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Old 06/09/2017, 11:36 AM   #51
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DOSER (II) Plus Controller (Fully Installed)

Just in time as I really need to start dosing.

Before I nailed everything down, I did some final touch ups.

-> TRI-Color LED Status Indicators on Dosing Heads
-> Dosing Tray / Tubing Runs / Utility Tray

This is overkill on Lighting, but it looks cool and I will eventually take advantage of the Status indicators when I add a Maintenance Scheduling Reminder Feature into the Controller.



This completes the Tech Talk about the controller.

Hoping next photo's will all be about Coral Growth, Colors, etc.

And I can tell that for the first time in 3 years, SPS growth has really taken off.
I see bumps and new appendages starting on many of the Frags.

Also different from Past, the Colors of the Purple SPS are hanging in.
In past they would all fade to brown.

Also PE extension is everywhere!!

Onward. (Looking forward to Tonight's Weekly Water change (Button Push)


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Old 06/09/2017, 02:25 PM   #52
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TANK Circulation Setup Details

I did a calculation on the Tank Circulation.

I can't go max (especially on Return Pump), but I can certainly make this tank Swirl.

I found a balance that makes fish happy, and I respect everyone's sleep time.


Here are the details:





If I add Fish Fin Movement, close to 11,000 Gallons per Hour

I need to figure out Night mode.

Should I slow things down for SPS to allow PE extension for feeding?
Just a short while?
Any Advice?
(I have read many variations on the Forums)

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Old 06/09/2017, 05:03 PM   #53
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OH OH (Need to watch this Patch) Is it Algae? Good Kind? Bad?

Hmm. I notice Green SPOT this when the MH lights came on. Not as visible during Blue Lighting.

Doesn't look like Hair Algae, but it is something Algae.

The Glass bottom Spot has been there for a long while, but I never noticed it on rocks.



Algae Scrubber is running very well so this shouldn't be happening.

Time to do a Full Water Test ( Most important PO4,NO3).

Maybe time to cut back on the Additives (been doing Aminos).

If it does naturally continue, I need to get an Algae Blenny.
The one in my other tank, won't let a spot of Algae hang around for a day.


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Old 06/09/2017, 05:32 PM   #54
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Wally,
inspect it to see if it is green cyano


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Old 06/09/2017, 06:22 PM   #55
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inspect it to see if it is green cyano
Green Cyano???? I never heard of that before.
How "Do I check it?"

When I look close at the Bottom Glass stuff, it is extending like a Hair Algae Strand, or something Algae like.
On the rocks it's a fine haze, but looks like Algae.

I forgot that I have ZERO snails in DT.
The few that I had went into Sump.

So I got a few snails for the TANK. (Store didn't have any Trocus Snail which are my favourite)



Turbo's should polish the Algae Haze Clean.

Dripping them properly so they don't die.

If Algae runs out, I can always put them into Algae Scrubber section where there is plenty to eat.


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Old 06/09/2017, 07:53 PM   #56
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green cyano is film like, bright color
check the flow in those areas
similar to red cyano but green


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Old 06/10/2017, 11:49 PM   #57
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green cyano is film like, bright color
check the flow in those areas
similar to red cyano but green
Hmm. It is bright green, but the Glass bottom spot is Glass bottom since highest circulation in tank (Sand won't stay there).

Watching to see if the Turbo's eat it.
Hard to tell after one night, but I did put the NightVision TimeLapse camera on tank and All Snails were crazy busy.


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Old 06/10/2017, 11:57 PM   #58
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DOSER (II) Plus Controller (Going With Real Chemicals) ** ALL TESTING PASSED **

The Water changer feature of Controller passed with flying colors. No issues.

Now the Doser Testing is also perfect, so time to change to real Additives.

I do have a 1/3 bottle of Aquaforest Component 1,2,3 to use up.
That will be a good slow/safe start (since not too concentrated).

I approximate 50ml/day to start.

Thus my final testing was done to match that. 100% perfect



I don't think I will continue with AquaForest, 1,2,3 since it's too diluted.
When/If these Acros start getting bigger that could be like 200-500ml a day, which 4 litre bottle wouldn't last too long. Plus $. Bottles are nice, and will be keepers.

I am thinking B-Ionic Alk and Calcium (which I use for other tank). Dosing would roughly 20-50ml a day.

Or just go with Randy's Home made recipe formula for A/B. [Made from Kent's Turbo Calicum, and Plain old Baking Soda]

I have never seen a need to Dose Magnesium (I'm seem to be around 1400) and can't go much lower with Water changes.

