Rimless Aquarium Club

[jbanks]

Beautiful update shots guys. Here's my rimless at 1 year old this month.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/banksj/IMG_0615.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/banksj/IMG_0788.jpg

[polkiejoe]

Going to pick up my Glasscages 120 rimless tomorrow. Had them do a horizontal beananimal overflow setup :) I'll get picks up ASAP.... pray for me ;)

[cthedaytrader]

Looking Good JBANKS,

How do you like the ATI PM?

[Mike de Leon]

Just got the Sfiligoi, now if I can get my hands on a decent camera...

<a href="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i21/mookerji/?action=view&current=lighting013.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i21/mookerji/lighting013.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[jbanks]

Looking Good JBANKS,

How do you like the ATI PM?

Thanks Chris! I'm loving I Bro. It's a very powerful fixture. It still amazes me at how quickly it can bleach out a coral if you're not careful with acclimation.

[PurdueMAN_08]

Here is my glasscages 36x37x18 rimless. I built the stand myself which was quite a project. Glad to join the rimless association! They did a great job.

<a href="http://s695.photobucket.com/albums/vv317/dsmithwc04/?action=view&current=DSCF0283.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv317/dsmithwc04/DSCF0283.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[PurdueMAN_08]

<a href="http://s695.photobucket.com/albums/vv317/dsmithwc04/?action=view&current=DSCF0289.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv317/dsmithwc04/DSCF0289.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[NaClCrocodile]

Looks like your work paid off. That stand is very nice. Good job. I love a nice rimless tank. Powermodule too lol.

[boodlefish]

Tucker,
Beauty of a tank!

Thanks Steve, your avatar always cracks me up.

[CurvBall]

Some really beatiful systems in this thread. Thought I'd contribute a few updated photos of my 20g system.Here ya go:

http://www.nanoreefblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/zeonano9020-9.jpg
http://www.nanoreefblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/tank_july.jpg

more details on my own site or in my thread: http://web1.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17369589

Thanks,

[ganjero]

If you guys had Lumenbrights and a powermodule to use on a rimless 48x30x18, which one would you use. I feel the PM is a cleaner and sleeker look, but I just love MH. The other thing is that i will be hard to add supplementation with the LBs. which I like to have.

BTW I'll be joining the club this weekend

[pendraig]

The other thing is that i will be hard to add supplementation with the LBs. which I like to have.

I prefer MH too and use a LB pendant.

I supplement with LEDs. Mounted behind the LB using marine grade velcro is an actinic Ecoxotic Stunner strip. And I hung a track lighting rail (from Lowes) to mount PAR38 LED spots - 2 Sunbrite actinics and 2 Nanotuners 12K.

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv12/pguevara74/Elos70/FTS-with-Spots-for-Web.jpg

[ganjero]

Nice setup, but I think that takes too much attention from the tank.

[kunu]

heres my first tank!
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx195/moomans/IMG_9674.jpg
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx195/moomans/IMG_9669.jpg
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx195/moomans/IMG_9664.jpg
:)

[kgk]

My rock scape is coming along & I added a couple fish. Also moved a couple of corals over from the other tank, but nothing is mounted yet.

http://txexile.org/tank/17jul10/thumbnails/tn_front2.jpg (http://txexile.org/tank/17jul10/front2.jpg)

http://txexile.org/tank/17jul10/thumbnails/tn_left.jpg (http://txexile.org/tank/17jul10/left.jpg)

http://txexile.org/tank/17jul10/thumbnails/tn_right.jpg (http://txexile.org/tank/17jul10/right.jpg)

[jkf1983]

Here's mine! 120 Rimless Starphire 48"x24"x24" from glasscages and I built the stand.
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/FkCgRMpEjrEsGafyxIImsQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_cm_wG7nCedI/TEUCAANJlTI/AAAAAAAAJkw/gXxWdJlkUUI/s800/IMG_1787.JPG" /></a>

[96gts]

This is a picture of my 90Gal 36"x24"x24" at home, running on all T5. (Sorry for the picture quality, it was taken with my phone.)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4822137894_c6d73a69f0_b.jpg


My Elos 70 55Gal at my office that was setup this week. I'm using a Viper 150W Clip-on for now, I have a Elos E-Power 250W that I have to figure out how to hang it.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4821518425_de9ebb0c4c_b.jpg

[larryfl1]

I am looking to do an 8ft tank rimless..

how high can i go with footprint of 96x30 ???

it will be 3/4 glass...

what is the maximum height that will be safe and strong as i will be using a few vortechs also...

[customdusty]

nice tank. what bulb combo are you using??

Sorry for the late response....

My bulb combo is 8 ATI Blue +, 2 KZ Fiji Purple, and 2 Aquascience 15k. It is ridiculous, I just can't get the pictures to depict it properly. My tank looks "neon" for lack of a better term - The intensity of the flourescence and actinic pop is off the charts.

[ddeneve]

Who are the best rimless manufacturers/distributors? I live in northern New Jersey and am looking for a tank for my first saltwater setup. I might just end up going with a 40g breeder because all the rimless tanks I've looked at are pretty pricey.

[James000]

I am getting my 90gal rimless set up now...

Just curious, what fish are you guys successfully keeping in your tanks WITHOUT using netting, eggcrate, etc? Which fish are NOT jumpers?

Thanks,

[96gts]

I think it's possible for most fish to jump. I have even heard angel, tang, clown jumped, I think wrasse, goby and jawfish are probably the worst. I think fish like cardinal, clown, angel and tang have less chance to jump.

[jkf1983]

I have a yellow tang, one spot fox face, true perc clown, and chromis. So far only lost 1 chromis... jumping is an issue though definitely limits your choices... I would probably stay away from wrasses, gobies, fire fish, jawfish etc because they are usually jumpers. BRS sells netting now that you can put in a screen frame, but it kinda kills the look of the rimless tank in my opinion.

[lost4ever]

Can i join? My 18" cube...

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee132/Medfocus/Topdown.jpg

[grevedin]

Here is mine, viewable from 4 sides:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18032

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18031

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18033

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18038

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18037

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18040

My build thread is here:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1710099

[customdusty]

Here is mine, viewable from 4 sides:

My build thread is here:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1710099



Very nice. Well done.

[customdusty]

Here is an updated picture of mine.

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/customdusty/DSCN2331.jpg

[chumm]

awesome tanks!!!

[yerboy]

my update
older side view
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e313/yerboy71/Picture018.jpg
current fts
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e313/yerboy71/IMG_6281.jpg

[kmu]

Here is an updated picture of mine.

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/customdusty/DSCN2331.jpg

Nice pop on those yellows and reds... what i that monster on the left side a carpet or a leather? got any closer pics?

[customdusty]

Nice pop on those yellows and reds... what i that monster on the left side a carpet or a leather? got any closer pics?

Thanks. The colors don't look nearly as great in the pictures as it looks in person. This is the reason I love T5s, the flexibility to tweak colors just how you want them. I have not seen many tanks with more actinic pop than I have.

The coral in the far corner is a big leather, one with which I have had good success getting clownfish to host in. It is easily more than a foot tall and a foot across now.

[beex215]

beautiful tanks everyone. i think i can just take my black trim off as it does have glass braces.

[mike810]

can i join??

http://i38.*******.com/286zsqx.jpg

[jkf1983]

beautiful tanks everyone. i think i can just take my black trim off as it does have glass braces.

No! Your tank will fall apart! Rimless tanks are made of thicker glass so the seams will stay together. Mine is 3/4 inch glass.

[Paul_TheOctopus]

So many great looking systems here!! Make me drooling....

[autopro]

Hello:

I can finally join the club :dance: The tank is 72” long x 15” wide x 14.5” high and it is made of 1/2" glass.

This is a rendering of it when I was in the planning stages:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/energyauto/Pecera/PeceraRevit.jpg

And this is from yesterday after they delivered it to my house:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/energyauto/Pecera/IMG_3005.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/energyauto/Pecera/IMG_3004.jpg

Check out my build thread here: :thumbsup:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1893104

[CurvBall]

Really really beautiful, don't know what else to add... other than, wow! :thumbsup:

Here is mine, viewable from 4 sides:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18032

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18031

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18033

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18038

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18037

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2316&pictureid=18040

My build thread is here:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1710099

[mavjoy]

^^^^Tank looks awesome!!!

[kmu]

Thanks. The colors don't look nearly as great in the pictures as it looks in person. This is the reason I love T5s, the flexibility to tweak colors just how you want them. I have not seen many tanks with more actinic pop than I have.

The coral in the far corner is a big leather, one with which I have had good success getting clownfish to host in. It is easily more than a foot tall and a foot across now.

What bulb combo are you running to get this nice pop on the yellows/greens and reds?

I got an ATI 6x54 fixture with
3 ATI Blue Plus
1 UVL Super Actinic
1 UVL Actinic white (75% actinic- 25% 10k)
1 Fiji Purple

What changes would I have to do to get similar colors? I had in mind to get rid of the UVL super actinic and add an extra ATI Blue Plus since I think the UVL Super Actinic is very dim.

