Hammer Coral receeded and white stuff coming out

BarIzoN · 04/08/2017, 08:02 PM

Hi,

I have a Hammer Coral which is receeded and a white stuff is coming out.

The water parameters seems OK:

Salinity: 1.026
PH: 8.4
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0

I have a 55g sumpless with a Fluval G3.

I went on vacation and the tank stay one month with no water changess.

The corals were all good and now the Hammer isn't good as well as a Green Star Polyp.

Also, I see some cyano forming.

I did a water change when arrived and planning another tomorrow.

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BarIzoN · 04/08/2017, 08:20 PM

Here's a full tank shot

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anthonys51 · 04/08/2017, 08:22 PM

That coral is in need of an iodine dip Also You need to check alk and calcium also.
Also what test kit are you using to test nitrates

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BarIzoN · 04/08/2017, 08:40 PM

API test...

I'll check Alk and Calcium...

Sending the results ASAP.

Both on API kits.

Thanks

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anthonys51 · 04/08/2017, 08:42 PM

The API test kit is notorious for being incorrect.
If you went a month without a water change and don't have a skimmer. I don't think your nitrates are zero

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BarIzoN · 04/08/2017, 08:47 PM

That's the same thought I had... I shutted down my skimmer during this period, because there were nobody to clean. I have a HOB Aquamaxx and it's taking a TON of slime now!

I also have a super low bioload, with only four small fishes, but I have two nitrate tests and I tested on both and both are reading zero.

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anthonys51 · 04/08/2017, 08:50 PM

2 mostly deadly thing for lps corals
Alk and nitrates imo.
Check both of them first.
Also can't hurt to do 20 percent Water change
What other kit do you have

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NYCBOB · 04/09/2017, 06:52 AM

r u using ro water? get rid of the fluval canister. all u need are flow and good water quality.

anthonys51 · 04/09/2017, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYCBOB

r u using ro water? get rid of the fluval canister. all u need are flow and good water quality.

Yes. I just find it hard to believe with the canister filter Not cleaning it for a month and you still have no nitrates

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NYCBOB · 04/09/2017, 07:53 AM

i think he does have a aquamaxx skimmer. a canister filter can cause issue if not clean regularly. the op has enough live rock to do bio-filtration. the canister is really useless in his setup.

anthonys51 · 04/09/2017, 08:17 AM

Well new studies show the sand is probably doing more biological filtration than the rock. But yes I agree with you. No need for the filter. Just adding work to your cleaning schedule that really isn't don't much benefit to the tank

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BarIzoN · 04/10/2017, 09:39 AM

All right,

I had no chance to test ALK and Calcium yet, but the coral is showing improvements. It opened a lot more yesterday and it's looking way better now.

I agree on the API tests quality.

What the test you use / recommend?

Thanks!

- BarIzoN -

anthonys51 · 04/10/2017, 09:46 AM

I use Hanna for alk, Red Sea for nitrate , Milwaukee for phosphates, Red Sea for calcium and magnesium

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BarIzoN · 04/10/2017, 09:55 AM

Before the filter my water wasn't "polished".

As you know, I don't have a sump, due to space limitation.

I have a 55G "taller" and "thinner" tank from Petco. I might use that tank as sump in a future, but I'm still learning a lot.

I do have an RO/DI filter, and building my fish room in my basement, so it's a long and slow process to me before move to a bigger tank.

I was also skeptical when I bought the filter, with everybody saying that may be a nitrate factory and it worsen than help...

I did a bet on it, just to prepare for this month leave.

Well, anyways, it seems my water improved a lot - I think also because the carbon and I usually was running on nitrates on 20%ish on my API tests.

After installing the filter, my nitrates decreased to 10%, 5% then zero.

I was shocked when I had zero after the month leave. Again, that might be something with my API kits - I had two nitrate tests, so I tried both and ZERO.

