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Old 03/01/2006, 05:50 PM   #1
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whats your favorite type of "garbage can" for storing water?

ive got my temp 29g up, and id like to be more efficient with water changes.

are there any particular container/garbage cans that are good for stashing away batches of saltwater or ro?

any to stay away from?

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Old 03/01/2006, 05:53 PM   #2
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Rubbermaid BRUTE trash cans are pretty much the only ones people use, they are food safe and not known to leach any harmful compounds.


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Old 03/01/2006, 06:22 PM   #3
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I will second that about the brutes


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Old 03/01/2006, 06:29 PM   #4
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rubbermaid ,i don't trust anything else


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Old 03/01/2006, 06:30 PM   #5
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Whats wrong with the Rubbermaid 32gal round cans sold at Walmart for $13 and HD for $12? I bought one, fill it with water and let it sit over night. Then I punched the hell out of the sides with my fist, trying to make it burst. Held up just fine. Brutes are $25 for the 32gal and $38 for the 44gal at HD.


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Old 03/01/2006, 06:32 PM   #6
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You can also get a dolly that fits the bottom of the Brute containers.


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Old 03/01/2006, 07:09 PM   #7
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i got the rubbermaid 32gal ones as well for 11.XX...they are just fine IMO


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Old 03/01/2006, 07:17 PM   #8
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good info, the dolly's easily available from the same places as the brute?


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Old 03/01/2006, 07:18 PM   #9
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i just found both on homedepot.com

the brute is 25, the dolly 35, ouch

anyone get these cheaper?


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Old 03/01/2006, 07:21 PM   #10
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Thats about as cheap as they come...thats why I went with the Rubbermaid.


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Old 03/01/2006, 07:21 PM   #11
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I have 3 of these

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=549924


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Old 03/01/2006, 07:29 PM   #12
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hey pyrrhus,

where did you get the info that the brutes are the only food safe container. from what i have found, they are industrial/commercial grade cans made for janitorial purposes.

it would be odd that a container made specifially geared for garbage collection would be the only one that can hold food, no?

i wonder if a tds meter would be able to pick up anything leached into any given container. that is, if the container would leach anything within a day or two.

love the dolly though, just waaaayyyyy too overpriced. think ill try and make a dolly on my own


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Old 03/01/2006, 08:33 PM   #13
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Just a reminder....make sure any wheels or dollys can handle the weight of 30 gallons of saltwater! A good estimate would be 30gal x 8lb/gallon = 240 pounds!

Would really be hating life if your wheels gave out in the middle of your living room and spilt 30 gallons of water!

I found a old used fish tank, added a auto shut off from my RO and threw a power head and heater in it. Placed it in a corner of my garage and now I always have 50 gallons of mature saltwater.

I use the cheaper rubbermaid trash cans, marked for 10 gallons.
Fill from my water station then I roll it on a furniture dolly.

Just my .02$

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Old 03/01/2006, 08:39 PM   #14
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i use the red ACE 32gal trashcans, red lets me see when it gets algae in it and is time to clean

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Old 03/02/2006, 08:27 AM   #15
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I use the brute 44 gallon with the dolly and it rolls just fine when it's filled up with salt water. (It rolls very easily on the tile floor but requires some effort on carpet.) I winced a little bit at the price but I am glas that I bought it now - it makes big water changes a breeze.


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Old 03/02/2006, 09:18 AM   #16
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55 GAL food grade drum from Yoshida's, 600 GPH pump for circulation, and 50 foot of thick wall tubing to get to every tank in the house. makes water changes so much easier. powerhead and hose for water out of tank, then 600 gph pump puts fresh saltwater back in.


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Old 03/02/2006, 09:29 AM   #17
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I use the rubbermade cans, but built small boxes for them to sit on at a height to get a 5 gallon bucket underneigth. Then I installed basic ball valves towards the bottom so as to make water changes easier. I fill the can with r/o water, add salt, drop in a powerhead to mix and in a couple days your'e ready to go. Hopefully the picture will help explain.


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Old 03/02/2006, 09:56 AM   #18
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Yes most colors of the Brutes are food grade. The RubberMaid site says that "Gray, White and Yellow are USDA Meat & Poultry Equipment Group Listed"

http://www.rcpworksmarter.com/rcp/pr...75&rcpNum=2609

Not sure if the others kinds leach harmful chemicals or not, but I played it safe.

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Old 03/02/2006, 10:40 AM   #19
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i use normal rubbermaid got the 45 gallon ones have wheels and are square ncie for bulkheads.. i wanted 55 gallon drums but they are lie 60 bucks everyplace by me. the ones i got are 22 at HD... should work good. i have a 32 i have used for years no harm from it.. i think most all rubbermaids are safe


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I've heard that the other types (non Brute) are made from other plastics and have the potential to leach things into the water. Especially if you are mixing salt water in them. Heard this a long time ago and have always just played it safe with the Rubbermaid Brutes as mentioned they are food grade, while yes they are "trash cans" they are also used in restaurants in food preparation. they also come in many more sizes and shapes besides the 44 and 32 gallon sizes. Check out your local restaurant supply store.


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leach "things" onto the water. What are "things"?


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Old 03/02/2006, 02:42 PM   #22
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"things" = chemicals, solvents and the like.

think of those rinky dink lfs stores that keep their saltwater tanks decorated with colored substrate made for freshwater. in either case, many will bleed into the water, which can be for more toxic for the saltwater fauna than the fresh.

wow, talk about irony. cans made for janitorial purposes are the only ones that are food safe. gotta love those geniuses at rubbermaid


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leach "things" onto the water. What are "things"?
chemicals in the plastic or used in making the containers.


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I just switched to two 96 gallon garbage cans donated to me by the city. Check my gallery.


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Old 03/02/2006, 08:22 PM   #25
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so is your neighbor going to be able to throw his trash out tomorrow.

just kidding looks like a good fit and built in lid and wheels to boot!


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