THX in advance

[eums]

My tank is still a baby, was setup with dry rock so its taking its sweet time.
Its a 90 gal 36x24x24 made from 25mm acrylic

build thread at:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1893432

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx149/eumskickin/New%20tank/FTS3andahalfmonths.jpg?t=1282107126

[amheck]

customdusty, I'm also curious about your bulb selection. It looks really nice.

What bulb combo are you running to get this nice pop on the yellows/greens and reds?

I got an ATI 6x54 fixture with
3 ATI Blue Plus
1 UVL Super Actinic
1 UVL Actinic white (75% actinic- 25% 10k)
1 Fiji Purple

What changes would I have to do to get similar colors? I had in mind to get rid of the UVL super actinic and add an extra ATI Blue Plus since I think the UVL Super Actinic is very dim.

THX in advance

[customdusty]

My bulb combo is 8 ATI Blue+, 2 Fiji Purple, and 2 Aquascience 15k. I run them in 3 separate groups of 4 bulbs.

Set One consists of 2 Blue+ and 2 AS 15k

Set Two consists of 2 Blue+ and 2 Fiji Purple

Set Three is 4 ATI Blue+

My favorite combo is running set 2 and 3, so 6 Blue+ and 2 Fiji Purple. The color is amazing in person. The actinic pop of the flourescing corals especially the pop of the oranges/reds is very vibrant.

I tried a few of the GE 6500k and ATI Aquablue Special in the past, but found that the AS 15k delivered a more crisp color and quite a bit of actinic pop for not being an actinic bulb per say. This in my opinion is one of the most underrated bulbs out there.

[Mr. Right]

What bulb combo are you running to get this nice pop on the yellows/greens and reds?

I got an ATI 6x54 fixture with
3 ATI Blue Plus
1 UVL Super Actinic
1 UVL Actinic white (75% actinic- 25% 10k)
1 Fiji Purple

What changes would I have to do to get similar colors? I had in mind to get rid of the UVL super actinic and add an extra ATI Blue Plus since I think the UVL Super Actinic is very dim.

THX in advance

Sorry for jumping in but IMO, I'd lose the Super Actinic and replace it with a GE 6k. I know how this sounds but it works. Are you sure you have an actinic white? If its how you descride (75% actinic- 25% 10k) it sounds like a UVL 75/25. At any rate, ditch the actinic and replace it w/ a GE for reds and yellows.

[JG1]

My bulb combo is 8 ATI Blue+, 2 Fiji Purple, and 2 Aquascience 15k. I run them in 3 separate groups of 4 bulbs.

Set One consists of 2 Blue+ and 2 AS 15k

Set Two consists of 2 Blue+ and 2 Fiji Purple

Set Three is 4 ATI Blue+

My favorite combo is running set 2 and 3, so 6 Blue+ and 2 Fiji Purple. The color is amazing in person. The actinic pop of the flourescing corals especially the pop of the oranges/reds is very vibrant.

I tried a few of the GE 6500k and ATI Aquablue Special in the past, but found that the AS 15k delivered a more crisp color and quite a bit of actinic pop for not being an actinic bulb per say. This in my opinion is one of the most underrated bulbs out there.

Beautiful tank.

If you were to run an 8 bulb combo what would you run? (i'm gonna use an 8 bulb PM thats why I ask). Do you have a pic of the 6 blue+ and 2 fiji purples?

[jbanks]

My bulb combo is 8 ATI Blue+, 2 Fiji Purple, and 2 Aquascience 15k. I run them in 3 separate groups of 4 bulbs.

Set One consists of 2 Blue+ and 2 AS 15k

Set Two consists of 2 Blue+ and 2 Fiji Purple

Set Three is 4 ATI Blue+

My favorite combo is running set 2 and 3, so 6 Blue+ and 2 Fiji Purple. The color is amazing in person. The actinic pop of the flourescing corals especially the pop of the oranges/reds is very vibrant.

I tried a few of the GE 6500k and ATI Aquablue Special in the past, but found that the AS 15k delivered a more crisp color and quite a bit of actinic pop for not being an actinic bulb per say. This in my opinion is one of the most underrated bulbs out there.


I love my ATI PM, but the fact that you're able to run your Sfiligoi Stealth 12in three different sequences is quite amazing.. plus you get two extra bulbs.. Very Nice and I agree, nothing gives you the beautiful color of Blue + and KZ Fiji purples together. I end up ging with a UVL antinic White as a replacement due to the Fiji being out of stock and I really miss it! A must see in person!

[customdusty]

Beautiful tank.

If you were to run an 8 bulb combo what would you run? (i'm gonna use an 8 bulb PM thats why I ask). Do you have a pic of the 6 blue+ and 2 fiji purples?

I don't remember how the 8 bulb PM was wired so I'm not sure what you have in terms of switches. When I had an 8 bulb fixture I always had a group of 4 that had 3 Blue+ with 1 Fiji Purple. I'd take the other 4 and 3 Blue+ and a GE 6500K. This is a good recipe for growth and aesthetics, but if you want more actinic pop and flourescing, swap the GE 6500k for a AS 15k. I wouldn't run just the Blue+ and FP alone, in my opinion the corals benefit from a little more of a full spectrum than that combo offers.

In regards to the GE 6500k, I am a big fan of this bulb and I used to run a GE 6500k in place of one of the Fiji Purples. When combined with the high number of Blue+ bulbs, I feel that they have a similar effect - although stand alone the FP is more red and the GE more yellow. The only difference I noticed was that FP gives a little more pop to reds/warm colors. The GE 6500k really enhances yellows, which helps pinks, reds, and greens, but doesn't 'pop'.

I'll see if I can take more pictures, but I just can't get my camera to capture the colors as accurately as they appear in person. Anybody who lives in the Chicagoland area or is visiting the area is more than welcome to come by and check out my system first hand.

[JG1]

I don't remember how the 8 bulb PM was wired so I'm not sure what you have in terms of switches. When I had an 8 bulb fixture I always had a group of 4 that had 3 Blue+ with 1 Fiji Purple. I'd take the other 4 and 3 Blue+ and a GE 6500K. This is a good recipe for growth and aesthetics, but if you want more actinic pop and flourescing, swap the GE 6500k for a AS 15k. I wouldn't run just the Blue+ and FP alone, in my opinion the corals benefit from a little more of a full spectrum than that combo offers.

In regards to the GE 6500k, I am a big fan of this bulb and I used to run a GE 6500k in place of one of the Fiji Purples. When combined with the high number of Blue+ bulbs, I feel that they have a similar effect - although stand alone the FP is more red and the GE more yellow. The only difference I noticed was that FP gives a little more pop to reds/warm colors. The GE 6500k really enhances yellows, which helps pinks, reds, and greens, but doesn't 'pop'.

I'll see if I can take more pictures, but I just can't get my camera to capture the colors as accurately as they appear in person. Anybody who lives in the Chicagoland area or is visiting the area is more than welcome to come by and check out my system first hand.

I believe the 2nd and 7th slot are dusk/dawn

Was thinking:

Front
Blue +
Fiji Purple
Blue +
KZ New Generation
Blue +
Fiji Purple
Blue +
KZ New Generation

or

Front
Blue +
Fiji Purple
Blue +
KZ New Generation
Blue +
Fiji Purple
Blue +
Blue +


i'm scared of the 6500 because I heard it's very yellow

[grevedin]

OK, here are some updated pictures. The old aquascape was really bugging me, especially the larger island viewed from one side of the tank. I have lowered the larger island and built it in a more diagonal structure with an overhang on which I have placed the green staghorn. The smaller island has been left unchanged and I have added a couple of more SPS colonies. It is not easy aquascaping a structure viewable from all sides because each time you get one side right, there is something wrong with it on the other side. Anyway, I am finally happy with it and hope you like it.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2787&pictureid=19780

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2787&pictureid=19781

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2787&pictureid=19786

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2787&pictureid=19783

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2787&pictureid=19782

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2787&pictureid=19790

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2787&pictureid=19792

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2787&pictureid=19784

http://reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=2787&pictureid=19785

[mavjoy]

Looks great=)

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Looks great grevedin. Well done!

[customdusty]

I believe the 2nd and 7th slot are dusk/dawn

Was thinking:

Front
Blue +
Fiji Purple
Blue +
KZ New Generation
Blue +
Fiji Purple
Blue +
KZ New Generation

or

Front
Blue +
Fiji Purple
Blue +
KZ New Generation
Blue +
Fiji Purple
Blue +
Blue +


i'm scared of the 6500 because I heard it's very yellow

You hardly notice the yellow of the 6500k when you have it paired with so many Blue+ bulbs, that's why I liked it. When you put it next to any bulb around 10-12k, it's tough to tell the difference, hence my jump to the AS 15k to actually see a difference.

