euphylia not extending

magdelan · 10/29/2006, 11:00 PM

My Frogspawn and my Torch have not been fully extended in almost a week.

nitrates-1
Ph-8.2
Po4-0
Alk-2.8
Ca-400
SG-1.023
temp-80

Any ideas would be more than welcomed!!!

Sk8r · 10/29/2006, 11:03 PM

Your salinity could come up .002 and try to get rid of the nitrate altogether. Outside of that, it looks good, but that salt level is below coral range by .001. I run it at 1.025 so I have a .001 swing either way in case of accident, 1.026 being the upper limit.

magdelan · 10/29/2006, 11:36 PM

That's very interesting. I will raise my salt slowly and post how it turns out.. Thank you!!

musty baby · 10/30/2006, 12:45 AM

I don't think your specific gravity is the culprit, personally. How do you measure it, though? I had a swing hydrometer that was off by .006 once (my SG was at 1.031 and everything still looked fine, imagine my surprise)

Has anything else changed in the system?

No offense intended sk8r, I just know that in the past all of my corals have been very forgiving of SG and I would like to know more!

The_Taz_Devil · 10/30/2006, 03:28 AM

What kind of flow/lighting area do you have them in ?

magdelan · 10/30/2006, 11:46 AM

I just bought a new "Coralife Deep Six" hydrometer. I have two Maxi Jet 600's in opposite upper back corners of the tank.
For lighting I have 2x96w actinics and and 1x150mh 15k. The actinics go on at 12pm and 1pm then the mh at 1:30pm. The mh goes off at 12am, the first actinic at 12:30am and the last at 1:30am.

I have brought the SG up to 1.025.

nmprisons · 10/30/2006, 02:12 PM

Magnesium is really important for these corals. what is your magnesium level?

Thhitman · 10/30/2006, 03:22 PM

As far as your salinity goes, that will not cause any problems.

I recently did have a outbreak of flatworms (bought corals from a individual, didn't quarantine them) and the way I noticed the worms were my frogspawns and hammers were not extending like normal. Little brown spots, very easy to miss if you were not careful.

Not saying thats what it is, but something to check.

magdelan · 10/30/2006, 03:44 PM

I have fully examined them for bugs and worms. I don't know what my magnesium is...I don't have a test for it. I add b-ionic and the Alk component usually makes a bit of snow in the tank if that gives you any indication. Does one want the Mag higher or lower?

Sk8r · 10/30/2006, 04:15 PM

Magnesium should be about 3x the calcium reading.

magdelan · 10/30/2006, 05:53 PM

Now my zoos and my anthellia are not open. I'm getting VERY concerned!!!! Please Help!!!!

10/29/2006, 11:00 PM	#1
magdelan Fish? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gananda, NY Posts: 3,646	euphylia not extending My Frogspawn and my Torch have not been fully extended in almost a week. nitrates-1 Ph-8.2 Po4-0 Alk-2.8 Ca-400 SG-1.023 temp-80 Any ideas would be more than welcomed!!! __________________ "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent, used to build monuments of nothingness. Those who specialize in them, are seldom capable of anything else."

10/29/2006, 11:03 PM	#2
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 23,198 Blog Entries: 54	Your salinity could come up .002 and try to get rid of the nitrate altogether. Outside of that, it looks good, but that salt level is below coral range by .001. I run it at 1.025 so I have a .001 swing either way in case of accident, 1.026 being the upper limit. __________________ Sk8r "Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale, not meq/l; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp abt 80, nitrate/ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal will not rise if mg is low. Alk reading far more imp't than PH; WATER QUALITY MATTERS!" "If anything CAN go wrong, it will, and at the worst possible moment."---St. Murphy. "For beginners---nothing good happens fast on an ice rink or in a fish tank." Current Tank Info: 105g, kalk, 250mh 10000; AquaCEV120; Iwaki 100, bsemnt sump/fuge; hermits, snails, mandy, scooter, blue chromis, azure damsel, starry & tailspot blennies, firefish, royal gramma, redstripe goby, YWG pair, lps;

10/29/2006, 11:36 PM	#3
magdelan Fish? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gananda, NY Posts: 3,646	That's very interesting. I will raise my salt slowly and post how it turns out.. Thank you!! __________________ "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent, used to build monuments of nothingness. Those who specialize in them, are seldom capable of anything else."

