Reef Central Online Community

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 03/19/2017, 01:30 PM   #1
kenith
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 674
2 gyres and looking for more flow

I'm using 2 maxspect gyre 150's with their new advanced. Omg roller and still feel like I need more flow. They are slightly offset from each other and using 100% flow with their LTC (lunar tidal mode). Any suggestions for more flow? Maybe 2 smaller gyres to cover the full 30" width?


__________________
225 In Wall Starphire
ATI 8x80W powermodule
kenith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 02:01 PM   #2
Syntax1325
Acro Addict
 
Syntax1325's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maine
Posts: 598
What size tank? Most likely bb since 150s put out a ton of flow. I've got 2 in a 125 using an alternating ramp program up to 70% and it's fine for me. However, there are a lot of factors involved... rock work, corals etc.

Suggestions: maybe try your gyre's vertically?




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


__________________
Back to halides and loving it!

Current Tank Info: 180g sps dom, 40b sump, Reeflo Dart, Apex, Aquamaxx co2, Reefbrite mh/led pendants w/14k twinarcs, Kore 5th doser, Tunze ATO, Ranco controlling 800 watt Finnex tube, 2 Maxpect Gyre 150XF with Ice Cap Controllers and battery backup, Bean Animal drain
Syntax1325 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 02:14 PM   #3
kenith
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 674
Tank size is 72x30x24. Mainly sps and rock work sits no higher than about 12-14".


__________________
225 In Wall Starphire
ATI 8x80W powermodule
kenith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 02:50 PM   #4
JohnnyHildo
Registered Member
 
JohnnyHildo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 668
i run 2 xf250 gyres in a standard 120 and have lots of flow but my tank is only 48". in your tank i recommend adding a couple mp40's on the backwall as well.


__________________
120G Standard - 40G Sump. Apex - DOS - ATI

Current Tank Info: Acros - Zoas - Palys
JohnnyHildo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 02:59 PM   #5
Syntax1325
Acro Addict
 
Syntax1325's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maine
Posts: 598
220 then? That's a big tank. Not sure how the gyres work in that environment. Do you have the upgraded paddles? I've read that some people think they increase flow.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


__________________
Back to halides and loving it!

Current Tank Info: 180g sps dom, 40b sump, Reeflo Dart, Apex, Aquamaxx co2, Reefbrite mh/led pendants w/14k twinarcs, Kore 5th doser, Tunze ATO, Ranco controlling 800 watt Finnex tube, 2 Maxpect Gyre 150XF with Ice Cap Controllers and battery backup, Bean Animal drain
Syntax1325 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 04:50 PM   #6
kenith
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 674
I don't have the updated paddles, but I feel like the two gyres don't seem enough flow wise. I'm not sure if 4 gyres would be gooo much for a 30" wide tank


__________________
225 In Wall Starphire
ATI 8x80W powermodule
kenith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 04:52 PM   #7
luvreefs23
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 758
I have 2 tunze a and a gyre 150 on a 220...72x24x30 and it's fine. I have it on pulse from 30% to 100% every 3-4 seconds and it easily hits end of tank. The tunzes are little cheap non controllables for surface agitation. You sure you just ain't reaching for an excuse to buy more equipment. J/k lol


luvreefs23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 05:23 PM   #8
kenith
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 674
Quote:
Originally Posted by luvreefs23 View Post
I have 2 tunze a and a gyre 150 on a 220...72x24x30 and it's fine. I have it on pulse from 30% to 100% every 3-4 seconds and it easily hits end of tank. The tunzes are little cheap non controllables for surface agitation. You sure you just ain't reaching for an excuse to buy more equipment. J/k lol
Who in their right mind is not liking for that 😬


__________________
225 In Wall Starphire
ATI 8x80W powermodule
kenith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 06:00 PM   #9
ReefCowboy
Registered Member
 
ReefCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 1,742
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyHildo View Post
i run 2 xf250 gyres in a standard 120 and have lots of flow but my tank is only 48". in your tank i recommend adding a couple mp40's on the backwall as well.
Thats my plan for my 150 60x24x24. Two gyre 250's on opposite sides of tank, and two MP40's on the back wall.
Sps only tank, so flow will be crankin'


__________________
Rimless 150 Gal Sps System: Giesemann Spectra/New Apex/2x MP40qd's+ 2x Gyre XF250's/Cor20/Custom Stand, Sump and Algae Scrubber/2x DOS dosing/Skimz Octa 205i Skimmer
ReefCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 08:00 PM   #10
kenith
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 674
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReefCowboy View Post
Thats my plan for my 150 60x24x24. Two gyre 250's on opposite sides of tank, and two MP40's on the back wall.
Sps only tank, so flow will be crankin'

Nice. My only issue is that the tank is a penninsula in wall. Perhaps 4 gyres, but with two at a slightly lower level and varying the on/off times. Thoughts?


