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Old 04/25/2017, 10:45 PM   #26
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Wow, that's going to be an impressive upgrade!

Don't know if I qualify as a "strong lad", but feel free to reach out on moving-day ... or whenever. (Maybe I can convince my son and some of his sturdier friends . . . )

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Old 04/25/2017, 11:09 PM   #27
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Can't wait to see what you put together. Will be following along.
Let me know if you need a hand.


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Old 04/25/2017, 11:18 PM   #28
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I plan to offer copious amounts of beer and pizza, and free frags, to anyone willing to lend a hand when the time comes. Also going to build a cart so that lifting is minimized in favor of pushing


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Old 04/26/2017, 10:01 AM   #29
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Yeah, I can almost guarantee the MP40 pumps will not work. I had 3/4" on an 8' long tank and if you looked at them funny they'd fall off, and this is with no spacer. Granted these were older MP40 pumps (like the ones that came right after they upgraded from the metallic magnets) but I don't think they could have changed the magnet strength that much.


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Old 04/26/2017, 10:36 AM   #30
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I'm not so concerned about them sticking, I can rig extra support. It's whether they'll adequately transfer torque. Did you have issues with that?


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Old 04/26/2017, 07:22 PM   #31
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I plan to offer copious amounts of beer and pizza, and free frags, to anyone willing to lend a hand when the time comes. Also going to build a cart so that lifting is minimized in favor of pushing
Count me in for beers, pizza an free frags. Joke aside I bought a lift cart and it help a lot during my transfer from 180 to 375 ( 8' x 3' x 24") between myself and one friend


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Old 04/26/2017, 09:35 PM   #32
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What kind of lift cart? I was just figuring on building a wooden stand with weight appropriate casters on the bottom.


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Old 04/26/2017, 10:45 PM   #33
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What kind of lift cart? I was just figuring on building a wooden stand with weight appropriate casters on the bottom.
Something like this but my can lift over 1000lbs. http://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb-...art-61405.html


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Old 05/01/2017, 12:58 PM   #34
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Tank ordered ..... no turning back now.


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Old 05/01/2017, 07:08 PM   #35
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Who's building the tank?
Might have to make the trip up for frags


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Old 05/01/2017, 11:19 PM   #36
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Tsunami 400 (with mods) form FTDirect in Fla. There will be loads of frags because I'm going to prune the big colonies back by at least half.


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Old 05/02/2017, 01:42 PM   #37
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Awesome! I followed your last build and I'm excited to follow this one.. If only I was local I'd be there! Although I am down for frags if you've got extras


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Old 05/02/2017, 10:59 PM   #38
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Hopefully this one will go as well as the other one did. I've already upsized my ATO reservoir and CaRx in anticipation. Sump's an old Oceanic 150, so more than enough for a 400 display. 400 will be my max. I always chuckle when I see those huge tanks with the owner in a SCUBA mask placing corals. Must mess with the ATO big time. Going to finally do the overflow right - ordered a 36" modular marine with the updated removable weir. Debating on whether to re-use the closed loop or not. Probably will since I have it.


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Old 05/03/2017, 08:37 AM   #39
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Tsunami 400 (with mods) form FTDirect in Fla. There will be loads of frags because I'm going to prune the big colonies back by at least half.
did you go with the 30x30 or 36x24?


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Old 05/03/2017, 09:48 AM   #40
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did you go with the 30x30 or 36x24?
Neither, actually 96x36x30. External dimensions say 450 gallons, but subtracting the 1" walls yields nominally 400 gallons of water (which is the fairer way to represent size IMO).


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Old 05/03/2017, 01:14 PM   #41
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that is a great choice imho!


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Old 05/03/2017, 01:23 PM   #42
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I'm not so concerned about them sticking, I can rig extra support. It's whether they'll adequately transfer torque. Did you have issues with that?
Sorry for the late reply, it's been a busy week...

but can you support them in tank as well? Because the magnet holds the wetside to the tank wall too.

Of course you can test it right now, just get a 1" thick piece of wood (actual 1" thick not 1 by material) and see if the impeller will spin. Of course there will be a lot more resistance in the water but if it can't do it in air, there's no way it's doing it in water.


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Old 05/03/2017, 01:49 PM   #43
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True, though the dryside is obviously much heavier. I'm actually going to test them with the thick MP60 spacer which when added to 12 mm glass will approximate 1". As long as torque will transfer I can rig an in tank support if needed. But if it doesn't, or the whole thing seems like too much trouble, I can find another use for them.


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Old 05/03/2017, 02:26 PM   #44
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You can be that super awesome reefer guy that runs MP40s on your QT tank


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Old 05/03/2017, 02:48 PM   #45
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You joke, but when I was running my Achilles tang through QT I did have a MP40 on one end of a 30L. The lengths we go to .....


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Old 05/03/2017, 07:49 PM   #46
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I joke because I've been in the same boat of using whatever I have handy, I used to use Tunze stream pumps to mix saltwater, controllable ones!


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Old 05/04/2017, 12:24 PM   #47
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A few folks have asked me via PM some variation of 'Isn't a 265 big enough?' The quick answer, of course, is NO! I view a fish tank like I view storage - crap will proliferate to fill the available space!!!!

So, why am I getting a bigger tank?

1. I am maxed out in the 265 and would like to keep some fish for which 265 is too small.
2. I enjoy the build process more than I enjoy the maintain process - so it's also about not getting bored.
3. I always like to have a major project every year - 2016 it was building a new master bathroom, 2017 a bigger tank.
4. My sons are now old enough to help with a project like this, and that's both a good experience for us and great learning (structural, woodworking, plumbing, fluid dynamics ..... OK, may be that's a stretch).
5. Most importantly ..... just .... because!


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Old 05/04/2017, 01:25 PM   #48
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So, why am I getting a bigger tank?

1. I am maxed out in the 265 and would like to keep some fish for which 265 is too small.
2. I enjoy the build process more than I enjoy the maintain process - so it's also about not getting bored.
3. I always like to have a major project every year - 2016 it was building a new master bathroom, 2017 a bigger tank.
4. My sons are now old enough to help with a project like this, and that's both a good experience for us and great learning (structural, woodworking, plumbing, fluid dynamics ..... OK, may be that's a stretch).
5. Most importantly ..... just .... because!

And you work hard and you deserve it!


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Old 05/04/2017, 06:51 PM   #49
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Does the new tank come with a stand or are you building one yourself?


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Old 05/04/2017, 09:52 PM   #50
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Definitely building. Got the wood working shop in the third garage that needs 'exercising'. New stand, light hood and top rim ..... gots to get cracking though, tank'll be here in 10 weeks.


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