10/30/2006, 12:45 AM	#4
musty baby Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: over yonder Posts: 1,751	I don't think your specific gravity is the culprit, personally. How do you measure it, though? I had a swing hydrometer that was off by .006 once (my SG was at 1.031 and everything still looked fine, imagine my surprise) Has anything else changed in the system? No offense intended sk8r, I just know that in the past all of my corals have been very forgiving of SG and I would like to know more! Last edited by musty baby; 10/30/2006 at 12:55 AM.

10/30/2006, 03:28 AM	#5
The_Taz_Devil Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newport, South Wales, UK Posts: 219	What kind of flow/lighting area do you have them in ? __________________ Scotland the Brave Current Tank Info: 170g with 30g sump.

10/30/2006, 11:46 AM	#6
magdelan Fish? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gananda, NY Posts: 3,646	I just bought a new "Coralife Deep Six" hydrometer. I have two Maxi Jet 600's in opposite upper back corners of the tank. For lighting I have 2x96w actinics and and 1x150mh 15k. The actinics go on at 12pm and 1pm then the mh at 1:30pm. The mh goes off at 12am, the first actinic at 12:30am and the last at 1:30am. I have brought the SG up to 1.025. __________________ "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent, used to build monuments of nothingness. Those who specialize in them, are seldom capable of anything else."

10/30/2006, 02:12 PM	#7
nmprisons Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,520	Magnesium is really important for these corals. what is your magnesium level? __________________ 25gallon tank up and cycling since 7/29/06 Mostly LPS reef (lords, micros, duncans, etc.) with some ricordia florida and zoanthids. Current Tank Info: 25 gallon, 28lbs of Marshall Island and Kaelini Live Rock, 2x65 power compact lighting, IFS Protein Skimmer

10/30/2006, 03:22 PM	#8
Thhitman Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 98	As far as your salinity goes, that will not cause any problems. I recently did have a outbreak of flatworms (bought corals from a individual, didn't quarantine them) and the way I noticed the worms were my frogspawns and hammers were not extending like normal. Little brown spots, very easy to miss if you were not careful. Not saying thats what it is, but something to check.

10/30/2006, 03:44 PM	#9
magdelan Fish? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gananda, NY Posts: 3,646	I have fully examined them for bugs and worms. I don't know what my magnesium is...I don't have a test for it. I add b-ionic and the Alk component usually makes a bit of snow in the tank if that gives you any indication. Does one want the Mag higher or lower? __________________ "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent, used to build monuments of nothingness. Those who specialize in them, are seldom capable of anything else."

10/30/2006, 04:15 PM	#10
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 23,198 Blog Entries: 54	Magnesium should be about 3x the calcium reading. __________________ Sk8r "Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale, not meq/l; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp abt 80, nitrate/ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal will not rise if mg is low. Alk reading far more imp't than PH; WATER QUALITY MATTERS!" "If anything CAN go wrong, it will, and at the worst possible moment."---St. Murphy. "For beginners---nothing good happens fast on an ice rink or in a fish tank." Current Tank Info: 105g, kalk, 250mh 10000; AquaCEV120; Iwaki 100, bsemnt sump/fuge; hermits, snails, mandy, scooter, blue chromis, azure damsel, starry & tailspot blennies, firefish, royal gramma, redstripe goby, YWG pair, lps;

10/30/2006, 05:53 PM	#11
magdelan Fish? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gananda, NY Posts: 3,646	Now my zoos and my anthellia are not open. I'm getting VERY concerned!!!! Please Help!!!! __________________ "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent, used to build monuments of nothingness. Those who specialize in them, are seldom capable of anything else."