skimmerless lps displays

danieljames · 02/08/2006, 11:45 PM

Have any of you lps people run a skimmerless display long term? Any pics/info appreciated.

Julio · 02/09/2006, 04:12 PM

I did for a while with no fish though and a refugium. But is more of a hassle without a skimmer. There is however some new bacteria on the market that is being teseted on some reef tanks without a skimmer. Is called the right now bacteria, do a search on RC there was a big discussion about it not too long ago. .

Opcn · 02/10/2006, 07:47 PM

skimmers pull out phyto, zoo plankton eat phyto, lps eat zooplankton

Julio · 02/10/2006, 09:44 PM

yes, but if you have fish then you are talking about a big messy tank with all the waste and ammonia they will produce.

LDClawson · 02/12/2006, 06:48 PM

My 29 gallon is skimmerless and I have 4 fish. My live rock is very high quality with lots of seaweed and other stuff. I do a water change once a month and have a Cascade 700 canister filter. Everything is going smoothly! Here is what is looks like:

ColleeninFL · 02/12/2006, 08:15 PM

We are skimmerless. The 92 bow has a refugium and the 90 straight has only itself to rely on. The straight 90 - the lps dominated tank seem to be very happy and the handful of sps haven't uttered a complaint. There are only three fish, two percs and a benny the blenny and a small cleanup crew, if you can call them a crew, an emerald, some snails and a mated pair of boxer shrimp. Humph to the clean up crew that prefers to eat anything but the leftovers.

The 40 gal refugium was an add on to the bow to house a cholate chip star fish that was homeless. It is just beautiful, a show tank in its own right, a step away into the grasslands, lush and crystal clear. No skimmer there.

The nano (5 gal) wanna be seems pleased with a perc a rock and a tidbit of this and that.

The 20 gal trash tank, just a tank to let things sit and wonder where they will wind up .....filterless, to say the least, exists with zip on filteration, let alone a skimmer.

When I get back to the home turf I will certainly take a few pics of all to reveal how well things are without the highly praised skimmers. It seems odd that we would want to remove phyto only to add it back in later from an lfs.

Now with that said, what works for one does not necessarily work for another.

Also, nice shot of the tank!

danieljames · 02/12/2006, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ColleeninFL
It is just beautiful, a show tank in its own right, a step away into the grasslands, lush and crystal clear.

Very cool description Colleen. Would love to see the pics.

How old is your display clawson?

sinned · 02/13/2006, 10:06 AM

I have a 50g lps dominated skimmerless,sumpless, reactorless - going
on 6 years...... Dennis (fish2223)

Orochimaru · 02/13/2006, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fish2223
I have a 50g lps dominated skimmerless,sumpless, reactorless - going
on 6 years...... Dennis (fish2223)

how is this possible? Show me that way! lots of water change?

danieljames · 02/13/2006, 11:52 AM

Very nice display dennis. Could you give me the sand depth/grain size on your system? Has it been consistent for the entire 6 years?

sinned · 02/13/2006, 07:28 PM

Sandbed is Caribsea arganite about 2".....Dennis

Zoalander · 02/13/2006, 08:07 PM

Here is my 42 hex, I had a Aqua C remora on it for a few months then I just took it off for lack of performance. All I use for filteration is carbon and HOB fuge, no sump, 3 MJ 1200's. I just reaquascaped it a couple days ago and I'm still not done so excuse the mess. As livestock goes I have a Mandarin Goby who is 1 year old, a 6 months green clown goby. I did just trade away a tiny Blue Hep Tang. Tank is 14 months old.

spsboy · 02/13/2006, 08:49 PM

Hey dennis,
Are those Blasto Merletti on the right of the tank?
Drew

sinned · 02/13/2006, 09:54 PM

Yes those are merlettis - they have grown about 100%
in 5 years. Dennis

spsboy · 02/13/2006, 10:04 PM

There really nice,
How big are each of the heads?
drew

heuerfan · 02/14/2006, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tetra
how is this possible? Show me that way! lots of water change?