__________________
225 In Wall Starphire
ATI 8x80W powermodule
kenith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 09:40 PM   #11
ReefCowboy
Registered Member
 
ReefCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 1,742
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenith View Post
Nice. My only issue is that the tank is a penninsula in wall. Perhaps 4 gyres, but with two at a slightly lower level and varying the on/off times. Thoughts?
Sounds like lots of flow! Cant go wrong, once you set them just adjust depending on substrate, corals on flow's path. Gyres do an excellent job moving water


__________________
Rimless 150 Gal Sps System: Giesemann Spectra/New Apex/2x MP40qd's+ 2x Gyre XF250's/Cor20/Custom Stand, Sump and Algae Scrubber/2x DOS dosing/Skimz Octa 205i Skimmer
ReefCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/19/2017, 11:25 PM   #12
kenith
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 674
Hagar do you all think about two gyres on opposing walls and two vertically on each comer?


__________________
225 In Wall Starphire
ATI 8x80W powermodule
kenith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/20/2017, 08:47 AM   #13
steallife904
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 944
may want to try a different setting on the advanced controller. something that will let them run closer to 100% longer to make sure the flow hits the other side. I have 2 xf150s on an advanced controller on my 5ft 150 tank. I cant run them higher than 40% or they start moving sand and making some corals mad. I run pump A on gyre mode that ramps up to 40%, then pump B on pulse mode up to 40%.


steallife904 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/20/2017, 10:50 PM   #14
kenith
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 674
So I ordered 2 more gyres along with an aqualink t1 and will play with The settings to create more random flow. Will update after I've figured out what is providing the best results.


__________________
225 In Wall Starphire
ATI 8x80W powermodule
kenith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/21/2017, 01:23 AM   #15
2wheelsonly
Registered Member
 
2wheelsonly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Floyds Knobs, IN
Posts: 259
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenith View Post
I'm using 2 maxspect gyre 150's with their new advanced. Omg roller and still feel like I need more flow. They are slightly offset from each other and using 100% flow with their LTC (lunar tidal mode). Any suggestions for more flow? Maybe 2 smaller gyres to cover the full 30" width?
2 150's on a 72 inch tank? That's MORE than enough flow even for an SPS dominated tank. What makes you think you need more flow? How do the corals look? If you're looking for a tsunami inside the tank you're not going to get it with gyres. They are the kings of indirect flow and in my mind that's what makes them superior to vortech. I just wish they had a fraction of the durability and ease of cleaning the vortechs do.

My 96x30x24 has an MP60 on one side and a gyre 150 on the other. SPS near the gyre are amazing with great PE...sps on the MP60 have peeling flesh in areas facing the powerhead.

I am willing to bet you have more than enough flow.


2wheelsonly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/21/2017, 07:30 PM   #16
ReefCowboy
Registered Member
 
ReefCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 1,742
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2wheelsonly View Post
2 150's on a 72 inch tank? That's MORE than enough flow even for an SPS dominated tank. What makes you think you need more flow? How do the corals look? If you're looking for a tsunami inside the tank you're not going to get it with gyres. They are the kings of indirect flow and in my mind that's what makes them superior to vortech. I just wish they had a fraction of the durability and ease of cleaning the vortechs do.

My 96x30x24 has an MP60 on one side and a gyre 150 on the other. SPS near the gyre are amazing with great PE...sps on the MP60 have peeling flesh in areas facing the powerhead.

I am willing to bet you have more than enough flow.
I like the gyres indirect flow. The second "wave" coming back from hitting the glass is ideal IMO, as it passes through corals in a gentle, more natural way.

I have now MP40qd's and agree MP's work well, but to get flow across the other side of the tank, there better not be corals on the way or theyll get blasted.

I plan on two XF250's alternating on a 5' long tank, with two mp40's pushing water near the top from the back to the front glass.
I also really like the fact the gyres allow for flow near the surface, for great agitation and oxigen exchange.


__________________
Rimless 150 Gal Sps System: Giesemann Spectra/New Apex/2x MP40qd's+ 2x Gyre XF250's/Cor20/Custom Stand, Sump and Algae Scrubber/2x DOS dosing/Skimz Octa 205i Skimmer
ReefCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:07 AM.


TapaTalk Enabled

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2020 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright 1999-2014
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.