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Old 01/11/2008, 07:17 PM   #1
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Bubble King Supermarines 200 internal

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Bubble King Supermarines 200

Airintake : adjustable with nozzle : 1000 - 1700 Liter/h
waterflow: adjustable with nozzle : 1000 - 3500 Liter/h
Hight : 55 cm
Pump : Red Dragon BigBlock, max. 35 Watt energyconsuption
Siliciumcarbid-bearings, Titanscrews, AntiCalzium Line, new Needlewheels with Carbonstuff
Extremly noise skimmer with high Performance.....newest development...

First Pictures here in RC......












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Old 01/11/2008, 08:47 PM   #2
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FIRST POST, OH YEAH!

Anyway, Klaus, those things look very nice. Is there a reason why there was some design changes other than size from the 250 model?


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Old 01/11/2008, 08:52 PM   #3
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@Aftertexas..
the Pump is the same, only smaller Needlewheel and nozzle, the Construction is very near of the Modell BK SM 250....

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Old 01/12/2008, 02:31 PM   #4
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Very nice Klaus, I see the extention from the riser tube over the bubble plate on the 200. Is that on the 250 as well or just the 200? Looks like the body being that much shorter than the 250 that it needed it to keep in the bubbles.
Also what is that in the cup? A removable neck of some sort?
Also any info on the 300? And external models on this?
Will the 300 be able to handle the DC pump with steel meshwheel?


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Old 01/18/2008, 11:25 PM   #5
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Is there going to be a mini version of the Supermarines?


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Old 01/18/2008, 11:56 PM   #6
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Klaus, you need to put more filth and chunky crap in that test chamber to run the skimmer in! Its skimmate is wet and light looking... not doing the design justice. I want to see coffee with turds floating inside! Lol. I want to see actual particles of carbon removed by the skimmer.

Also, just an idea, but this would be better than a cylinder on top of the cone...



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Old 01/19/2008, 01:48 PM   #7
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Wouldn't that be against the whole cone Idea? ,You will give bubbles a chance to push eachother back towars the larger outside cast rather than directed towards the neck & up!
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Hahn just wants to be the olny one pushing the cone skimmer thats all


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Old 01/19/2008, 05:43 PM   #9
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Hahn just wants to be the olny one pushing the cone skimmer thats all
I didn't know Hahn is Pushing skimmers now
Hahn are you making skimmers?
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So no mini versions?


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Old 01/19/2008, 11:24 PM   #11
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The outward cone at the top would act as a diffuser, as the bottom one and cylinder act as a nozzle... concentrating the flow. By spreading out the outlet with a cone, you spread out the flow, lowering its velocity. If you look at the new ATI BM300, you will see something similar. This one almost reminds me of the original Fauna-Marin/ATI design in that sure, it has a bubble plate, but then it has a cylinder around the output all the way to the top. Aqua Medic uses this method of diffusing the pump output as well on its T5000 series as well.

It may not be big, but I just thought it would be better than the cylinder on there.

I only make skimmers for my own testing. I like research, development, design... but have no interest in production.


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Old 01/20/2008, 11:37 AM   #13
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@Creetin...
the DC Motorblocks are comming next time include HastelloyC-Meshwheels. i Think, by Interzoo we can show the new DC-Pumps..

@cpreefguy...
at the moment, the Supermarines 200 are the smallest Version of the new Line....

@Hahnmeister...
nice idea.... or so it is not possible for cleaning the Column inside ? I want build a double-conical Foampipe....

Thats correct...The skimate likes look not dark..... or this skimmer is running on my saltwater-testtank, no bioload and Fishes inside the tank..

Please look this Picture from a customer with a new BK-250 Supermarines..



comparsion with anouther skimmer......



comparsion Red Dragon with a PSK2500



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Good point Klaus. With how these skimmers open at the bottom, cleaning a 'hourglass' might be pretty hard. Then again, I cant imagine the existing way it is on the 200 is that easy to clean either. Using an hourglass would require a different way of opening the skimmer I suppose... a flange around the bubble plate's top edge, or between the neck reducer and the main body cylinder.

I wonder... why is there that slight design chance between the 250 and 200. The 250 doesnt have that pipe extension, but 200 does. Is the air/water ratio of the 200 that different or something?


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I would imagine its because the 200 is much shorter, or short enough that some of the bubbles get bunched up and forced out the exit pipe. JMO


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Yes, but if everything is kept proportional, the pump's output, the diameter's, etc... there should be no problem.


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What is the actual footprint of this unit and rating?


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Old 01/27/2008, 05:06 PM   #18
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What is the actual footprint of this unit and rating?
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also, what will be the retail on these?


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@Tony,...

here the exactly Size for BK SM 200 footprint....

Pump frontside . 30 x 40 cm = 11.8 x 14,74 "

Pump leftside 27 x 47 cm = 10.63 x 18,5 "

@Flint&Eric...

Proline ordert last week 100 pices of the new Supermarines. So i think in 2-3 weeks, the first Supermarines are in USA/Canada....

@Hahn...

i want testing your idea next week....include changeable double Cone....

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Perhaps the curves should go on the outside...lol...
The 'basketball skimmer'...



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I am also interested in the MSRP and tank volume rating of the SM 200.


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I asked a vendor about the size of the 250, if I could squeeze it into 19x16 chamber of my Elos sump but never heard back. It looks like the 200 would. Hmm .... so many great skimmers, only one tank.

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I am also interested in the MSRP and tank volume rating of the SM 200.
Go to www.aquariumspecialty.com - that info is already listed. IIRC it is about $1,500 or something like that.

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Bubble King Supermarin 200 Internal
[BKSM200I]
$1,499.00

Bubble King Supermarin 200 Internal Skimmer

Currently Not in stock. Available in mid to late February. More data to come soon.

Notice that the pump can be mounted on 2 sides for better sump placement.

Supermarin Ratings:

For aquariums from 600-3000 Liters (150-793 Gallons)
35 Watts
3000 L/HR Water
1500 L/HR Air

Height: 55 cm / 21.7"


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Thanks Fliger, I didn't realize that they were listed anywhere yet.


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Re: Bubble King Supermarines 200 internal

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11579106#post11579106 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Klaus Jansen

Extremly noise skimmer with high Performance.....newest development...

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Is there a typo or did you mean to say the 200 supermarin is extremely noisy? I thought it was extremely quiet???!!!

Please clarify.

Also, what would be better for my 200g fowlr (heavy bioload), the 200 or 250 supermarin....would the 200 be satisfactory?

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he means super quiet.


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