I'm looking forward for suggestions on a better kit, but I can tell that I'm happy with the filter and again, super low maintenance for a sumpless tank.

anthonys51 · 04/10/2017, 10:04 AM

I would by the Red Sea nitrate and test again.
Not saying the API is wrong just saying I don't put much faith into it

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Diana A · 04/10/2017, 10:37 AM

I dont get you guys with the canister filter. I have been using one for years on my tanks with no issues. Water changes and check your water parameters

anthonys51 · 04/10/2017, 10:41 AM

Diana. I been smoking for 20 years. I don't get you doctors who keep saying smoking causes lung cancer

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anthonys51 · 04/10/2017, 10:42 AM

Ps us guys never said you can't run a canister filter. Just saying the work isn't worth the trouble.
Kind of like sand I see you went bare bottom. Probably because you didn't think the sand was worth the trouble. But many people have sand in there tank for years

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Diana A · 04/10/2017, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonys51

Diana. I been smoking for 20 years. I don't get you doctors who keep saying smoking causes lung cancer

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Good luck with that😂

BarIzoN · 04/10/2017, 11:44 AM

Oh, also, one thing I remembered here:

My RO/DI water output is giving me TDS of "1".

Is that OK to add this water in the tank?

If not, what specifically should I replace in my RO/DI system?

I do have a 90GPD from Spectrapure. Standard model.

Again, thanks for all your feedback!

anthonys51 · 04/10/2017, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diana aliprandi

Good luck with that

I really don't smoke

. Just trying to make a point

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anthonys51 · 04/10/2017, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarIzoN

Oh, also, one thing I remembered here:

My RO/DI water output is giving me TDS of "1".

Is that OK to add this water in the tank?

If not, what specifically should I replace in my RO/DI system?

I do have a 90GPD from Spectrapure. Standard model.

Again, thanks for all your feedback!

Should be zero. But 1 isn't bad. But I normally change ny carbon every six months but I have 600 gallon system

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BarIzoN · 04/10/2017, 12:21 PM

Yup... At very beginning it was zero, and I bought the unit in October with no media changes yet.

What do you recommend me to change? Everything or it depends?

anthonys51 · 04/10/2017, 12:44 PM

Carbon every 6 months it's cheap like 7 bucks each. Sediment filter you can do less but look at it. Di I do once a year

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BarIzoN · 04/10/2017, 04:08 PM

OK!

I'll start with Carbon... I bought the extra media, I was just wondering what to change in first, or change everything at same time.

Appreciate your comment.

04/08/2017, 08:02 PM	#1
BarIzoN Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 163	Hammer Coral receeded and white stuff coming out Hi, I have a Hammer Coral which is receeded and a white stuff is coming out. The water parameters seems OK: Salinity: 1.026 PH: 8.4 Ammonia: 0 Nitrite: 0 Nitrate: 0 I have a 55g sumpless with a Fluval G3. I went on vacation and the tank stay one month with no water changess. The corals were all good and now the Hammer isn't good as well as a Green Star Polyp. Also, I see some cyano forming. I did a water change when arrived and planning another tomorrow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/10/2017, 10:37 AM	#16
Diana A Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: New Jersey Posts: 682	I dont get you guys with the canister filter. I have been using one for years on my tanks with no issues. Water changes and check your water parameters __________________ diana

04/08/2017, 08:20 PM	#2
BarIzoN Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 163	Here's a full tank shot Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/08/2017, 08:22 PM	#3
anthonys51 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kings Park, NY Posts: 2,789	That coral is in need of an iodine dip Also You need to check alk and calcium also. Also what test kit are you using to test nitrates Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/08/2017, 08:40 PM	#4
BarIzoN Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 163	API test... I'll check Alk and Calcium... Sending the results ASAP. Both on API kits. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/08/2017, 08:42 PM	#5
anthonys51 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kings Park, NY Posts: 2,789	The API test kit is notorious for being incorrect. If you went a month without a water change and don't have a skimmer. I don't think your nitrates are zero Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/08/2017, 08:47 PM	#6
BarIzoN Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 163	That's the same thought I had... I shutted down my skimmer during this period, because there were nobody to clean. I have a HOB Aquamaxx and it's taking a TON of slime now! I also have a super low bioload, with only four small fishes, but I have two nitrate tests and I tested on both and both are reading zero. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/08/2017, 08:50 PM	#7
anthonys51 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kings Park, NY Posts: 2,789	2 mostly deadly thing for lps corals Alk and nitrates imo. Check both of them first. Also can't hurt to do 20 percent Water change What other kit do you have Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/09/2017, 06:52 AM	#8
NYCBOB Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 1,768	r u using ro water? get rid of the fluval canister. all u need are flow and good water quality.

