Reef Central Online Community

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > Reef Discussion
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 03/08/2018, 07:13 PM   #1
RioReefr
Registered Member
 
RioReefr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Posts: 249
Can 2-part being diluted and used in ATO Reservoir

I am using Reef Fusion 2-part in my 130 Liter All-in-One (LPS/Fish; No SPS).

I am also using the Smart Micro ATO system with a 10 Liter reserve tank. My evaporation is 2 Liters per day. Since I dose 1mL of Fusion-1 and 1mL of Fusion-2 on a daily basis, I was wondering if I could simply add 5 mL of Fusion-1/ 5mL of Fusion-2 to my reserve tank to essentially let my ATO dose my Ca/Alk for me (??).

1.) Would the combination of the 2 additives in 10 Liter precipitate?
2.) If Yes, what additive (Ca or Alk) would be better to add to my ATO reserve tank?
3.) Also, I add 0.5mL or Red Sea NoPoX on a daily basis. Could this somehow be combined with Reef 1 and/or Reef 2, again something like 2.5mL would be added to the ATO tank?

I am sure someone will suggest a doser, but this is such a small amount that I don't want to drop $300 + on dosing solution.


RioReefr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/08/2018, 07:18 PM   #2
ramseynb
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New Braunfels, TX
Posts: 647
Quote:
Originally Posted by RioReefr View Post
I am using Reef Fusion 2-part in my 130 Liter All-in-One (LPS/Fish; No SPS).

I am also using the Smart Micro ATO system with a 10 Liter reserve tank. My evaporation is 2 Liters per day. Since I dose 1mL of Fusion-1 and 1mL of Fusion-2 on a daily basis, I was wondering if I could simply add 5 mL of Fusion-1/ 5mL of Fusion-2 to my reserve tank to essentially let my ATO dose my Ca/Alk for me (??).

1.) Would the combination of the 2 additives in 10 Liter precipitate?
2.) If Yes, what additive (Ca or Alk) would be better to add to my ATO reserve tank?
3.) Also, I add 0.5mL or Red Sea NoPoX on a daily basis. Could this somehow be combined with Reef 1 and/or Reef 2, again something like 2.5mL would be added to the ATO tank?

I am sure someone will suggest a doser, but this is such a small amount that I don't want to drop $300 + on dosing solution.

Do you actually have enough consumption to need to dose? If your tank is sucking up calcium like that, I would look into just using kalk with your ATO. I don't think mixing the two-part in a small volume of water would be a good idea.


ramseynb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/08/2018, 07:24 PM   #3
RCS82
Registered Member
 
RCS82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Sherwood Park, AB, Canada
Posts: 273
How big is your tank? How much water do you change?


__________________
After about a 16 year break from fish keeping,
Wow, how things have changed.

Current Tank Info: 90g, mixed reef, I hope haha
RCS82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/08/2018, 07:39 PM   #4
Ruu
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Posts: 1,026
In the past, when faced with a tank with either low calcium or alk I have dumped one or the other into my tunze kalk dispenser to help bring things up more smoothly.

If you need both then as others have pointed out, you should probably just use kalk, and if that isn't enough them move to actual dosing.

Dave


Ruu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/08/2018, 07:45 PM   #5
DesertReefT4r
Registered Member
 
DesertReefT4r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Mesa Az
Posts: 758
No you can't mix 2 part at all, it will precipitate. 2 part is pricey imo and is great for high demand tanks as are cal reactors. Kalk is cheap and a great method for dosing cal and alk. Kalk is also the only way to dose both with just 1 solution due to kalks chemical makeup and how it reacts with saltwater. It also further purifies you top off water and has small effect on reducing po4. Google and reseach kalk, what it is and does, how to proper dose it in an ATO. BRS TV has a great YouTube video covering kalk. I used it on a 40g and 75g sps dominated reef tanks with a pretty high demand for cal and alk and kalk kept everything very stable. If your demand is currently very low a very small amount of kalk in ATO water or water changes with a good salt will take care it everything. Test daily and see what your tank is using up to determine any dosing needs and to dial in the amount dosed.


__________________
Tank history 29g tropical ,55g cichlid tank, 20H softy reef, 29g mixed reef, 20H brackish goby & puffer tank, 55g mixed reef, 6g Nanocube softy lps reef, 40B sps reef, 75g sps reef, 75g sps reef in bu

Current Tank Info: 75g sps reef build in the works.
DesertReefT4r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/08/2018, 08:30 PM   #6
OceansMotion
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 22
Technically you can but you need to add a ton of magnesium to bind to the carbonate so it keeps the calcium from reacting with it. With the elevated levels it would not be worth it because of the fact you would overdose very quickly. You could try limewater or soda ash for alk. But you would have to dose the calcium separate. Calcium reactor is the best for both


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


OceansMotion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/08/2018, 09:51 PM   #7
bif24701
Registered Member
 
bif24701's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Florida, FWB
Posts: 3,428
Use Kalk.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


__________________
180 Mixed Reef
SRO-5000 Skimmer
Neptune APEX Gold
Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105
Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge

Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant
bif24701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:13 AM.


TapaTalk Enabled

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2018 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright 1999-2014
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.