Things may change if I start getting growth.
We'll see.



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Old 06/11/2017, 12:33 AM   #59
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DOSING LINE Installation (Couplers) ** Air Bubble Leak Problem Solved **

Thought I would pass on this bit of information on dosing line install.

I had issues with Air Bubbles entering lines from my Dosing Container.

It was the Connections on the Intake of the Dosing Heads.(at Dosing Head and Container) ** INTAKE/Draw side only **

The high quality Soft Silicone tubes are the best, but expensive for long run.
So on Intake I used a tiny piece of the Soft Silicone tubing.

And the Dual Sized Coupler make a great seal.




** NO MORE BUBBLES **


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Old 06/12/2017, 02:49 AM   #60
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STARTED DOSING (AF 1,2,3) - Tank Baseline Parameters


Being Extra Safe.....(Even though I pre-tested everything like 50 times)


-> Dosing into Bottles and manually adding to Tank.
-> For now will use up AF Component 1,2,3 and see how things go with SPS Consumption.
-> Starting with 1/2 Calculated Dose, and will measure if correct.




This was Tank PH Swing Prior to Dosing.




Will do the Semi-Auto Method for a week and then switch to Fully Auto.


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Old 06/12/2017, 07:44 AM   #61
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Looking good Wally. You mentioned testing parameters a few post back. Did you get the tests done?
How's that green stuff? Looks like green cyano to me as well.. is it still around?
Looking at your flow, cyano seems like the last thing you'd get but you never know. Aminos and cyano often go hand in hand.


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Looking good Wally. You mentioned testing parameters a few post back. Did you get the tests done?
How's that green stuff? Looks like green cyano to me as well.. is it still around?
Looking at your flow, cyano seems like the last thing you'd get but you never know. Aminos and cyano often go hand in hand.
The Green Stuff isn't spreading. But appears to be some kind of Algae.
Watching to see if Turbo's do anything to clean up. They need to eat.... (There is no other Algae in tank. Even on Glass it's getting very light)
For now will slow down Amino's. Not feeding Corals any food yet.

Will do a full water test once I stabilize the Dosing, but the basic tests are above.

-> ALK=7.5 Adjusted. (dropping fast daily)
-> CALC=455
-> MAG=1250 ( Now dropping. First time EVER!! )
-> Potassium=420 (Wonder how it got over 400. I did add KCL once a week ago to raise from 390, and I calculated to get to 400)

Should I be getting a Strontium Test kit (Expensive). Seems that the Masters all test for this. But my SPS load is small.
I figure that Between Weekly Water changes, and AF 1,2,3 Dosing, Strontium and other Trace Elements should be fine.



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Old 06/12/2017, 08:43 AM   #63
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Some (tiny) Burnt Tips on SPS

So I guess a few weeks back when I didn't have doser running, I may have had a tiny ALK spike with Adjustments.

I notice that a few acro's have tips burned (tiny tiny bit). And at these tips there is some brown algae forming. Below that TINY tip burn, all is fine.

Should I just leave alone, or cut the tips?

I figure cutting will just make the tip exposure worse (bigger), so leaving alone and watching.


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Old 06/13/2017, 04:34 PM   #64
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Here is a picture of one the SPS corals that is bleaching at the tips.



Only a couple are doing this.

To be safe and for a possible recovery, I dropped MH down from 175W to 150W.

It could be related to the fact that the Supplier of the Frag did have a mini crash (Calcium Reactor Failure during vacation) and many of his corals got burnt tips. So this could be a burn tip hand me down issue and nothing to do with my tank.

All the Frags purchased earlier are doing fine.


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Old 06/13/2017, 04:42 PM   #65
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DOSER (II) Plus Controller (Couple of Water Level Sensor for Water Change BIN)

The Cheapo Level Sensor arrived from China. I will be build a Mini Controller to do Auto Water Changes in other tank (Since I love it).

I built a couple more Water Level Sensors for the Water Changer Bins.



The New-Water Bin Sensor will sense to ensure there is enough water to do a water change (Also give me warning that it's fill up time).

The DUMP-Water Bin Sensor, will sense that Bin it getting close to full and time to empty so water Change can be done.

This extra bit of failsafe mean I can go Total Automation with Water changes.
I can consider increasing Bin Sizes.

I will also have confidence to even do Scheduled Water changes, without supervision.[/IMG]


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Old 06/14/2017, 08:14 PM   #66
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Four Very Special SPS Frags (Sunset, Gomezie, Pink Milli and PINK CADILLAC)

So with things going well, I went on a hunt for the a few missing Colors. (Blue, and Yellow).