That being said, your second combo would definitely be the one I'd choose. If you're switches are 2 and 7 for dusk/dawn - I would try this:

1 Blue+
2 Blue+
3 FP
4 Blue+
5 KZ New Gen, Aquascience, GE - whatever you choose for daylight spectrum
6 Blue +
7 Fiji Purple
8 Blue +

You just don't want to lead with a FP bulb up front in any combination that might be on by itself, always put it behind a Blue+. You may also want to just ditch the Fiji Purple in slot 7 and leave it a Blue+ as well - I'd buy an extra bulb and have it available to try out when you set it up.

[JG1]

That being said, your second combo would definitely be the one I'd choose. If you're switches are 2 and 7 for dusk/dawn - I would try this:

1 Blue+
2 Blue+
3 FP
4 Blue+
5 KZ New Gen, Aquascience, GE - whatever you choose for daylight spectrum
6 Blue +
7 Fiji Purple
8 Blue +

You just don't want to lead with a FP bulb up front in any combination that might be on by itself, always put it behind a Blue+. You may also want to just ditch the Fiji Purple in slot 7 and leave it a Blue+ as well - I'd buy an extra bulb and have it available to try out when you set it up.

Thanks bud, I'll probably go with this. You think one fiji purple will be sufficient...just use a blue+ in the 7th slot? I'll blue an extra bulb just in case.

[twiggyb]

I'm thinking about trying a rimless. Where is a good place to get one from, or any tank in general? I want to upgrade to a 220

[snaza]

Hi,

I wanna get a 60x30x20 starphire rimless. would 1/2 inch glass be ok?

thanks

[Anemone0524]

hey snaza - it depends on the builder you ask. i've asked that same question to different builders, same dimensions and all, and one said 1/2" is okay and one insisted on 3/4

[Anemone0524]

**double post**

[deepseanige]

Just thought I'd share my new 30"x14"x30"

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/nigelbrookes/DSC_0235.jpg

[Felix1021]

nice.

[Mike de Leon]

Hi,

I wanna get a 60x30x20 starphire rimless. would 1/2 inch glass be ok?

thanks

my tank is 60 x 28 x 22 with 3 4 glass and there is still a slight bow on it.

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my tank is 60 x 28 x 22 with 3 4 glass and there is still a slight bow on it.

Wow :eek2: How old is the tank?

[tnyr5]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/tnyr5/IMG_0340-3.jpg built it myself out of 1/2" glass. 32 x 30 x 21 with a false back that serves as a coast to coast overflow

[mudskipper1]

I am planning a DIY rimless ~10 gallon acrylic tank w/ External Overflow. I used an online calculator for thickness, and it said I need at least .290" acrylic to do rimless. So 3/8" acrylic is what I am planning. The plan is 14x14x13. Does 3/8" sound reasonable to you guys? Does anyone have a tank with similar specs? I looked through 50+ pages of this thread and didn't see anything too similar.

[SaltwaterChris]

MORE PICSPlease.

[cthedaytrader]

Heres my 75G Rimless when I first set it up, I upgraded from my 20G Longs Sps tank, so its been stocked up now for almost 2 months now.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/cthedaytrader/tankandstand4.jpg

[solRNY]

wow, that is a pretty awesome looking setup! liking the stand a lot, its nice, white and very elegantly done :)

[cthedaytrader]

wow, that is a pretty awesome looking setup! liking the stand a lot, its nice, white and very elegantly done :)

Thanks SolRNY, I was a little hesitant at first to go white, but I am very happy with how it all turned out. I really like the white with the Rimless tank

[Ccondo]

Anyone know if A.G.E. can use their unique PVC bottom on non-viewing sides of the aquarium to increase strength?

[GSMguy]

Yes AGE can do all PVC except the front pane if you want.

[afernandez]

I'm glad to say I'm a member I order last week! Should be here within the first weeks of nov.

Very excited

I want to thank all you guys for inspiration.. And getting kicked out of my house lol j/k not yet atleast :party:

[seahorsedreams]

Still have to mount the light from the ceiling. The light is now complete, where in the picture it isn't.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll73/hixphotobucket/25g%20Angler%20Tank/frontdecor700.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll73/hixphotobucket/25g%20Angler%20Tank/sidescaped700.jpg

[amheck]

what moonlights are you guys using on your rimless tanks? I really wish I could find a nice, clip on blue LED light. All of the other moonlight options seem to be best suited for mounting in a canopy (which of course I don't have). And the disco-ball solana light doesn't seem to be the best suited for mounting these either.

[reefkeeps]

I have the same question and same desire!

[boxer385]

i have a 90 gal rimless tank my problem is that my water level is about quarter
inch from the top, how do i lower it some, i have durso i have raise it and lower it but don't work, Any suggestions?

[mudskipper1]

Is the durso inside and overflow box? if so, you would have to lower the level of the teeth(if toothed) on the overflow, which can be accomplished with a dremel or router. Lowering the flow through the overflow would help a little bit as well.

[boxer385]

the durso is inside the overflow box, so you recommend that i lower the tooth
on the overflow?

[GQuinn]

Can you get a picture of your existing overflow box showing the water level and the teeth. Sometimes the teeth are to narrow and need to be widen or lowered (as mudskipper1 suggested)

Gary

[strendo]

Here's an update of my Custom 175:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/48353785@N04/5158456587/" title="IMG_0987 by strendo, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1395/5158456587_a8d0b31848_b.jpg" width="800" height="533" alt="IMG_0987" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/48353785@N04/5158454979/" title="IMG_1032 by strendo, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1111/5158454979_729b6e42c9_b.jpg" width="800" height="533" alt="IMG_1032" /></a>

[strendo]

Here's an update of my Custom 175:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/48353785@N04/5158456587/" title="IMG_0987 by strendo, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1395/5158456587_a8d0b31848_b.jpg" width="800" height="533" alt="IMG_0987" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/48353785@N04/5158454979/" title="IMG_1032 by strendo, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1111/5158454979_729b6e42c9_b.jpg" width="800" height="533" alt="IMG_1032" /></a>

[96gts]

Here's an update of my Custom 175:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/48353785@N04/5158456587/" title="IMG_0987 by strendo, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1395/5158456587_a8d0b31848_b.jpg" width="800" height="533" alt="IMG_0987" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/48353785@N04/5158454979/" title="IMG_1032 by strendo, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1111/5158454979_729b6e42c9_b.jpg" width="800" height="533" alt="IMG_1032" /></a>


Wow! Very Nice! Nice colors on all your Corals. How do you keep your tank so clean?

[JG1]

Crappy cell phone pics but here's my system that will running soon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/IMAG0118.jpg?t=1289249660

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/IMAG0119.jpg?t=1289249673

[mudskipper1]

That is definitely one of the cleanest looking systems that I have seen! Look forward to seeing progress!

[widmer]

I've been a member of the club for quite a while now.. I'm sure this pic is getting old at this point, but w/e

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk10/widfis/01282010012.jpg

Upgrading this holiday season to a custom-built rimless starphire 40-breeder-ish shaped aquarium, with even wacker rimlessness

[customdusty]

Crappy cell phone pics but here's my system that will running soon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/IMAG0118.jpg?t=1289249660

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/IMAG0119.jpg?t=1289249673

Looks familiar, even down to the overflow and return lines. Good job on hanging arms for the light fixture. :thumbsup:

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/customdusty/000_0063-1.jpg

[JG1]

Looks familiar, even down to the overflow Good job on hanging arms for the light fixture. :thumbsup:



What a coinkydink! LOL

Did get the idea from your tank after all.

The hanging arms for the ATI is from cadlights....it's their artisan series lamp tree....I just sprayed it satin black.

[jkf1983]

Man I'm jealous of the small floating overflow boxes on your miracles tanks... the one on my rimless glasscages tank is huge compared to that! Wish they would have offered that as an option.

[customdusty]

Man I'm jealous of the small floating overflow boxes on your miracles tanks... the one on my rimless glasscages tank is huge compared to that! Wish they would have offered that as an option.

The glass-holes overflow wasn't an option per say, I planned on using it from the beginning to keep from using the real-estate inside the tank with an overflow - I simply told Miracles where and what size hole to put in for it. I actually wanted to have an horizontal external overflow on the back of the tank, but I didn't enough room behind the tank and the cost was much greater than if I went with glass holes. I'm happy I did.

[96gts]

Looks familiar, even down to the overflow and return lines. Good job on hanging arms for the light fixture. :thumbsup:

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/customdusty/000_0063-1.jpg

May I ask who made the light hanger that you are using?

[Logzor]

The glass-holes overflow wasn't an option per say, I planned on using it from the beginning to keep from using the real-estate inside the tank with an overflow - I simply told Miracles where and what size hole to put in for it. I actually wanted to have an horizontal external overflow on the back of the tank, but I didn't enough room behind the tank and the cost was much greater than if I went with glass holes. I'm happy I did.

I did the same thing with my Miracles tank (which is still being constructed). The original overflow that I wanted was GARGANTUAN. I stumbled upon the glass-holes overflow and I can't wait to see the result.

Pics to come this week I hope...

