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Unread 09/05/2017, 09:15 PM   #1
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Kole tang sexing?

Just wondering if there is any info on how to sex these guys? I recently added one to my aquarium, and my curiosity has the best of me. Any info would be appreciated.


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Unread 09/06/2017, 04:36 PM   #2
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No way of sexing them.


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Unread 09/06/2017, 07:15 PM   #3
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No way of sexing them.
When I started in this hobby almost 40 years ago that was said about pretty much all reef fish species, with the few exceptions of of those species that have a clear sexual dimorphism (pipefish, seahorses, mandarins, Anthias,...).
Today it can be done for quite a number of fish.

There is definitely at least one way to sex any fish - the one scientists use. The only problem with that method is that the fish isn't alive by the time you know its sex.

Tangs are capable of changing sex according to what I could find in scientific research papers. But I didn't find anything about the trigger mechanism.
The most common trigger among reef fish is the position in the group hirachy. In general the dominant one on the top becomes the male (anemonefish are the exception with the females being the larger and dominant ones in a pair). This could definitely also be how it works for the more social tangs.
Other triggers could be age or size.

In essence, if you really want a pair give it a shot and add another one.

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Thanks for the help. I'm not necessarily wanting a pair or to breed for that matter. I'm mostly just curious. I appreciate the info.


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When I started in this hobby almost 40 years ago that was said about pretty much all reef fish species, with the few exceptions of of those species that have a clear sexual dimorphism (pipefish, seahorses, mandarins, Anthias,...).
Today it can be done for quite a number of fish.

There is definitely at least one way to sex any fish - the one scientists use. The only problem with that method is that the fish isn't alive by the time you know its sex.

Tangs are capable of changing sex according to what I could find in scientific research papers. But I didn't find anything about the trigger mechanism.
The most common trigger among reef fish is the position in the group hirachy. In general the dominant one on the top becomes the male (anemonefish are the exception with the females being the larger and dominant ones in a pair). This could definitely also be how it works for the more social tangs.
Other triggers could be age or size.

In essence, if you really want a pair give it a shot and add another one.

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I wouldn't recommend adding a conspecific tang to any tank... Not a good idea, especially if they aren't introduced simultaneously.

You're right. Many fish can be be sexed nowadays. Tangs are a different story though, at least while they're alive. Only the few species that develop extensions on their tail (male) can be distinguished by the naked eye. Tangs generally only school together when reproducing or to forage. In these situations, I don't believe that there really is any dominance hierarchy because their schools are HUGE! We're talking hundreds if not thousands of fish in one group! It's more that they're cooperating with each other in order to get what they need (food) or to do what needs to be done in order to maintain or increase their population size (reproduce).


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