Hybrid Onyx perc with Black Ocellaris

Sanjay · 01/05/2009, 02:48 PM

Recently my odd couple - Onyx percula and black ocellaris decided to spawn. I was able to raise a couple of batches of these. Here is a short article describing my experience with these.

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...is-darwin.html

The first surviving batch is now about 5 months old, and starting to develop some black coloration.

sanjay.

PSam · 01/05/2009, 02:56 PM

Very cool & great photos.

Looking forward to see how that 2nd batch progresses.

joshsaul · 01/06/2009, 02:28 PM

Great read, thanks!

Lmecher · 01/06/2009, 09:24 PM

That was wonderful, thanks for sharing your experience. I have an ocellaris pair that has just spawned, I got mine for Christmas. I also have an odd couple, a perc onyx w/black and white ocellaris, hmm. I have decided however to seperate them. I am planning to get another onyx, keeping the breed pure. I am planning to raise a batch of ocellaris soon.

Sanjay · 01/07/2009, 09:43 AM

Here are some latest pics of 2 that I moved out of growout into my 55G tank. They seem to have the ocellaris face with the percula eyes. They also have the ocellaris trait of the third stripe developing rather quickly unlike the onyx percs where it takes a long time to develop.

sanjay.

Lmecher · 01/07/2009, 10:35 AM

That is a beautiful baby, I love the black coloration, pretty interesting.

Doni · 01/07/2009, 11:05 AM

Excellent read. Thanks for sharing.
They're beautiful juveniles!

NirvanaFan · 01/07/2009, 12:05 PM

Congrats on rearing the fish this far. Nice article with some great pics as well! I noticed in the article you said that a picture of your larval catcher would be posted. Would you mind sharing a few pictures of it? I've been using the old "dunk the cup in the water" method to catch my baby clowns but I can't ever get the whole clutch. I built a catcher at one point, but wasn't happy with the results.

Thanks

Sanjay · 03/27/2009, 08:19 PM

These guys have been developing nicely for me. They are now at around 7 months old.

Around mid Jan I sold a few to people in the Manhattan area and it has been rather interesting to see how they are developing in other tanks. They started thread with pictures, and here is a link to it, where you can see the development.

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...owns-club.html

sanjay.

Haddonisreef · 03/28/2009, 08:45 AM

I really like the clown with the most Blk that you are keeping. Awesome read.

Sanjay · 04/02/2009, 09:18 PM

Yeah.. this one is starting to look awesome. I hope its color does not change anymore.

sanjay.

michellejy · 04/02/2009, 10:20 PM

That is beautiful. I saw your thread on MOFIB, and it is so interesting to see how these have developed.

z's_N_p's · 04/02/2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Sanjay
Yeah.. this one is starting to look awesome. I hope its color does not change anymore.

sanjay.

WOW!!!! nuff said!!!!

fote03 · 04/03/2009, 09:34 AM

Very nice! Are u going to sell any on here? I would be interested in a pair!

unbreakable · 04/03/2009, 09:55 AM

woww. that would be awesome if you sold these!

traveller7 · 04/05/2009, 04:34 PM

Let's not have sales and trade questions spill over into the discussion forums and ruin an informational post.

Thanks folks.

rastarainy · 04/06/2009, 04:28 PM

wow that looks amazing. the orange is so vibrate and bright!!

this is me · 04/10/2009, 09:13 AM

Sanjay,
Great looking fish! How many dorsal spine does it have? is it consistent with all the clowns?

Diver Dan SD · 04/10/2009, 06:57 PM

AWESOME!!!
I have a onyx and B+W occi pair as well!
Hoping someday they spawn!

rkelman · 04/11/2009, 04:29 AM

Wow Sanjay. That's a pretty awesome fish. You should try and get a pair of those and see if you can get them to spawn. It might be the next big thing

Very nice fish. Are any of them full perfect bars? All the pics I see are misbars.