[Logzor]

Shipping next week I think:

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/316/e/4/rimless_aquarium_by_logzor-d32ov7x.jpg

Still needs to have the glass-holes overflow installed, which will be done before it ships.

[geaux xman]

looks like an internal center overflow with the 2 drilled holes at the bottom?

[Logzor]

LOL I had it drilled for an internal but changed my mind and went with the glass-holes. The internal was going to be HUGE.

Now it will be plugged with bulkheads and could be used for a future closed loop or something.

[JG1]

Shipping next week I think:

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/316/e/4/rimless_aquarium_by_logzor-d32ov7x.jpg

Still needs to have the glass-holes overflow installed, which will be done before it ships.

Be prepared to rip the blue vinyl off and redo it. The clamps that they use wrinkle the **** out of the vinyl and you'll see air pockets when viewing from the front.

I had to completely redo mine. They should put the vinyl on LAST but they don't...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/48x24w3holesback.jpg?t=1289589892

[Logzor]

Hopefully that isn't the case for mine. Maybe Ill have them double check it.

How is the vinyl attached? I figure you could smooth it out with a credit card or something.

[JG1]

Hopefully that isn't the case for mine. Maybe Ill have them double check it.

How is the vinyl attached? I figure you could smooth it out with a credit card or something.

I was suprised they sent it to me like that. One of the corners was so bad they cut the damaged area out and put a vinyl patch on top. Now from the front you could see the seam as the air is impossible to get out.

Really dissapointed they did that.

You cannot smooth it out...you have to rip it off and start over.

[Logzor]

I can't believe that. Yours is the first complaint I have heard about Miracles.

[geaux xman]

Logzor, do you have the dimensions of the overflow they had planned on using? i'm debating between center and corner. 12x6"?

[Logzor]

Yes the original was something like 12x6 but I wanted to have a beananimal drain which made it something crazy like 20x6. I am very happy I went the the glass-holes because I will lose zero space in my footprint.

Centered or corner depends on personal preference and location in the room. Will people be viewing from the side that will house the corner overflow?

[JG1]

Yes the original was something like 12x6 but I wanted to have a beananimal drain which made it something crazy like 20x6. I am very happy I went the the glass-holes because I will lose zero space in my footprint.

Centered or corner depends on personal preference and location in the room. Will people be viewing from the side that will house the corner overflow?

what are the dimensions or your tank?

[Logzor]

48x30x24

Has 3/4" front/side starphire, 5/8" back, 1/2" bottom.

[skh]

Yes the original was something like 12x6 but I wanted to have a beananimal drain which made it something crazy like 20x6. I am very happy I went the the glass-holes because I will lose zero space in my footprint.

Centered or corner depends on personal preference and location in the room. Will people be viewing from the side that will house the corner overflow?

How's the noise on the glass-holes overflow? I really like the size but am leaning toward a full-height center overflow with two drains for a herbie system. I don't want the noise or the air bubbles in the sump.

[strendo]

Wow! Very Nice! Nice colors on all your Corals. How do you keep your tank so clean?

Thanks! Low phosphates & lots of flow

[Logzor]

How's the noise on the glass-holes overflow? I really like the size but am leaning toward a full-height center overflow with two drains for a herbie system. I don't want the noise or the air bubbles in the sump.

I'll let you know when I have the tank running. I hear the glass-holes overflows are pretty quite once they are tuned in. Going with a full height overflow could be more quiet but I'm not sure. The room that this will be going in has a lot of irregular surfaces that should suck up noise pretty well, so I'm not terribly concerned.

[steely185]

My rimless

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/2010-11-21byEye-Fi/IMG_1573.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/IMG_1587.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/2010-11-21byEye-Fi/IMG_1574.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/2010-11-01byEye-Fi/IMG_1502.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/2010-11-10byEye-Fi/IMG_1504.jpg

[Pallobi]

pretty awesome Steely, mind if i ask dimensions? 4' x 18" x 12" ?

[canesfan44]

steely185,
Did you build the tank yourself?

[steely185]

48" x 18"x 10". I purchased it from a local reefer. The best I can tell is it's a glasscages build with glass overflow. Here is how it looked July 5th 2010.

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/IMG_0647.jpg

I'll try and add a cleaned up fts in the next couple days.

[steely185]

Cleaned up current FTS as of turkey day

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/2010-11-25byEye-Fi/IMG_1603.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/2010-11-25byEye-Fi/IMG_1604.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/2010-11-25byEye-Fi/IMG_1609.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/2010-11-25byEye-Fi/IMG_1610.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/2010-11-25byEye-Fi/IMG_1616.jpg

[canesfan44]

looks great

[sclaussen]

This thread is really terrific, it has helped me hone in on my new tank a lot. I am going to join the club - simple as that. I would like some advice (all opinions welcome) on what I'm considering:

Dimensions 48x24x20 or 48x22x20 Starphire Rimless

I have gravitated to the Elos 120 for two reasons:
1. It is beautiful design, super clean, and the right size for me.
2. Elos provides the entire system (my tank experience is very limited having just bought a 29g biocube 3 months ago).

Downside is cost, so I'm considering a few options:
a. Elos 120 tank, either buying the Elos cabinet or finding one locally, buying my own sump, skimmer, et al.
b. Miracles/AGE tank with the same dimensions, pre-cub holes, and a cabinet, sump, skimmer, separately.

I'm not considering building the tank or the cabinet myself; I'm interested in best of breed; but I also don't want to overpay.

Has anyone gone down this route and bought an Elos 120 w/a different cabinet, sump, skimmer, etc? How much work was it?

Has anyone gone down the Miracles/AGE route and had a tank designed that mimics the Elos tank style (internal corner overflow/return system)? How do I spec out the holes required (one overflow, two return?) and sizes, the right location, etc?

I see a lot of different T5 lighting options, 6, 8, 10 lights, different wattage, these Stealth systems, etc. Is there a definitive comparison guide somewhere that I can refer to that allows me to get a better feel for what would be right for my tank (it'll be mixed LPS/SPS/A few Fish).

And last question (for now!), has anyone had a lot of experience trying to find cabinets that were solid enough to hold the tank/water, and the sump, that weren't build by these aquarium companies, or is that just a useless line of thinking on my part?

Thanks,
Shane

[jkf1983]

This thread is really terrific, it has helped me hone in on my new tank a lot. I am going to join the club - simple as that. I would like some advice (all opinions welcome) on what I'm considering:

Dimensions 48x24x20 or 48x22x20 Starphire Rimless

I have gravitated to the Elos 120 for two reasons:
1. It is beautiful design, super clean, and the right size for me.
2. Elos provides the entire system (my tank experience is very limited having just bought a 29g biocube 3 months ago).

Downside is cost, so I'm considering a few options:
a. Elos 120 tank, either buying the Elos cabinet or finding one locally, buying my own sump, skimmer, et al.
b. Miracles/AGE tank with the same dimensions, pre-cub holes, and a cabinet, sump, skimmer, separately.

I'm not considering building the tank or the cabinet myself; I'm interested in best of breed; but I also don't want to overpay.

Has anyone gone down this route and bought an Elos 120 w/a different cabinet, sump, skimmer, etc? How much work was it?

Has anyone gone down the Miracles/AGE route and had a tank designed that mimics the Elos tank style (internal corner overflow/return system)? How do I spec out the holes required (one overflow, two return?) and sizes, the right location, etc?

I see a lot of different T5 lighting options, 6, 8, 10 lights, different wattage, these Stealth systems, etc. Is there a definitive comparison guide somewhere that I can refer to that allows me to get a better feel for what would be right for my tank (it'll be mixed LPS/SPS/A few Fish).

And last question (for now!), has anyone had a lot of experience trying to find cabinets that were solid enough to hold the tank/water, and the sump, that weren't build by these aquarium companies, or is that just a useless line of thinking on my part?

Thanks,
Shane

I have a 120 gal rimless starphire (48x24x24) glasscages tank and the starphire is definitely worth the extra money IMO... Miracles makes a great tank too and I think their edges are beveled. Either route you take I would highly recommend the floating overflow box, it takes up much less room in the tank. Also you will have to think about what type of over flow system you're going to use, durso, siphon, etc.... I have a siphon overflow which I am very happy with because its dead silent. But I needed 3 holes drilled, not the std two holes. One for the siphon drain (has a gate valve to match the return flow rate), one for the emergency drain and one for the return.

As for lighting, I am using an 8 bulb 48" powermodule and am very happy with it!

Another thing to consider which I didn't even think about is some fish are not going to be good in a rimless tank because they're known for jumping and will carpet surf. Such as wrasses and jawfish. So just a heads up. Good luck!
If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

[customdusty]

This thread is really terrific, it has helped me hone in on my new tank a lot. I am going to join the club - simple as that. I would like some advice (all opinions welcome) on what I'm considering:

Dimensions 48x24x20 or 48x22x20 Starphire Rimless

I have gravitated to the Elos 120 for two reasons:
1. It is beautiful design, super clean, and the right size for me.
2. Elos provides the entire system (my tank experience is very limited having just bought a 29g biocube 3 months ago).