I know how, no fish

sinned · 02/14/2006, 08:38 PM

Actually I have several fishies..... purple tang, pair of percula clowns,
red-headed and hectori gobies.... Dennis (fish2223)

JenDub · 02/14/2006, 08:40 PM

Dennis-what is your care regiment like? Those are some happy corals!!!

sinned · 02/14/2006, 08:51 PM

Charles and others-
Here's a brief description of tank and regiment:

My tank is a 50 g by Leemar, sapphire glass, euro-braced (36 X 15 X 18) ....skimmerless, reactorless and sumpless. 175MH 20K, w/2 T-5 actinic 65w.....
Feed 5-6 times a week with homemade receipe, consisting of shrimp, Golden Pearls,
mysis shrimp, nori, Formula 1 + 2, etc. Dosing weekly with 5mm (capful) of
calcium, strontium, iodine, and magnesium. I do a 5-10% water change
w/(ready-made Catalina Salt) every 6 weeks or so and topoff with vending machine ro/di water.

Dennis (fish2223)

Mr. Ugly · 02/15/2006, 09:38 AM

fish2223,

Absolutely gorgeous reef. Impressively simple setup.

Congrats!

fishface3 · 02/15/2006, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fish2223
I have a 50g lps dominated skimmerless,sumpless, reactorless - going
on 6 years...... Dennis (fish2223)

Can someone say Tank Of The Month ?

just awsome !

02/08/2006, 11:45 PM	#1
danieljames Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bellevue, TN Posts: 2,450	skimmerless lps displays Have any of you lps people run a skimmerless display long term? Any pics/info appreciated. __________________ "Humble pie....mmm mmm good"

02/09/2006, 04:12 PM	#2
Julio Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New york Posts: 8,090	I did for a while with no fish though and a refugium. But is more of a hassle without a skimmer. There is however some new bacteria on the market that is being teseted on some reef tanks without a skimmer. Is called the right now bacteria, do a search on RC there was a big discussion about it not too long ago. . __________________ Thanks, Have a nice day. Julio Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef w/ 250 watt SE XM10Ks and AP1003, 12 gallon reef, 40 gallon reef

02/10/2006, 07:47 PM	#3
Opcn Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 559	skimmers pull out phyto, zoo plankton eat phyto, lps eat zooplankton __________________ If an animal really needs to be rescued don't buy it, steal it. Current Tank Info: 24 gallon aquapod

02/10/2006, 09:44 PM	#4
Julio Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New york Posts: 8,090	yes, but if you have fish then you are talking about a big messy tank with all the waste and ammonia they will produce. __________________ Thanks, Have a nice day. Julio Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef w/ 250 watt SE XM10Ks and AP1003, 12 gallon reef, 40 gallon reef

02/12/2006, 08:15 PM	#6
ColleeninFL Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ft Pierce, FL Posts: 49	We are skimmerless. The 92 bow has a refugium and the 90 straight has only itself to rely on. The straight 90 - the lps dominated tank seem to be very happy and the handful of sps haven't uttered a complaint. There are only three fish, two percs and a benny the blenny and a small cleanup crew, if you can call them a crew, an emerald, some snails and a mated pair of boxer shrimp. Humph to the clean up crew that prefers to eat anything but the leftovers. The 40 gal refugium was an add on to the bow to house a cholate chip star fish that was homeless. It is just beautiful, a show tank in its own right, a step away into the grasslands, lush and crystal clear. No skimmer there. The nano (5 gal) wanna be seems pleased with a perc a rock and a tidbit of this and that. The 20 gal trash tank, just a tank to let things sit and wonder where they will wind up .....filterless, to say the least, exists with zip on filteration, let alone a skimmer. When I get back to the home turf I will certainly take a few pics of all to reveal how well things are without the highly praised skimmers. It seems odd that we would want to remove phyto only to add it back in later from an lfs. Now with that said, what works for one does not necessarily work for another. Also, nice shot of the tank! __________________ If you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there. Current Tank Info: 1-90, 1-92 cor/bow, 1- 29 gallon reef tanks and 1 45gal fuge tank for Chip and friends and one mini hex for Mr Ick