I went to a new Store that Fragbox.ca has moved to.

He had exactly what I needed, and unfortunately (MORE).
I say unfortunately since I brought home some Amazing Corals and Rare SPS, and I just spent the most ever on a single frag.

However what I learned from Past, in my other tank, is that spending a bit more for something Special (like my Aussie Torch, Golden Frogspawn), give years of viewing enjoyment. IF THEY DO WELL!!

The rare one is a Reef Raft Pink Cadillac.

The other are quite amazing too. Got my YELLOW (Sunset). Got my BLUE (Gonezie). A awesome (Pink Milli).




As much as I am excited and Happy with the new additions, I am TERRIFIED at the risk I'm taking.

I do have some confidence that things will be stable.

I still worry about how to setup the proper lighting.

Here is how I placed the new Frags.



Middle is safe (but colors may not keep if not enough lighting).

I did measure these Frags at Fragbox's lighting setup (with a Lux Meter, Not Par Meter). Appears that lighting was stronger than my tank running at 150W MH. However Lux is not accurate, and doesn't account for my T5's, or my LED.

Going to be watching this tank very closely.


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FIRST OVERHEAD PHOTO (Of New Tank Setup)

Since this is the Beginning, I move the lights out and got one Top Top to compare to some day in the future.




The photo was taken with all Lights off, except the side Cheapo White LED strip.

You can see the NEW Growth on the Red Montipora that started a couple of week ago when things got stable.


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I DON't TRUST MYSELF WITH ADDITIVES (Time for a Planned Dosing Routing)

From lessons learned in past, when I start with Additives and things go well, I tend to overdo things (which lead to problems like Algae).
Life with Work/Family also distracts me at times.

So I put together an Structured Schedule, to spread things out.


ALL BOTTLES are labelled with HAND SLAPPING dosing regime.


I've considered each product to include something for each:

-> Water Clarification
-> Trace Elements & ALK, CALCIUM, MAG
-> N&P reduction
-> Bacteria
-> Coral Growth/Color Stimulation

I am using Each Product under the recommended amount. About 1/3 or less.

Here is the current plan.



This chart and the Bottle Labels will keep me under control.



I think this is a Safe dosing plan. Not aggressive but some small benefits possible.

Always adjustable as I watch corals react, and I make Water Measurements over time.


And YES, I have decided to do ( TWO 2.5 Gallon Water changes a Week ) , VS ( ONE 5 Gal Water Change )
This is just for the beginning, and mostly since Water Changes are just a button Push now. [Any amount from 1/4 Gal to 8 Gallons] .
From Reading the Article posted above, this is a Middle ground (some water wasted), but good on Toxin removal, and stable Water Parameters.
This will probably reduce my DOSING requirements for (ALK, CALC, etc). That is why I am going with only 5ml a day a this point. (Way under).



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** NO CORAL FOOD ADDITIVES **

I do have several corals foods.
Some I use in my Mixed tank (Reef Roids, Coral Frenzy, Reef Chili, AF Coral Food & AF Pure Food). The last two were specifically bought for this SPS tank.


A FEW reasons for not using Coral Foods Quite Yet (if Ever) are:

-> Current Goal for these Young Frags is to keep them Healthy and get them to grow.
-> Counting on Fish Waste to feed them along with the additives above to supplement Aminos, Vitamins, and simulants.
-> Don't want to pollute the tank at this early stage. I need a chance to observe the corals, and not have "What if" thoughts if things go bad.

I probably am starting too aggressive with the Additives, so why compound the problem with Foods.


HOW EVER THE BEST REASON IS THIS!!

Last time I over did things, few year back, the tank has a SMALL Cyano Bloom (It eventually went away)



BUT RIGHT AFTERWARD....FEW MONTHS LATER.
It looked like this. (I never recovered from that GHA Bloom. Tank was torn apart and scrubbed).
(Wasn't just the food, it was a Ligthing Design Error with too much RED LIGHTING. Figure that out that afterwards).




That Green Hair Algae Bloom, is the main reason I built a Brand New Sump with a Built-In Algae Scrubber!!

The Scrubber is actually running very nicely.
Reached a certain maturity just this last week. I no longer have to pull out and scrub the screens. Which was a bit of a Chore.
The Algae growth has gone from a thin/slimy GHA type, to a more thicker Spagetti like Macro Algae.
I just cleaned it without removing the screen. Just reached in a pulled out a clump.

