Two more Clam IDs.

James Yeung · 12/08/2003, 05:36 PM

I have two more pics! The previous owner had them for more than a year 1 1/2 years and the big one got even bigger! The smaller one didn't grow much but appear to be very healthy. :-)

Thanks experts!

James

James Yeung · 12/08/2003, 05:37 PM

Here's the small one:

Whisperer · 12/08/2003, 05:48 PM

The first pic is a squamosa and the second one looks like a gold maxima.

mantisshrimp · 12/08/2003, 05:54 PM

second is a crocea.

Whisperer · 12/08/2003, 06:07 PM

That was my first thought but the mantle pattern looks more like a gold max pattern than a crocea. You may be right. Uhm, James, can you take pic of the shell of the second clam? Thanks

hwynboy · 12/08/2003, 06:25 PM

without a better pic I would say Squamosa and Maxima

Dustin · 12/08/2003, 07:31 PM

Squamosa, crocea.

James Yeung · 12/08/2003, 07:34 PM

Thanks all!

It looks like the small clam is a crocea.

The shell is covered in algae... It's hard to see, but the shell is identical to the T. Crocea I have.

I want to move this little clam in the middle, but it glued itself to the glass bottom pretty well. I take it the clam likes it there, so I won't disturb it.

Does anyone have any shell pics of a Maxima?

James

fishforlife · 12/09/2003, 12:40 AM

Here is a shell view of a Maxima

You can see the shape is a bit skewed to one side.

manderx · 12/09/2003, 11:12 AM

for me, the key to telling the small one is a crocea is not the shell or the color, but the shape of the mantle. look at a bunch and you'll see what i mean.

Real Reefs · 12/09/2003, 11:19 AM

I think the second one is a maxima based on the color and shape of the mantle. But a closer pic of the shell will help with confirmation.

mantisshrimp · 12/11/2003, 06:40 PM

Yeah,I can always tell a clam by the mantle shape.

Dustin · 12/11/2003, 06:57 PM

What kind of clam is this?

Its a large picture, 220k be patient

Real Reefs · 12/11/2003, 07:02 PM

A guess at best would be that they are squamosa's. A picture of the shell as well will provide a lot more information in the determination.

James Yeung · 12/11/2003, 07:07 PM

Dustin: Nice looking clams.

Newbie question... How do you post an image that shows up automatically (no clicking required?). I can upload my own pictures to my provider.

Thanks,

James

Dustin · 12/11/2003, 07:33 PM

A picture of the shell (which I dont have) would only make it harder! Those clams are hybrids. Squamosa x Maxima

It can be tricky identifying clams from the mantle or the shell, since they hybridize quite readily.

NIXONNOXIN · 12/13/2003, 12:46 AM

Dustin's right, clams do hybridize easily. Telling a Crocea from a Maxima via the shell is not a good idea. Look at the hydial sensor arrangements, the eyes - little bumps on the mantle.

James' small clam is a hybrid between a Crocea and Maxima. It exhibit hydial sensors in both a linear line around the periphery (Maxima) AND has them randomly distributed across the mantle (Crocea).

12/08/2003, 05:36 PM	#1
James Yeung Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 595	Two more Clam IDs. I have two more pics! The previous owner had them for more than a year 1 1/2 years and the big one got even bigger! The smaller one didn't grow much but appear to be very healthy. :-) Thanks experts! James

12/08/2003, 05:48 PM	#3
Whisperer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Gorda, FL Posts: 3,885	The first pic is a squamosa and the second one looks like a gold maxima. __________________ The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. --------- No one is born with intellect and age guarantees wisdom to no one. Current Tank Info: 120G reef, 30G sump, 10G QT tank

12/08/2003, 05:54 PM	#4
mantisshrimp Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 622	second is a crocea. __________________ 20 gallon nano.

12/08/2003, 06:07 PM	#5
Whisperer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Gorda, FL Posts: 3,885	That was my first thought but the mantle pattern looks more like a gold max pattern than a crocea. You may be right. Uhm, James, can you take pic of the shell of the second clam? Thanks __________________ The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. --------- No one is born with intellect and age guarantees wisdom to no one. Current Tank Info: 120G reef, 30G sump, 10G QT tank

12/08/2003, 06:25 PM	#6
hwynboy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 2,481	without a better pic I would say Squamosa and Maxima __________________ Malama Pono Ua mau ke'ea o'ka aina i ka pono "He who has large reef tank has small wallet" Current Tank Info: 300gal starphire tank, Deltec Kalkreactor, MRC2 skimmer, MRC dual Calcium reactor, 2 Tunze Stream 6100's w/multi-cntrlr, 5 MH 400x20000K , 2-110w VHOs..30 gal clown tank, 120 FOWLR, 35 gal sump, Euroreef CS8-3 skimmer, 4-96watt actinics

12/08/2003, 05:37 PM	#2
James Yeung Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 595	Here's the small one:

12/08/2003, 07:31 PM	#7
Dustin Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 528	Squamosa, crocea. __________________ Dustin Dorton Oceans, Reefs & Aquariums

12/08/2003, 07:34 PM	#8
James Yeung Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 595	Thanks all! It looks like the small clam is a crocea. The shell is covered in algae... It's hard to see, but the shell is identical to the T. Crocea I have. I want to move this little clam in the middle, but it glued itself to the glass bottom pretty well. I take it the clam likes it there, so I won't disturb it. Does anyone have any shell pics of a Maxima? James

12/09/2003, 12:40 AM	#9
fishforlife Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CA Posts: 38	Here is a shell view of a Maxima You can see the shape is a bit skewed to one side.

12/09/2003, 11:12 AM	#10
manderx Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 4,807	for me, the key to telling the small one is a crocea is not the shell or the color, but the shape of the mantle. look at a bunch and you'll see what i mean.

12/09/2003, 11:19 AM	#11
Real Reefs Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auburn, Al Posts: 337	I think the second one is a maxima based on the color and shape of the mantle. But a closer pic of the shell will help with confirmation.

12/11/2003, 06:40 PM	#12
mantisshrimp Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 622	Yeah,I can always tell a clam by the mantle shape. __________________ 20 gallon nano.

12/11/2003, 06:57 PM	#13
Dustin Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 528	What kind of clam is this? Its a large picture, 220k be patient __________________ Dustin Dorton Oceans, Reefs & Aquariums

12/11/2003, 07:02 PM	#14
Real Reefs Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auburn, Al Posts: 337	A guess at best would be that they are squamosa's. A picture of the shell as well will provide a lot more information in the determination.

12/11/2003, 07:07 PM	#15
James Yeung Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 595	Dustin: Nice looking clams. Newbie question... How do you post an image that shows up automatically (no clicking required?). I can upload my own pictures to my provider. Thanks, James

12/11/2003, 07:33 PM	#16
Dustin Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 528	A picture of the shell (which I dont have) would only make it harder! Those clams are hybrids. Squamosa x Maxima It can be tricky identifying clams from the mantle or the shell, since they hybridize quite readily. __________________ Dustin Dorton Oceans, Reefs & Aquariums

12/13/2003, 12:46 AM	#17
NIXONNOXIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 353	Dustin's right, clams do hybridize easily. Telling a Crocea from a Maxima via the shell is not a good idea. Look at the hydial sensor arrangements, the eyes - little bumps on the mantle. James' small clam is a hybrid between a Crocea and Maxima. It exhibit hydial sensors in both a linear line around the periphery (Maxima) AND has them randomly distributed across the mantle (Crocea).