02/12/2006, 06:48 PM	#5
LDClawson Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 35	My 29 gallon is skimmerless and I have 4 fish. My live rock is very high quality with lots of seaweed and other stuff. I do a water change once a month and have a Cascade 700 canister filter. Everything is going smoothly! Here is what is looks like:

02/13/2006, 10:06 AM	#8
sinned Moved On Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: West Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,867	I have a 50g lps dominated skimmerless,sumpless, reactorless - going on 6 years...... Dennis (fish2223)

02/13/2006, 11:52 AM	#10
danieljames Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bellevue, TN Posts: 2,450	Very nice display dennis. Could you give me the sand depth/grain size on your system? Has it been consistent for the entire 6 years? __________________ "Humble pie....mmm mmm good"

02/13/2006, 07:28 PM	#11
sinned Moved On Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: West Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,867	Sandbed is Caribsea arganite about 2".....Dennis

02/13/2006, 08:07 PM	#12
Zoalander Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oak Park Illinois Posts: 1,576	Here is my 42 hex, I had a Aqua C remora on it for a few months then I just took it off for lack of performance. All I use for filteration is carbon and HOB fuge, no sump, 3 MJ 1200's. I just reaquascaped it a couple days ago and I'm still not done so excuse the mess. As livestock goes I have a Mandarin Goby who is 1 year old, a 6 months green clown goby. I did just trade away a tiny Blue Hep Tang. Tank is 14 months old. __________________ Previously known as Vetter1980 Current Tank Info: 36x36x10 frag tank

02/13/2006, 08:49 PM	#13
spsboy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: North Texas Posts: 442	Hey dennis, Are those Blasto Merletti on the right of the tank? Drew

02/13/2006, 09:54 PM	#14
sinned Moved On Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: West Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,867	Yes those are merlettis - they have grown about 100% in 5 years. Dennis

02/13/2006, 10:04 PM	#15
spsboy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: North Texas Posts: 442	There really nice, How big are each of the heads? drew

02/14/2006, 08:38 PM	#17
sinned Moved On Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: West Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,867	Actually I have several fishies..... purple tang, pair of percula clowns, red-headed and hectori gobies.... Dennis (fish2223)

02/14/2006, 08:40 PM	#18
JenDub Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 2,823	Dennis-what is your care regiment like? Those are some happy corals!!! __________________ Jen & Charles; Reefing's Dynamic Duo =) Got a Propagation Question? Feel Free to Ask/PM/Email! Current Tank Info: 700g Coral Propagation System & 120g LPS Display

02/14/2006, 08:51 PM	#19
sinned Moved On Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: West Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,867	Charles and others- Here's a brief description of tank and regiment: My tank is a 50 g by Leemar, sapphire glass, euro-braced (36 X 15 X 18) ....skimmerless, reactorless and sumpless. 175MH 20K, w/2 T-5 actinic 65w..... Feed 5-6 times a week with homemade receipe, consisting of shrimp, Golden Pearls, mysis shrimp, nori, Formula 1 + 2, etc. Dosing weekly with 5mm (capful) of calcium, strontium, iodine, and magnesium. I do a 5-10% water change w/(ready-made Catalina Salt) every 6 weeks or so and topoff with vending machine ro/di water. Dennis (fish2223) Last edited by sinned; 02/14/2006 at 09:05 PM.

02/15/2006, 09:38 AM	#20
Mr. Ugly Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,181	fish2223, Absolutely gorgeous reef. Impressively simple setup. Congrats!