dead tangs

slb11106 · 03/10/2006, 09:18 AM

i dont understand,
i got a sailfin a month or so ago, it lived about a week or so, eating fine active then lost color and died

almost two weeks ago i got a PBT and it died this morning, it was also eating fine very active and colorfull. it had a horizontal line on his body (i thought it was just not eating enough) well it died and i dont know why

i have eight other fish 4 shrimp, 2 crabs, 4 corals (soft) all perameters are great...(nitrates 0 ,nitirtes 0, amonia 0, cal 400, ph 8.2, kh 12)and they all have been in there a while and they are perfect ! just seems to be the tangs, anyone know what the *#$% is going on with them ?:cry1:

this is very disturbing to me, might it be that they were doomed from the start ?maybe cyanide collecting or something.

hyperboy · 03/10/2006, 10:55 AM

whichever LFS you got them from should be able to tell you where the fish came from, that will be a better clue to how they were handled

dmbedard · 03/10/2006, 11:43 AM

I am very sorry for your loss.

slb11106 · 03/10/2006, 12:09 PM

thanks, just wondering if i am doing something wrong.....

Warnberg · 03/10/2006, 12:22 PM

Tangs are very suseptible to ICH, they will get it in the gills and suffocate if not treated, this is not always the case but it could be a factor. Tangs also have a tendancy to get stressed easily, it takes them some time to acclimate to there new home this is one of the reasons they are so suseptable to ICH.

Did you get both tangs from the same fish store? Also as mentioned above where did they come from before that?

When you say they where eating... what where they eating? Are you feeding them any greens (spinich leaves, nori, etc)?

BillyFSU · 03/10/2006, 12:54 PM

What are the other kinds of fish that you currently have? Tangs also have very high oxygen demands and may be the only ones showing the effects if your oxygen levels are low (like in a closed, high temperature system). Something else to check in addition to what others suggested above.

reefrubble · 03/12/2006, 08:52 AM

How often do you do water changes,and how much do you change ? Ted

tangwang · 03/12/2006, 09:16 AM

Where did the fish come from?

slb11106 · 03/14/2006, 07:43 AM

the fist sailfin came from marine warehouse on hillsborough rd, the second pbt came from a place on waters near dale mabry, i forget the name (actually it was the first time i purchased from there....and the last, but i bought the pbt for 30.00 which was very cheap, and now i know why.

Holmie_D_Klown · 03/14/2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by BillyFSU
What are the other kinds of fish that you currently have? Tangs also have very high oxygen demands and may be the only ones showing the effects if your oxygen levels are low (like in a closed, high temperature system). Something else to check in addition to what others suggested above.

I kind of agree that low O2 levels may have caused their death. Tangs are usually the first ones to go, and sometimes the only ones. However, I would expect your pH levels to be a little lower since CO2 accumulation would drop the pH. Unless, you've been dosing a lot of buffer recently. If that's the problem, an easy solution is to point one of your powerheads upwards to stir up the surface. Some people also get a fan running over the surface of the tank.

slb11106 · 03/16/2006, 09:34 AM

thanks, i will do that.

03/10/2006, 09:18 AM	#1
slb11106 Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: tampa fl Posts: 92	dead tangs i dont understand, i got a sailfin a month or so ago, it lived about a week or so, eating fine active then lost color and died almost two weeks ago i got a PBT and it died this morning, it was also eating fine very active and colorfull. it had a horizontal line on his body (i thought it was just not eating enough) well it died and i dont know why i have eight other fish 4 shrimp, 2 crabs, 4 corals (soft) all perameters are great...(nitrates 0 ,nitirtes 0, amonia 0, cal 400, ph 8.2, kh 12)and they all have been in there a while and they are perfect ! just seems to be the tangs, anyone know what the *#$% is going on with them ?:cry1: this is very disturbing to me, might it be that they were doomed from the start ?maybe cyanide collecting or something.

03/10/2006, 10:55 AM	#2
hyperboy Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dade City, Florida Posts: 780	whichever LFS you got them from should be able to tell you where the fish came from, that will be a better clue to how they were handled __________________ Jonathan Foster FishEye Aquaculture

03/10/2006, 11:43 AM	#3
dmbedard Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Brooksville, FL Posts: 1,134	I am very sorry for your loss. __________________ Peace, love, joy... Current Tank Info: 180 gal w/a yellow tang, a foxface, 5 green chromi, atlantic hawkfish, and 2 clownfish w/ xenia, pink clove polyps & lots of love

03/12/2006, 08:52 AM	#7
reefrubble Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Weeki Wachee Fl. Posts: 5,698	How often do you do water changes,and how much do you change ? Ted __________________ Ted Proud member of SHARK (Spring Hill Area Reef Keepers ) Proud member of TBRC (Tampa Bay Reef Club ) Save the reefs , Grow your own Current Tank Info: Marineland 300 DD Tank Custom metal stand , and canopy DIY LED lighting I-Tech Super Beast skimmer .

03/12/2006, 09:16 AM	#8
tangwang Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,486	Where did the fish come from? __________________ You can knock at any door, but wherever you go you know they've been there before........ Current Tank Info: No current tanks..

03/10/2006, 12:09 PM	#4
slb11106 Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: tampa fl Posts: 92	thanks, just wondering if i am doing something wrong.....

03/10/2006, 12:22 PM	#5
Warnberg Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,366	Tangs are very suseptible to ICH, they will get it in the gills and suffocate if not treated, this is not always the case but it could be a factor. Tangs also have a tendancy to get stressed easily, it takes them some time to acclimate to there new home this is one of the reasons they are so suseptable to ICH. Did you get both tangs from the same fish store? Also as mentioned above where did they come from before that? When you say they where eating... what where they eating? Are you feeding them any greens (spinich leaves, nori, etc)?

03/10/2006, 12:54 PM	#6
BillyFSU Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tampa Posts: 514	What are the other kinds of fish that you currently have? Tangs also have very high oxygen demands and may be the only ones showing the effects if your oxygen levels are low (like in a closed, high temperature system). Something else to check in addition to what others suggested above.

03/14/2006, 07:43 AM	#9
slb11106 Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: tampa fl Posts: 92	the fist sailfin came from marine warehouse on hillsborough rd, the second pbt came from a place on waters near dale mabry, i forget the name (actually it was the first time i purchased from there....and the last, but i bought the pbt for 30.00 which was very cheap, and now i know why.

03/16/2006, 09:34 AM	#11
slb11106 Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: tampa fl Posts: 92	thanks, i will do that.