04/09/2017, 07:53 AM	#10
NYCBOB Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 1,768	i think he does have a aquamaxx skimmer. a canister filter can cause issue if not clean regularly. the op has enough live rock to do bio-filtration. the canister is really useless in his setup.

04/09/2017, 08:17 AM	#11
anthonys51 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kings Park, NY Posts: 2,789	Well new studies show the sand is probably doing more biological filtration than the rock. But yes I agree with you. No need for the filter. Just adding work to your cleaning schedule that really isn't don't much benefit to the tank Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/10/2017, 09:39 AM	#12
BarIzoN Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 163	All right, I had no chance to test ALK and Calcium yet, but the coral is showing improvements. It opened a lot more yesterday and it's looking way better now. I agree on the API tests quality. What the test you use / recommend? Thanks! - BarIzoN -

04/10/2017, 09:46 AM	#13
anthonys51 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kings Park, NY Posts: 2,789	I use Hanna for alk, Red Sea for nitrate , Milwaukee for phosphates, Red Sea for calcium and magnesium Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/10/2017, 09:55 AM	#14
BarIzoN Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 163	Before the filter my water wasn't "polished". As you know, I don't have a sump, due to space limitation. I have a 55G "taller" and "thinner" tank from Petco. I might use that tank as sump in a future, but I'm still learning a lot. I do have an RO/DI filter, and building my fish room in my basement, so it's a long and slow process to me before move to a bigger tank. I was also skeptical when I bought the filter, with everybody saying that may be a nitrate factory and it worsen than help... I did a bet on it, just to prepare for this month leave. Well, anyways, it seems my water improved a lot - I think also because the carbon and I usually was running on nitrates on 20%ish on my API tests. After installing the filter, my nitrates decreased to 10%, 5% then zero. I was shocked when I had zero after the month leave. Again, that might be something with my API kits - I had two nitrate tests, so I tried both and ZERO. I'm looking forward for suggestions on a better kit, but I can tell that I'm happy with the filter and again, super low maintenance for a sumpless tank.

04/10/2017, 10:04 AM	#15
anthonys51 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kings Park, NY Posts: 2,789	I would by the Red Sea nitrate and test again. Not saying the API is wrong just saying I don't put much faith into it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/10/2017, 10:41 AM	#17
anthonys51 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kings Park, NY Posts: 2,789	Diana. I been smoking for 20 years. I don't get you doctors who keep saying smoking causes lung cancer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/10/2017, 10:42 AM	#18
anthonys51 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kings Park, NY Posts: 2,789	Ps us guys never said you can't run a canister filter. Just saying the work isn't worth the trouble. Kind of like sand I see you went bare bottom. Probably because you didn't think the sand was worth the trouble. But many people have sand in there tank for years Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/10/2017, 11:44 AM	#20
BarIzoN Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 163	Oh, also, one thing I remembered here: My RO/DI water output is giving me TDS of "1". Is that OK to add this water in the tank? If not, what specifically should I replace in my RO/DI system? I do have a 90GPD from Spectrapure. Standard model. Again, thanks for all your feedback!

04/10/2017, 12:21 PM	#23
BarIzoN Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 163	Yup... At very beginning it was zero, and I bought the unit in October with no media changes yet. What do you recommend me to change? Everything or it depends?

04/10/2017, 12:44 PM	#24
anthonys51 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kings Park, NY Posts: 2,789	Carbon every 6 months it's cheap like 7 bucks each. Sediment filter you can do less but look at it. Di I do once a year Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/10/2017, 04:08 PM	#25
BarIzoN Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 163	OK! I'll start with Carbon... I bought the extra media, I was just wondering what to change in first, or change everything at same time. Appreciate your comment.