Enough said.

Onward!!

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Hey Wally, I wanted to visit March's new shop a few weeks ago when I was in Toronto but I ran out of time. I'm jealous! I would have spent too much as well..
For what it's worth, my pink Cadillac is the most expensive frag in my tank as well..
Looking at your list of things to add and was wondering about the no pro.. do you need it? I guess at one drop a day, it's not a lot..
where are n and p right now?
With your algea growing well, maybe it's not necessary..
Then again, with all the other stuff your are adding, maybe you will..
I'm wondering about adding all those things all at once like that.. it's a 0-60type approach which may still be too aggressive.. maybe not.. you are starting off pretty slow but still..
As for the burnt tips- probably not your system.. I usually cut them off because I find a fresh cut is easier for the recovering acro to grow over than an algea infested tip...


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Matt,

Yes March's new Store is Amazing.
On top of the Spectacular SPS collection, he now carries a full stock of Premium Dry Goods.

You are right about the Additives. I am having 2nd thoughts about any Coloration additives like (Phols Xtra). Let these Corals grow/color naturally. They will be getting everything they need from Twice-A-Week Water changes (50% Premiun Tropic Marin Pro Salt, 50% AquaForest Reef Salt).

I just checked the tank and the few spots of Green Whatever are almost gone. Those two Turbo's are doing a great job. When tank is clean, I will put them in Algae Scrubber for recharging.

Note even though my fingers itch for doing Drops of this and that. This new schedule is holding me back 90% from what I was doing last couple of weeks. You know me.

I will try to cut down even more.
Maybe just stay with the Water Changes for a while and see how things go.

Also I have more time, so am spending time cleaning glass and pumps from any build up.
I do notice since I have the Gyre, and Sea Swirl heads the top of tank (close to intense lighting), they get build up the quickest. So regular cleaning will eliminate the Hot Spots.

I'm pretty excited about the Pink Cadillac. So tiny, but I watch it all day long. It's special.
I also can't avoid looking at the Sunset. Never had something so Yellow and Contrasting in my tank.
The Blue Gomezie is pretty cool too. Read up that it grows very slow.


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I can breathe a bit Easier.

Turbo's are really polishing tank. (Leaving only Spots of Coraline Algae Behind )



Total reversal in just a week!!

I really needed a few snails, since after my rebuild I didn't restore any.

HERE IS PROOF (It was teamwork. Turbo's, Magaritta and Astrea Snail)

https://youtu.be/Wroj0yzsgRA

You tube video is 1 minute Timelapse using Web CAM with Night Vision.
On same area where as Photo Above.



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I have PERFECT Lighting (For these SPS frags) BRS TV Video

Well some luck.

BRS TV just put out a investigative video on Ideal Lighting for Corals (Specifically some SPS details)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62_FdPutmAQ

What is Absolutely Great is their Setup is almost exactly the same as my tank.

Two MH LIghts (250W), and Two T5's (Coral Plus and Blue Plus).
I do have the LED but it's more for accent/off peak our viewing.

What they show with their measurements is almost exactly the same as when I did my Par readings in my tank (shown in post above).

Their recommended PAR Target is around 250-350 PAR. Their measurements show some higher spots nearer the Lights and at the bottom where more reflection on glass occurs. (I didn't know about the lower spots having more reflection near the glass. Reflection Angle makes this happens)

I am running my lights at around 14" for more spread. Their experiement was done at 6 (to not spill light over tank, but I can spill for better even distribution, since my Lights over tank are in Sump Room, behind wall)".

Plus I am currently running my lights at 150W, but can go as high as 250W in the future with a flip of a dial on the Switchable ballast.

So things look very promising, and I need to stay on the low side, till these corals acclimatize and grow up.


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I am making some Small adjustments to my Lighting Schedule after viewing that Video.

I also have slightly changed the Weekly Schedule (Further Cutbacks on Additives, plus one new one I missed AF Build)



Even though there is a reduction overall, it is spread out to give me something to (drop) daily.

Sundays will be maintenance day (ie Algae Scrubber, pumps, Skimmer, etc)


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LIGHTING SCHEDULE (Acclimatization)

Very small adjustments, but here is the lighting schedule for next while.

I found out I had an T5 Actinic bulb, so I replaced it with a Blue Plus.
The other T5 is a Coral Plus.

I actually raised the lights 1/2" inch more for more even spread.
Now Lights are 14" above waterline.



I like to stagger the different bulbs, since it adds variety to all day viewing.
In general the PAR Level RAMPS UP and DOWN.


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