH like. About my only complaint (has to be one, right) is that the fans run 24/7 and don't shut down at night.
Do you feel that 3 x Gen 4 pro is adequate for your tank? Is that a 6' long tank? Also, did you have the Photon V2 32's?


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Old 03/21/2017, 04:29 PM   #62
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how many G4 u guys think i need for a 265 84Lx32Hx24W sps and softies


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Old 03/21/2017, 04:35 PM   #63
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How many g4 u guys think i need for a 265 84lx32hx24w sps and softies
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Old 03/21/2017, 09:50 PM   #64
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Hooked up my Gen4 pro trio last night so today is day 1. Running them up to about 50% initially. Tank looks very different than with the prior reefbreeders - much more MH like. About my only complaint (has to be one, right) is that the fans run 24/7 and don't shut down at night.
How much noise do the fans make? If I were to buy these lights, I would need eight of them to cover my tank. If they are as niosy as the Hydras, I don't think I would like listening to that noise at night


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Old 03/21/2017, 10:03 PM   #65
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I have 3x XR15 pros over my 36x24x24 sps tank two gen 3 (WA lens) on the ends and a g4 in the middle. the two g3's were no enough imo but with the G4 in the middle there is much better coverage. The g3 are at 100% and the G4 at 70% both running SPSAB+ The tank is 2 months old so early days but things are encouraging atm with encrusting and vertical growth.

The GREAT thing about the XR15s is that the fans are off at night and very quiet when on, with one fan per puck.


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Old 05/03/2017, 09:14 AM   #66
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I'm seriously thinking a about upgrading from gen1 to gen4. The gen1's still work wonderfully, and they are still growing corals with no problem. Compared to the gen1, do the new lenses on the gen4 reduce shadowing? Also, could I expect the gen4's to provide a shimmer that would more closely resemble metal halide than the gen1 fixtures?

I'm after reducing shadows, the metal halide type of shimmer, and a broader spectrum than my gen1 offers. I would love to stick with Radions as my experience with ecotech has been top notch products and customer service. However, I'm also considering kessil's solely for the shimmer or possible even getting a t5/mh fixture. Would the gen4's get me close to what I'm after? I know a mh/t5 fixture would be what I really need, but there are obvious drawbacks and I'd rather stick with a radion if it gets me close enough.

Also, the light is suspended over a rimless tank, so looks matter and I don't want to to a kessil's/t5 or ecotech/t5 retrofit as I feel that it would look clunky suspended in open air above my tank.


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Old 05/03/2017, 09:45 AM   #67
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Compared to the gen1, do the new lenses on the gen4 reduce shadowing? Also, could I expect the gen4's to provide a shimmer that would more closely resemble metal halide than the gen1 fixtures?
I am new to Radion with Gen4, so no experience with the prior versions, but I don't see how a lens can really improve shadowing since the light is still fundamentally a point source. I imagine the lenses improve spread, but absent a large reflector to change the origin point of the light I think shadowing is still a problem. Gen4 do have good shimmer, though not at the MH/Kessil level.


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Old 05/06/2017, 08:50 AM   #68
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Old 05/06/2017, 10:16 AM   #69
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IMO the new HEI lenses seem to blend the different color LEDs and provide an overall better spread then the Gen1 but all LEDs produce shadowing, some more then others.


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I'm running a pair of regular G4's over my 120 (48x30x20 LWH). For SPS, what intensity are you guys running. Right now I'm using a modifed AB program (added a bit more white) and running at 37% total intensity. That seems low to me but I've heard that much higher and I'll burn out my corals.


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Old 05/07/2017, 03:42 AM   #71
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I'm running a pair of regular G4's over my 120 (48x30x20 LWH). For SPS, what intensity are you guys running. Right now I'm using a modifed AB program (added a bit more white) and running at 37% total intensity. That seems low to me but I've heard that much higher and I'll burn out my corals.
I am running the same program at 75% intensity with the lights 13" above the water. 37% seem low.


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Old 05/07/2017, 04:31 PM   #72
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I have led's on my 180. The leds are goin out. The 180 is 72x24x24. I would need to get 3 fixtures as the 180 has 2 cross members dividing the tank into 3 sections. anyone have info on which fixtures, the 15 or 30, to go with? TIA


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Old 05/07/2017, 05:23 PM   #73
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Old 05/12/2017, 03:32 PM   #74
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Do you feel that 3 x Gen 4 pro is adequate for your tank? Is that a 6' long tank? Also, did you have the Photon V2 32's?
In answer to your PM, I have a 7' 265. I am using three Gen4 XW30 Pro units, but I still run Kessils (3 of the 360 and 4 of the 160). The three radions replaced two Photon 32 units (V1 not V2). Were I not running the Kessils, three Radions would be insufficient. If you go with radion, I'd try three over a 6' tank first, you can always buy a fourth later. Even though ETM says 24x24 for the Gen4, and that the lenses are improved, it's still a mostly point-source light so shading will be a problem. It's a major issue with the Kessil, which is why I ended up with seven total.


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Old 09/17/2017, 07:13 PM   #75
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Hi guys, any new report on the performance of the G4? How is it doing with SPS?
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