Downside is cost, so I'm considering a few options:
a. Elos 120 tank, either buying the Elos cabinet or finding one locally, buying my own sump, skimmer, et al.
b. Miracles/AGE tank with the same dimensions, pre-cub holes, and a cabinet, sump, skimmer, separately.

I'm not considering building the tank or the cabinet myself; I'm interested in best of breed; but I also don't want to overpay.

Has anyone gone down this route and bought an Elos 120 w/a different cabinet, sump, skimmer, etc? How much work was it?

Has anyone gone down the Miracles/AGE route and had a tank designed that mimics the Elos tank style (internal corner overflow/return system)? How do I spec out the holes required (one overflow, two return?) and sizes, the right location, etc?

I see a lot of different T5 lighting options, 6, 8, 10 lights, different wattage, these Stealth systems, etc. Is there a definitive comparison guide somewhere that I can refer to that allows me to get a better feel for what would be right for my tank (it'll be mixed LPS/SPS/A few Fish).

And last question (for now!), has anyone had a lot of experience trying to find cabinets that were solid enough to hold the tank/water, and the sump, that weren't build by these aquarium companies, or is that just a useless line of thinking on my part?

Thanks,
Shane

The Elos route is a good way to go if you want an all-in-one like solution, but keep in mind it doesn't include tons of other support equipment that you will find that you need. For example, heaters, calc reactors, other reactors, RO/DI, powerheads, etc, etc. It just simplifies the plumbing, sump, tank, and stand decisions. The bottom line is that you'll need more stuff, a lot more stuff, that isn't included out of the box with Elos - and quite frankly, you can buy better equipment for equal or less money if you do things separately.

As far as overflows go, I'll never own another tank with an internal overflow, whether it is a corner or even the small glass holes one that I have. If you have the space and cost isn't that big of a deal, get an external horizontal overflow so there is NOTHING visible inside the tank. Acrylic overflows also get covered in coralline and just show their age over time.

Also, be careful about putting AGE tanks in the category with Miracles, you'll find out why when you get the quote. $$$$

Stands are an interesting animal in this hobby, there aren't too many off the shelf type solutions, most people will have them custom built to match unique tank sizes and home decor style. Using another type of furnture as a tank stand is ok with small tanks, but probably not advisable for larger ones.

With lighting, you'll find that people swear by each and every type of light out there. You have to decide what look you like and what is important to you, and then come to a solution on your own. I can help you along with that should you need it, but I think it's something to discuss outside this thread.

[gillies]

Set up for a week.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/Gillies66/IMG_5689.jpg

[SWINGRRRR]

Can I play too? I'm sure its buried somewhere in this thread, but how far down do most run on a rimless? I'm am shooting for 1 1/4" but not sure.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o184/SWINGRRRR/Cube/Cube.jpg

[henrystyle]

48" x 18"x 10". I purchased it from a local reefer. The best I can tell is it's a glasscages build with glass overflow. Here is how it looked July 5th 2010.

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/IMG_0647.jpg

I'll try and add a cleaned up fts in the next couple days.
Nice shallow tank. Sump looks bigger than the tank. lol

[JG1]

Been running for 3 weeks now without lights. Will be going ZeoVit on this tank and will add the zeo reactor next week along with the basic 4. Still need to add the two vortech's and program them to my WXM module.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/IMAG0159.jpg?t=1292084987

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/IMAG0161.jpg?t=1292087023

[SunnyX]

My 3rd miracles tank, this time a much larger Rimless , will be arriving this coming week!
72*36*22 starphire.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/SunnyX_photo/wsonny.jpg

[slovan]

Aside from the Elos 120XL, I added a 40 gallon frag tank. It's a 3-sided starfire tank from Miracles.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/slovan01/cd3b3e8e.jpg

[Texsun]

Aside from the Elos 120XL, I added a 40 gallon frag tank. It's a 3-sided starfire tank from Miracles.
]

Slovan, that's a great looking frag tank. How did you hide the AI cables.

[HiImSean]

mine, yet to be setup 18x18x18 25g Mr. Aqua
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r152/HiInSean/fish/IMG_3678.jpg

[slovan]

How did you hide the AI cables.

Texsun, I used cable covers and zip ties. From the picture, you can see where I used zip ties on the rail towards the back. Then the light rack was black so it is easy to conceal the zip ties. :)

[WhoDey64]

Checking in x3

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k403/WhoDey64/dfe892c8.png

[mudskipper1]

Whodey64, that setup is ridiculous...incredible~

[WhoDey64]

Thanks mudskipper. :)

It's in that lovely diatom stage at the moment.

[SunnyX]

The eagle has landed! :D :D :D

Im gonna have fun scaping this bad boy! Detachable overflow skin for easy cleaning.

Miracles Rimless Shallow Starphire Reef(72Lx36Wx22H)
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/SunnyX_photo/DSC_0249-1.jpg

Bullet Proof Starphire!
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/SunnyX_photo/DSC_0243-2.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/SunnyX_photo/DSC_0239-2.jpg

External coast to coast overflow.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/SunnyX_photo/DSC_0238-1.jpg

Build thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1922169

[Jay4Robin]

My New Elos 160XL
This week I fill with water and do my rock work.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s53/Jay4Robin/fulltankphoto.jpg

[Baldwin]

48" x 18"x 10". I purchased it from a local reefer. The best I can tell is it's a glasscages build with glass overflow. Here is how it looked July 5th 2010.

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/steely185/IMG_0647.jpg

I'll try and add a cleaned up fts in the next couple days.

I'm very interested in your sump design, do you have any current pics,and the idea of the design, as well as maybe a walkthrugh of the waterflow?

[Baldwin]

The Elos route is a good way to go if you want an all-in-one like solution, but keep in mind it doesn't include tons of other support equipment that you will find that you need. For example, heaters, calc reactors, other reactors, RO/DI, powerheads, etc, etc. It just simplifies the plumbing, sump, tank, and stand decisions. The bottom line is that you'll need more stuff, a lot more stuff, that isn't included out of the box with Elos - and quite frankly, you can buy better equipment for equal or less money if you do things separately.

As far as overflows go, I'll never own another tank with an internal overflow, whether it is a corner or even the small glass holes one that I have. If you have the space and cost isn't that big of a deal, get an external horizontal overflow so there is NOTHING visible inside the tank. Acrylic overflows also get covered in coralline and just show their age over time.

Also, be careful about putting AGE tanks in the category with Miracles, you'll find out why when you get the quote. $$$$

Stands are an interesting animal in this hobby, there aren't too many off the shelf type solutions, most people will have them custom built to match unique tank sizes and home decor style. Using another type of furnture as a tank stand is ok with small tanks, but probably not advisable for larger ones.

With lighting, you'll find that people swear by each and every type of light out there. You have to decide what look you like and what is important to you, and then come to a solution on your own. I can help you along with that should you need it, but I think it's something to discuss outside this thread.

Interested in seeing which one is typically more expensive? I'm getting quotes at the moment.

[canesfan44]

Interested in seeing which one is typically more expensive? I'm getting quotes at the moment.

Make sure to get a quote from Reef Savvy. I was going to get an Elos until I got a quote from Reef Savvy. I had them build me the tank and custom sump and I built the stand myself.

[Logzor]

Here is my new rimless from Miracles, 150g 3/4" starphire (48x30x24). Sump was also custom built by them.

I have an MP60 attached to the glass for reference.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/353/1/d/miracles_2_by_logzor-d357agx.jpg

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/353/3/1/miracles_4_by_logzor-d357alc.jpg

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/353/b/d/miracles_3_by_logzor-d357aj4.jpg

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/353/b/f/miracles_1_by_logzor-d357aef.jpg

[Anemone0524]

that's a beauty logzor. an mp60 is going to blow the fins off your fish in that size tank!! :) good dimension choice - 48" will give you plenty of lighting options and 30" of depth is going to make all the difference for aquascaping.

How did you find the build quality of Miracles?

[Logzor]

that's a beauty logzor. an mp60 is going to blow the fins off your fish in that size tank!! :) good dimension choice - 48" will give you plenty of lighting options and 30" of depth is going to make all the difference for aquascaping.

How did you find the build quality of Miracles?

Yeah I'm really curious to see what happen with the MP60! Hopefully I can run it such that I won't need any other powerheads. I think it only ends up being 50x turnover, I usually run higher than that. Perhaps it will have wide enough flow that I can get away with just the MP60.

Regarding the build quality, I really don't have a lot to compare it to but I think the build quality is superb. Everything looks fantastic. I'll be able to tell better when the tank is up and running with water/lights.

[geaux xman]

very nice logzor! badass looking sump too.

what are your plans with the 4 drilled holes on the bottom?

[Logzor]

very nice logzor! badass looking sump too.

what are your plans with the 4 drilled holes on the bottom?

I changed my mind on overflows after the holes were already drilled. I decided to go with glass-holes overflow because there is no footprint in my tank, just on the back glass.