OrionN · 04/11/2009, 07:54 AM

Very nice. Is he the darkest of all of your babies? I an really see the Ocellaris shape in this clown.

Sanjay · 04/11/2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by this is me
Sanjay,
Great looking fish! How many dorsal spine does it have? is it consistent with all the clowns?

I have trouble counting the spines.. hard for me to see.

sanjay.

Sanjay · 04/11/2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rkelman
Wow Sanjay. That's a pretty awesome fish. You should try and get a pair of those and see if you can get them to spawn. It might be the next big thing Very nice fish. Are any of them full perfect bars? All the pics I see are misbars.

The first batch had a lot of perfect bars. The 2nd batch I started playing with temperature to see if that had an effect on mis bars and it seems to. I got more mis bars at higher temps. I kind of like the mis bars - adds more variety to the fish.

I have a couple of these F1 that I am saving to see what comes from the F2 generation.

Also, now that the male is dead, I will pair the female with one of its off spring.

sanjay.

Sanjay · 04/11/2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrionN
Very nice. Is he the darkest of all of your babies? I an really see the Ocellaris shape in this clown.

He is the darkest of the ones I kept from the first batch. There seem to be others that are just as dark or even more black among the ones that others got from me.

Plus at this point, I do not know how dark/black they will get over time. My guess is that in the worst case you will end up with an awesome looking Onyx, or a completely black occellaris looking fish.

I personally hope that they retain the orange in parts of the body and fins. That is how I like them.

sanjay.

elegance coral · 04/11/2009, 10:36 AM

Beautiful fish. You should come up with a name for them. Hybrid Onyx/Black ocellaris doesn't do the fish justice. Very unique and awesome fish.

01/05/2009, 02:48 PM	#1
Sanjay Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: State College, PA Posts: 2,302	Hybrid Onyx perc with Black Ocellaris Recently my odd couple - Onyx percula and black ocellaris decided to spawn. I was able to raise a couple of batches of these. Here is a short article describing my experience with these. http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...is-darwin.html The first surviving batch is now about 5 months old, and starting to develop some black coloration. sanjay. Last edited by Sanjay; 01/05/2009 at 03:03 PM.

01/05/2009, 02:56 PM	#2
PSam Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,036	Very cool & great photos. Looking forward to see how that 2nd batch progresses. __________________ ..no vemos las cosas como son las vemos como somos nosotros...

01/06/2009, 09:24 PM	#4
Lmecher Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,337	That was wonderful, thanks for sharing your experience. I have an ocellaris pair that has just spawned, I got mine for Christmas. I also have an odd couple, a perc onyx w/black and white ocellaris, hmm. I have decided however to seperate them. I am planning to get another onyx, keeping the breed pure. I am planning to raise a batch of ocellaris soon. __________________ just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimming ,swimming, swimming Current Tank Info: 120,50, 14 biocube, and 5 hospital tank

01/07/2009, 10:35 AM	#6
Lmecher Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,337	That is a beautiful baby, I love the black coloration, pretty interesting. __________________ just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimming ,swimming, swimming Current Tank Info: 120,50, 14 biocube, and 5 hospital tank

01/07/2009, 11:05 AM	#7
Doni Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 699	Excellent read. Thanks for sharing. They're beautiful juveniles! __________________ Doni Marie~ "Energy and persistance conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin Current Tank Info: 120 AGA reef and 1000+ gallons of clownfish!

01/06/2009, 02:28 PM	#3
joshsaul Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New York Posts: 106	Great read, thanks!

01/07/2009, 09:43 AM	#5
Sanjay Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: State College, PA Posts: 2,302	Here are some latest pics of 2 that I moved out of growout into my 55G tank. They seem to have the ocellaris face with the percula eyes. They also have the ocellaris trait of the third stripe developing rather quickly unlike the onyx percs where it takes a long time to develop. sanjay.

