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Old 11/08/2017, 04:09 PM   #26
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I would try taking it back -- It was made wrong according to the manufacturers sticker.
thats shady. Drilling your tank makes it OUT of warranty.


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Old 11/08/2017, 04:20 PM   #27
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A couple of weeks ago I bought an Aqueon 75 at Petcos' sale and intend to drill the backside. Now I'm scared.

Looked at the tank. The bottom panel has engraving indicating the glass is tempered, the side panels do not. But the there is a sticker on the bottom pane which, among other cautions, says do not drill the "aquarium enclosure". Now, I'm not sure if all the panes are tempered even though the bottom is the only one that says so.

I specifically bought this, and not their reef ready, with the intent to drill it to save space on the overflow. Their website also says only the bottom pane is tempered.

Guess I'll find out.


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Old 11/08/2017, 05:27 PM   #28
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Just saw this on Aqueon website:

"Aqueon Glass Aquariums Tempered vs. Non Tempered: Due to glass availability, Central Aquatics may temporarily substitute regular or non-tempered glass panels with tempered glass panels. Anytime a glass substitution is made, a sticker will be adhered to the aquarium bottom as a precaution to the end user. Please Note: Any aquarium that is altered in any way (i.e. - drilled, attempted to be drilled, the center brace removed) by an individual outside of Central Aquatics, will deem the warranty null and void."

Still not sure whether this means all panes are tempered (mine has the sticker on the bottom and that pane clearly is engraved as tempered).


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Old 11/08/2017, 05:57 PM   #29
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Sent an email to Aqueon for clarification and will also call them tomorrow.

Have a feeling I'm making a trip back to Petco. Good thing there is a 60 day return policy. Will let everyone know what Aqueon says.


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Old 11/08/2017, 06:12 PM   #30
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Both of my 75’s had the same engravings on the bottom panel and the warning sticker. Aqueon will tell you the only true way to tell what is tempered is to test it. I am guessing that I got unlucky on the first tank but who knows how many get shipped out with the sides tempered. I just drew the short straw.


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Old 11/09/2017, 06:32 AM   #31
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Tauri,

Thanks. After I sent the email to Aqueon I saw their response (to test it) on a YouTube video. I am in the process of testing it but looking for a family member with a tablet or cell phone without a tempered screen (mine apparently has a tempered screen so the test doesn't work). My desktop monitor works but can't get that to the tank.


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Old 11/09/2017, 08:21 AM   #32
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All of my cell phones had some kind of tempered screen. I ended up using an old laptop. I also later found out that the iPad does work although I could not get it to go completely dark when doing the polarize test. The main thing is look for the dark lines or some glass has blotches. If you see the dark lines or blotches, you know it's tempered. If you look at the bottom panel, which will most certainly be tempered on a larger tank, you will see what I mean.

Hopefully others can learn from my experiences.


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Old 11/09/2017, 10:01 AM   #33
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Tauri,

Thanks. After I sent the email to Aqueon I saw their response (to test it) on a YouTube video. I am in the process of testing it but looking for a family member with a tablet or cell phone without a tempered screen (mine apparently has a tempered screen so the test doesn't work). My desktop monitor works but can't get that to the tank.
can you share the youtube video link? I may come in handy for some people.


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Old 11/09/2017, 10:31 AM   #34
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Tauri,

Got the response from Aqueon. As expected:

"Hi John,

That sticker means at least one of the panels is tempered. The only way to determine if the panel you’d like to drill is tempered would be to check with a polarized lens. There are some videos on You Tube that will show you how."

Doughboy,

Here are two links. First one you have to watch for a while till the picture shows up:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYW6iGUFnS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3J47iP1KKM


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Old 11/09/2017, 10:17 PM   #35
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Man I have an Aqueon 40B I'm going to drill in the future, making me nervous with all this "we ran out of normal stuff because Petco ordered too many" garbage


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Old 11/10/2017, 07:40 AM   #36
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Man I have an Aqueon 40B I'm going to drill in the future, making me nervous with all this "we ran out of normal stuff because Petco ordered too many" garbage
I also picked up a 40 breeder from Petco to use as a sump. I can tell you that at least on mine, the panels are NOT tempered.


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Old 11/10/2017, 07:50 AM   #37
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Man, you lucky folks on here getting these in the sale, out here the only tanks included in the sale are 10, 20H, 20L, and 29. The 40B, 55, and 75 are only 50% off, rather than dollar per gallon. I was going to grab a 75 to try this, but it's too risky at these prices.


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Old 11/10/2017, 09:10 AM   #38
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Just to close the loop on this, I ran the test. I had already bought a 40B and a 75 from Petco on sale. The "old" Aqueon specs for these said no tempered on the 40B and only the bottom pane on the 75. The 75 I bought had the infamous sticker but it also had an engraving on the bottom pane indicating it was tempered. For comparison, I tested the bottom pane of the 40B against the bottom pane of the 75. The 40B showed totally dark while the 75 showed streaks, thus indicating tempered as expected. This gave me my baseline to test the side panes on the 75. I did not bother testing the rest of the 40B since I'm using this for a sump and won't be drilling it anyway.

Conclusion - side panes on the 75 also tested as tempered, so good thing Petco has a 60 day return policy. Bad thing is I now have to get it lugged out of basement and back to the store.

FWIW, I'm going to respond to Aqueon's previous answer (which I posted above) asking why they can't be more definitive in identifying tempered panes on each tank made when they stray from their typical tank specs. Since the tanks I bought already have all kinds of stickers on them, would it be too much trouble to slap a small sticker (say, with the letter "T") to clearly indicate which panes are tempered (if not all), since apparently the aquarium industry doesn't have to abide by the same regulations as the construction industry with regard to clearly identifying tempered glass (I know this, being a recently retired architect).

Anyway, hope this helps others or at least avoids a catastrophe. I'm just thankful I opened this thread by coincidence.


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