I was going to put in a 2 drain/1 emergency drain overflow (can't think of the name at the moment) but it was going to be gigantic so I nixed it.

I am VERY glad I went with glass-holes it will give me a ton more room to work with.

Perhaps in the future they will be used for a closed loop or something. For now they will be plugged. On a side note, do the plugs screw all the way into the bulkheads? I can't seem to screw them in very far at all....notice in the pictures how far they still stick up.

[adamfajge]

Personally since I have an MP-40 in my 46 gallon and still have less flow on the opposite side of the tank I think you should have went with 2 Mp-40 then 1 MP-60. You will have much less flow on the other side. Nice looking tank anyway.

[Logzor]

Personally since I have an MP-40 in my 46 gallon and still have less flow on the opposite side of the tank I think you should have went with 2 Mp-40 then 1 MP-60. You will have much less flow on the other side. Nice looking tank anyway.

Yes you are correct but I figured it would be really cool to have an MP60. LOL

I've give an update how this ends up working out..

[jbanks]

+ 100 Beautiful tank logzor. Similar dimensions to mine. 2 Mp40s will definitely do the trick for you and you can place both on one side or on the back panel to get great flow all around the tank.

[Automatt]

Hey guy im doing a build on a 25 gal mr aqua cube and had a question. I have a 4 bulb t5 fixture. I have the hanging kit but am kind of short on time and patients with this project right now. I was wondering if any one had there light sitting on top of there rimless with the legs that some with the light. or is it dangerous to put the extra stress on rimless.

Thanks
Matt

[skh]

I changed my mind on overflows after the holes were already drilled. I decided to go with glass-holes overflow because there is no footprint in my tank, just on the back glass.

I was going to put in a 2 drain/1 emergency drain overflow (can't think of the name at the moment) but it was going to be gigantic so I nixed it.

I am VERY glad I went with glass-holes it will give me a ton more room to work with.

Perhaps in the future they will be used for a closed loop or something. For now they will be plugged. On a side note, do the plugs screw all the way into the bulkheads? I can't seem to screw them in very far at all....notice in the pictures how far they still stick up.

Hey Logzor, how's the glass-holes overflow treating you in terms of noise?

[jdm18honda]

well i just joined the club thanks to felix at reefsavvy down in miami fl
[img=http://imageshack.us/thumbnmail.png] (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/img5178f.jpg/)
[img=http://imageshack.us/thumbnmail.png] (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/img5177u.jpg/)
[img=http://imageshack.us/thumbnmail.png] (http://img547.imageshack.us/i/img5179t.jpg/)

the frag tank is a 20 tall
and the display tank is 60x24x18 120

[Logzor]

Hey Logzor, how's the glass-holes overflow treating you in terms of noise?

I'm still putting the stand together so I won't know for a couple of weeks. From what I have heard once they are running for a month or so they become near-silent.

[Automatt]

Just finished mine!
<a href="http://s128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/automatt/?action=view&amp;current=20101230202645.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/automatt/20101230202645.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/automatt/?action=view&amp;current=20101231163612.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/automatt/20101231163612.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[jasonw52]

Sweet setup firebretha!!

[SPotter]

Been running for 3 weeks now without lights. Will be going ZeoVit on this tank and will add the zeo reactor next week along with the basic 4. Still need to add the two vortech's and program them to my WXM module.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/IMAG0159.jpg?t=1292084987

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/IMAG0161.jpg?t=1292087023

JG,
I noticed you live in nj and I am getting to do a bigger build. I'm waiting to hear back from miracles on a tank with similar dimensions as yours. Do you have a build thread? I'd like to get your thoughts on the tank...likes and dislikes. I'm also considering the same light fixture as you.


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[canesfan44]

well i just joined the club thanks to felix at reefsavvy down in miami fl
[img=http://imageshack.us/thumbnmail.png] (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/img5178f.jpg/)
[img=http://imageshack.us/thumbnmail.png] (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/img5177u.jpg/)
[img=http://imageshack.us/thumbnmail.png] (http://img547.imageshack.us/i/img5179t.jpg/)

the frag tank is a 20 tall
and the display tank is 60x24x18 120



:thumbsup:Nice tank. I love seeing people other than Miami/South Florida locals ordering tanks from Felix at Reef Savvy. His tanks are second to none and when you combine that with his PR/customer service you are happy to see other people with a tank built by him, like myself.

[Jay4Robin]

2 weeks old.
moonlights just installed.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s53/Jay4Robin/nightphoto.jpg

[JG1]

JG,
I noticed you live in nj and I am getting to do a bigger build. I'm waiting to hear back from miracles on a tank with similar dimensions as yours. Do you have a build thread? I'd like to get your thoughts on the tank...likes and dislikes. I'm also considering the same light fixture as you.


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Steve,

No, I don't have a build thread. I'm pleased with the way the tank turned out. They drilled the wrong size holes for my return line bulkheads (1" instead of 3/4"), but I was able to find 3/4" bulkheads that would work with the larger hole. That's really the only complaint I have with Miracles...well Derek isn't too good with returning emails, but...

Quality of the tank is really good.

The Lights, I like a lot. The PM is really nice and I'm glad I went with it over the sunpower just for aesthetics.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. U can PM me if you like.

John

[jdm18honda]

:thumbsup:Nice tank. I love seeing people other than Miami/South Florida locals ordering tanks from Felix at Reef Savvy. His tanks are second to none and when you combine that with his PR/customer service you are happy to see other people with a tank built by him, like myself.

thanks i am very happy with the tanks and felix he is a great guy and his customer service is great and his prices are not to bad

[RobDMB]

JG,

Where did you get that stand? Tank looks great btw.

[JG1]

JG,

Where did you get that stand? Tank looks great btw.
Thanks!

It's just a standard Oceanic 120 tech stand that I bought at the LFS.

[Y-DesygnGuy]

Here is my 60 gallon starphire rimless tank I just finished getting set up this past weekend. I am still waiting on the light to be in stock so I can complete the shadow box for it.

http://www.y-desygn.com/60galloncube/complete.jpg

[imagex]

A local glass tank builder told be with 1/2" glass and a 24" height at a 48" length will most like seperate the silicon on the seams... i'm wondering if this is true? i'm going to get a 20" tall done with the dimensions 48"x24"x20" with 1/2" glass... should i worry? i'm not worried about his quality but worried about the fact that he is right on a 24" height and he was iffy about the 20" height.. but i see so many of you with 24" rimless tanks so i'm wondering are they using thicker glass to prevent bowing?? also whats the longest anyone has had a tank with 24" height and a 48" length? i'm looking for experienced answers not guesses from someone thats never had a rimless of that size or larger..

[epleeds]

I don't think you have anything to worry about as long as the builder knows what he is doing. SunnyX had a 48x24x20 set up for years with no issues. but his was made by Miracles and I have no idea who your having yours built by.

[imagex]

was his 1/2" glass?? the builder i'm using is using rtv 103 he's pretty good at building tanks he's done alot in the area i'm in and very good work.. but maybe i'll see what miracles can do and what they're price will be..

[imagex]

also just noticed miracles is in canada.. wonder how shipping is to the states..

[Theprettycolors]

Yeah I got it at a LFS in S. California called Amazing Aquariums & Reefs.

The dimensions are 36x30x20, the stand was skinned by a friend who does concrete work.

http://rojoconcreteworx.com/



I might want some work done for my stand..

[midtownman]

i love these tanks!!,excuse me for being a lil ignorant i only skimmed through some pages but my question is with a screen top that will take away the look of it how can you have any type of wrasses or fish that's known to be jumpers?

[andyrm66]

well i just joined the club thanks to felix at reefsavvy down in miami fl
[img=http://imageshack.us/thumbnmail.png] (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/img5178f.jpg/)
[img=http://imageshack.us/thumbnmail.png] (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/img5177u.jpg/)
[img=http://imageshack.us/thumbnmail.png] (http://img547.imageshack.us/i/img5179t.jpg/)

the frag tank is a 20 tall
and the display tank is 60x24x18 120

I dig the overflow. Who built the tank? Is the back wall PVC or acrylic? Give us more info!!!

[jdm18honda]

I dig the overflow. Who built the tank? Is the back wall PVC or acrylic? Give us more info!!!

reef savvy built the tank it is all 1/2 glass front three are iron. i just finished setting it up last night and will be downloading more pictures soon the overflow is a herdie/beananimal overflow with 3 1.5pvc pipes

[jdm18honda]

http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/jdm18honda23/?action=view&current=IMG_5204.jpg
http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/jdm18honda23/?action=view&current=IMG_5211.jpg
http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/jdm18honda23/?action=view&current=IMG_5212.jpg
http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/jdm18honda23/?action=view&current=IMG_5218.jpg
http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/jdm18honda23/?action=view&current=IMG_5231.jpg
http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/jdm18honda23/?action=view&current=IMG_5245-1.jpg
http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/jdm18honda23/?action=view&current=IMG_5246.jpg
http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/jdm18honda23/?action=view&current=IMG_5244.jpg

[tinygiant]

anyone know if 8ftx2ftx15" is possible rimless?