01/07/2009, 12:05 PM	#8
NirvanaFan Reef Ninja Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,280	Congrats on rearing the fish this far. Nice article with some great pics as well! I noticed in the article you said that a picture of your larval catcher would be posted. Would you mind sharing a few pictures of it? I've been using the old "dunk the cup in the water" method to catch my baby clowns but I can't ever get the whole clutch. I built a catcher at one point, but wasn't happy with the results. Thanks

03/27/2009, 08:19 PM	#9
Sanjay Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: State College, PA Posts: 2,302	These guys have been developing nicely for me. They are now at around 7 months old. Around mid Jan I sold a few to people in the Manhattan area and it has been rather interesting to see how they are developing in other tanks. They started thread with pictures, and here is a link to it, where you can see the development. http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...owns-club.html sanjay.

03/28/2009, 08:45 AM	#10
Haddonisreef Registered Member. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Where ever she needs me Posts: 2,902	I really like the clown with the most Blk that you are keeping. Awesome read.

04/02/2009, 09:18 PM	#11
Sanjay Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: State College, PA Posts: 2,302	Yeah.. this one is starting to look awesome. I hope its color does not change anymore. sanjay.

04/02/2009, 10:20 PM	#12
michellejy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: OH Posts: 1,076	That is beautiful. I saw your thread on MOFIB, and it is so interesting to see how these have developed. __________________ Michelle Current Tank Info: 30G FOWLR Clownfish tank soon to be replaced by JBJ 28 Gallon Nano

04/03/2009, 09:34 AM	#14
fote03 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gainesville, Florida Posts: 761	Very nice! Are u going to sell any on here? I would be interested in a pair! __________________ 65Gal Reef with 20gal Display Fuge - 60Gal Mixed Reef - 29gal BioCube

04/03/2009, 09:55 AM	#15
unbreakable D: Join Date: May 2007 Location: ? Posts: 2,868	woww. that would be awesome if you sold these! __________________ INTERNET= Serious Business!

04/05/2009, 04:34 PM	#16
traveller7 Time to get back in? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 9,441	Let's not have sales and trade questions spill over into the discussion forums and ruin an informational post. Thanks folks. __________________ Scott Current Tank Info: Glass 2.5's

04/06/2009, 04:28 PM	#17
rastarainy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bloomington, Indiana Posts: 254	wow that looks amazing. the orange is so vibrate and bright!! __________________ "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now!"-peter from family guy Current Tank Info: 6 Gallon Nano..In progress

04/10/2009, 09:13 AM	#18
this is me Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,074	Sanjay, Great looking fish! How many dorsal spine does it have? is it consistent with all the clowns? __________________ Nick When a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man, it's $4.95 per minute. Current Tank Info: Miracle 360 gallons

04/10/2009, 06:57 PM	#19
Diver Dan SD Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 96	AWESOME!!! I have a onyx and B+W occi pair as well! Hoping someday they spawn!

04/11/2009, 04:29 AM	#20
rkelman Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Belleville, Ontario Canada Posts: 3,438	Wow Sanjay. That's a pretty awesome fish. You should try and get a pair of those and see if you can get them to spawn. It might be the next big thing Very nice fish. Are any of them full perfect bars? All the pics I see are misbars.

04/11/2009, 07:54 AM	#21
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	Very nice. Is he the darkest of all of your babies? I an really see the Ocellaris shape in this clown. __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

04/11/2009, 10:36 AM	#25
elegance coral They call me EC Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: central Florida Posts: 6,208	Beautiful fish. You should come up with a name for them. Hybrid Onyx/Black ocellaris doesn't do the fish justice. Very unique and awesome fish. __________________ "Most of the failures with marine aquaria are due to lack of knowledge of the biological processes that occur in the aquarium." Martin A. Moe, Jr. "A scientist seeks the truth, wherever that may lead. A believer already knows the truth, and cannot be swayed no matter how compelling the evidence." Current Tank Info: I'm trying to see how many tanks will fit in my house before the wife loses it.