[Y-DesygnGuy]

I finally finished my 60 gallon rimless, I got the light hung this week.

http://www.y-desygn.com/60galloncube/final_product.jpg

[Logzor]

A local glass tank builder told be with 1/2" glass and a 24" height at a 48" length will most like seperate the silicon on the seams... i'm wondering if this is true? i'm going to get a 20" tall done with the dimensions 48"x24"x20" with 1/2" glass... should i worry? i'm not worried about his quality but worried about the fact that he is right on a 24" height and he was iffy about the 20" height.. but i see so many of you with 24" rimless tanks so i'm wondering are they using thicker glass to prevent bowing?? also whats the longest anyone has had a tank with 24" height and a 48" length? i'm looking for experienced answers not guesses from someone thats never had a rimless of that size or larger..

I believe there is an equation they do to determine if the tank will be stable. Every quote that I have ever had used 1/2" glass for a 20" tank and 3/4" for a 24" tank. I think you will be perfectly fine with 1/2" glass on a 20" tank.

[SawdustInTank]

Y-DesygnGuy,
Very nice tank. I like the modern stand and canopy. Are you runnig an AI led fixture in the canopy and are those glass panes for the doors? Also, how far from the edge is the water line? Thanks.

[Y-DesygnGuy]

Y-DesygnGuy,
Very nice tank. I like the modern stand and canopy. Are you runnig an AI led fixture in the canopy and are those glass panes for the doors? Also, how far from the edge is the water line? Thanks.

Thank you, I am using a single AI Sol Blue for lighting, it is 12.5" from the water line. Yes those are smoked glass doors and the water line is 3/4" from the rim. This is my first time building anything even close to this, I am not a DIY person. But I had a vision for the tank and I took my time and I think it came out nice.

[canesfan44]

Thank you, I am using a single AI Sol Blue for lighting, it is 12.5" from the water line. Yes those are smoked glass doors and the water line is 3/4" from the rim. This is my first time building anything even close to this, I am not a DIY person. But I had a vision for the tank and I took my time and I think it came out nice.

It came out very nice.:thumbsup:

[powerlogix]

I finally finished my 60 gallon rimless, I got the light hung this week.

http://www.y-desygn.com/60galloncube/final_product.jpg

Really nice tank, and picture shot. How are powering the light?, from the angle I can't see where the cord would be.

[fishflorist]

my tank is 59inch long, 31.5inch wide and 25.6inch high, total.

glass (ultra clear glass) is 15mm thick， bottom is 19mm . water level around 58-60 cm.

simple brace on the top, as this picture

http://cmfish.com/bbs/attachments/month_1102/11020114482cc1276b90343c5d.jpg

but not this normal type as following picture
http://cmfish.com/bbs/attachments/month_1102/110201144863c93c0eaaa1627a.jpg

the brace is 10mm thick glass, and 8cm wide.

please help me calculate is this tank safe enough ? Thanks a lot !

[CalmSeasQuest]

Here's my contribution - It's a work in progress (currently cycling)

12 Gal "Puzzle Rock" Desktop Nano

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0192.jpg

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0196.jpg

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0203.jpg

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0204.jpg

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/2011-01-21-162335.jpg

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0210.jpg

Sorry for the cloudy water, substrate had just been added. The build thread is available here (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1962399)

[Y-DesygnGuy]

Here's my contribution - It's a work in progress (currently cycling)

12 Gal "Puzzle Rock" Desktop Nano

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0192.jpg

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0196.jpg

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0203.jpg

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0204.jpg

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/2011-01-21-162335.jpg

http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/tconwell/Nano%20Contest/DSC_0210.jpg

Sorry for the cloudy water, substrate had just been added. The build thread is available here (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1962399)

Very nice Tom, how many tanks do you have? ;)

[CalmSeasQuest]

Very nice Tom, how many tanks do you have? ;)

Thanks Y-DesygnGuy,

Just 3 ;) BUT... I really like the ratios on this 3' Nano. I'm thinking about an 8 footer built as a room divider :D

[Y-DesygnGuy]

Where did you pick up the tank up at, its a great size.

[CalmSeasQuest]

Where did you pick up the tank up at, its a great size.

It's a Mr. Aqua 12 gallon long - I bought it through Marine Depot.

[tinygiant]

if i built a 8ftx2ftx15"

do think i could do it rimless if i used 3/4" glass for the sides? or do you think i could get away with 1/2?

[TriggerHappyDude]

Yes you are correct but I figured it would be really cool to have an MP60. LOL

I've give an update how this ends up working out..

Can't wait to see some updated pics of your tank Logzor.
Especially interested in all the equipment you've bought to run this tank.
I've never set one up from a custom build, last tank I had was a Current USA Solana tank, so it was all built in etc...I'd like to see what it takes to get one of these bigger bad boys running.

Great start so far.

[dpx88]

man need to hop in this club

[kgk]

I think it's been 8 months since I posted in here, so here are some new pictures of my shallow rimless reef. It is 4'x2'x16" deep with LEDs. You can click on them for bigger versions.

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_fts2.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/fts2.jpg)

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_tank_high_left.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/tank_high_left.jpg)

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_tank_high_right.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/tank_high_right.jpg)

[SawdustInTank]

Can I join the club? I finally got the tank on the stand tonight. I made the stand last weekend. My goal is to have a mixed reef with mostly LPS and some SPS. The tank dimensions are 36" x 30" x 16" 75gallon +/-. I hope to transfer everything over from my 65RR this weekend. Thanks.
<a href="http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/dlindesey/?action=view&amp;current=041.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/dlindesey/041.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[canesfan44]

Can I join the club? I finally got the tank on the stand tonight. I made the stand last weekend. My goal is to have a mixed reef with mostly LPS and some SPS. The tank dimensions are 36" x 30" x 16" 75gallon +/-. I hope to transfer everything over from my 65RR this weekend. Thanks.
<a href="http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/dlindesey/?action=view&amp;current=041.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/dlindesey/041.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Nice job on the stand. It looks great.

[canesfan44]

I think it's been 8 months since I posted in here, so here are some new pictures of my shallow rimless reef. It is 4'x2'x16" deep with LEDs. You can click on them for bigger versions.

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_fts2.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/fts2.jpg)

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_tank_high_left.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/tank_high_left.jpg)

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_tank_high_right.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/tank_high_right.jpg)

Tank looks great. I love your MaxSpects.

[bubb]

I think it's been 8 months since I posted in here, so here are some new pictures of my shallow rimless reef. It is 4'x2'x16" deep with LEDs. You can click on them for bigger versions.

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_fts2.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/fts2.jpg)

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_tank_high_left.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/tank_high_left.jpg)

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_tank_high_right.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/tank_high_right.jpg)


That is awesome. What kind of tank and where did you get it?

[SawdustInTank]

Canesfan44,
Thanks!

[Brwestern]

Can I join the club? I finally got the tank on the stand tonight. I made the stand last weekend. My goal is to have a mixed reef with mostly LPS and some SPS. The tank dimensions are 36" x 30" x 16" 75gallon +/-. I hope to transfer everything over from my 65RR this weekend. Thanks.
<a href="http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/dlindesey/?action=view&amp;current=041.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/dlindesey/041.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Like the tank, where'd you get it from?

[amheck]

Looks like it might be a Reef Saavy?

[madcowz]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/bcnewburn/2010-12-30_18-18-05_579.jpg

[SawdustInTank]

Brwestern,
Thanks! I bought the tank from Rickys Reef on Bird Road.

Amheck,
I had asked if it was a Reef Savvy but was told it was not. I was told another manufacturer made it. It does not have the signature Reef Savvy sticker on the front pane.

[SawdustInTank]

KGK,
Nice tank! How do you like the 16" height? With the sand bed depth and the water line clearance from the top of the tank, what is your usable water depth?

[eastcoaster1]

Really like the stand, especially the black toe kick and top. Gives it a contemporary look that compliments the tank.
Can you give any details? Materials?

[kgk]

That is awesome. What kind of tank and where did you get it?

It's a Glasscages tank, with Starphire on the front & sides. I ordered it through them & had it delivered to Houston.

[kgk]

KGK,
Nice tank! How do you like the 16" height? With the sand bed depth and the water line clearance from the top of the tank, what is your usable water depth?

I like it quite a bit. It's easy to light, easy to work in, and I really enjoy viewing it from above. There's about 13 1/2" of water or so in there, after sand + clearance at the top.

[SawdustInTank]

Really like the stand, especially the black toe kick and top. Gives it a contemporary look that compliments the tank.
Can you give any details? Materials?

Eastcoaster1,
Thanks! The inner frame work of the stand is made from 3/4" x 4" strips of plywood that is lined with white plastic laminate. The beige color material on the outside is Formica plastic laminate #7747-58 Pencil Wood. The black trim is 1x4 poplar painted satin black. I have had stained and painted stands in the past and wanted to try a plastic laminate stand. The salt creep on the stained and painted stands was a pain to keep clean. I figure this time with the laminate it will be alot easier.

[Giglamesh]

i shall be joining this on sunday :)

[SawdustInTank]

I like it quite a bit. It's easy to light, easy to work in, and I really enjoy viewing it from above. There's about 13 1/2" of water or so in there, after sand + clearance at the top.

KGK,
Cool! This weekend I will fill the tank for the first time. I am interested in seeing how much usable space I have. I have some live rock that I really like that I want to transfer from my 65rr. The only thing is some are tall peices. With the aquacaping that I have in mind, I hope it works out. Thanks.

[goreefers]

Been running for 3 weeks now without lights. Will be going ZeoVit on this tank and will add the zeo reactor next week along with the basic 4. Still need to add the two vortech's and program them to my WXM module.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/IMAG0159.jpg?t=1292084987

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/IMAG0161.jpg?t=1292087023

JG1,

I really like your light hanging fixture, can you please provide more info regarding where I can get one to hang my light

thanks

[JoshuaG]

Here is my custom. 48x30x20. Built the stand and light fixture myself, lighting is T5/LED hybrid.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/g6t6o/a7211d7e.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/g6t6o/63aa6866.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/g6t6o/5e88182b.jpg

[wurking_girl]

These are some beautiful tanks...! I think I've read the whole thread now (!) and although some of my questions about stocking have been addressed, I havent' seen anything on keeping motile invertebrates in a rimless tank. Is their 'motility' more of an issue in a rimless than in other types of tanks? :spin1: I don't see many shrimp/snails/etc. in the pictures, but they may be hidden (or busy working)...you know how they are!

I'm very tempted by a rimless as I love the look and the pendant lighting options. Thanks for some great pics and reading!

[JG1]

JG1,

I really like your light hanging fixture, can you please provide more info regarding where I can get one to hang my light

thanks

cadlights artisan series lamp tree.


sprayed it satin black

[goreefers]

cadlights artisan series lamp tree.


sprayed it satin black

That helps, thanks JG1!

[hairy_frogfish]

Guys,
I am hesitating to buy a rimless tank. I love the look, but will it last as long as the reinforced ones?
Do we know what is the oldest rimless tank still operating?

Thanks for the info, I want to be member of this club!!!!!!

[canesfan44]

Guys,
I am hesitating to buy a rimless tank. I love the look, but will it last as long as the reinforced ones?
Do we know what is the oldest rimless tank still operating?

Thanks for the info, I want to be member of this club!!!!!!

I don't know what the oldest is on here, but I know a guy here in South Florida that has had an Elos for more than 7 or 8 years. I think it has been that long since he got it, but I'm not 100% sure. I know the tank I have, I expect to last a long time. It's 20" x 20" x 18" and it is .5" glass, made by Reef Savvy. I don't know of any tanks that small using .5" glass. I don't know for sure if using the .5" glass will make it stronger, but common sense tells me that the extra contact area for the silicone should make it stronger, but science and physics can be in complete opposition to common sense, and I've learned plenty of things in physics and science classes in the past that made me think, "How is that possible? It doesn't make sense. That goes against logic and everything I've ever learned."

[drw94]

Just picked my GlassCages 60 cube rimless up today. It has starfire on front and sides, and rear overflow. Very happy with the construction. Kinda worried after reading some bad post about them. The tank is gonna be mainly SPS. I have a 20 gal DIY sump, with precision marine redline 100 skimmer. Looking into Avast or Geo Calcium reactor. Already have pfo 250 de 15k xm mh for it. Gonna be running zeovit. I have to tear down my solana when I get the house tented and then set up the 60 with the inhabitant after. Will post pics as soon as possible. Also have a DIY stand in progress. Anyone use neoprene as padding under tank, and if so how thick do you think.

[Y-DesygnGuy]

Just picked my GlassCages 60 cube rimless up today. It has starfire on front and sides, and rear overflow. Very happy with the construction. Kinda worried after reading some bad post about them. The tank is gonna be mainly SPS. I have a 20 gal DIY sump, with precision marine redline 100 skimmer. Looking into Avast or Geo Calcium reactor. Already have pfo 250 de 15k xm mh for it. Gonna be running zeovit. I have to tear down my solana when I get the house tented and then set up the 60 with the inhabitant after. Will post pics as soon as possible. Also have a DIY stand in progress. Anyone use neoprene as padding under tank, and if so how thick do you think.

I purchased a 60 gallon cube from them in October. So far so good, I see a few spots they could of done a better job on. Over all the tank is pretty nice, you should be very happy.

[CrazyPuy]

Hello All! It's still pretty early in my build but I guess I just joined over the weekend!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/CrazyPuy/Fish%20Tank/IMG_0002.jpg
18x18x12 3 pane starfire tank! It's still under construction but the main build thread is at http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1969898

I can't wait to start this hobby again! =]

[reefkeeps]

2 weeks old.
moonlights just installed.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s53/Jay4Robin/nightphoto.jpg

Nice, do tell how did you get moon lights on the pendants?

[drw94]

Good to hear that about glass cages. It should be a great tank once it is up and running. The plan is to switch of in april after the house is tented. Just got done making a purchase at aquarium specialty. What a great company so far, good customer service. Plus they don't charge sales tax when shipping to california, saved me 100 bucks

[tinygiant]

i am currently saving to get a 8ftx2ftx15" tank from glasscages.. they quoted $1000 for it rimless or 650 eurobraced (thinner glass)

I'm almost to the halfway point on saving :) waiting to see what the price increase will be for starfire glass.. eek

[TriggerHappyDude]

I got out of the hobby about a year ago, as I had a new born son and my photography hobby was escalating to more than a hobby, I couldn't handle all 3 so aquariums was the one that got the boot...but I promised to be back one day.
And I will...the promise holds true.

I'm still not ready to come back with the tank I want, so I'm just lurking and studying the different tanks that are coming up, and keeping up with the new technologies that arise in the time I'm out of the hobby.

I will go rimless again, I had a 34g Solana tank and thats what I sold when I got out of the hobby. I want to go bigger this time, 150g + and rimless with sump/refug etc...stuff I didn't really have last time around.
My motto this time is Go Big or Go Home. Well, not TOO big...lol...I'll save the real BIG for the Public Aquariums.

So looking at the rimless tanks via photos on here, my favorite aquarium manufacturers are AGE, ELOS, and Miracles...ELOS being a top of the line favorite, AGE being another top of the line but more affordable option, and Miracles being the most affordable option. Granted, all these are expensive options in the sizes I'm wanting, but all good quality too.

So please don't mind me lurking and throwing out questions here and there to you all!
I will have a tank on here eventually...

[coseal]

my second entry!
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb130/coseal/009-8.jpg

here is a link to the build thread.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1968463

[summitwynds]

I've joined the club

http://www.summitwynds.com/reef/roomshot.jpg

[SawdustInTank]

Thats an interesting color stand! I like it!! Is it turquoise? Bead board doors? Nice!!!!

[summitwynds]

Thats an interesting color stand! I like it!! Is it turquoise? Bead board doors? Nice!!!!

Thanks! My husband made the stand using the template found here on RC threads - Yes, Bead board doors - I painted the stand to match the only painted wall in our guest room -- Other 3 walls are logs/windows. Went with turquoise to go with our "caribbean souvenirs and photos" (Im a travel agent).

Room shot:
http://www.summitwynds.com/reef/roomshot2.jpg

Don't mind the donuts in the tank. Im waiting on some corals and found the donuts are a good way to be able to move them around if they don't like the LEDs. I'm also putting a background behind the tank. Its a 1/16" piece of acrylic with a cling on background I made using the gradient colors from the wall but with a scene that will give it some dimension (I also am a graphic design). Im not sure if I will screw the sheet onto the wall or maybe make a light box for it. Got the acrylic today, waiting on the printed vinyl cling on. The good thing is if I don't like the cling on, I can just design another and put it on the acrylic.
http://www.summitwynds.com/reef/background.jpg

[DannyW]

love these tanks, is there a calc to work out thickness of glass for a rimless tank?

[mudskipper1]

For Acrylic
http://www.regalplasticsupply.com/aquarium.htm

Glass:
http://www.theaquatools.com/building-your-aquarium

[KJAhp098]

Hey guys, I'll probably be ordering my rimless pretty soon and I have a couple questions.

Dimensions will be 48x30x22

I'd like to use the glass holes overflow. Would the 750 gph or the 1500gph overflow work better? Can Miracles integrate the glass holes overflow in their tanks? I'll be sending out my rfq to them pretty soon and would like to get everything down in the first email...or is it better to call them? Thanks.

[KMP]

Time to share; pics by iPhone so apologies in advance...

- LeeMar 44x22x16, 3 sides starphire, angled corner overflow
- Elos Planet II, [2] 150 MH x [4] 39W T5
- BubbleKing Mini 160
- 2 MP40W
- Profilux Stand Alone Doser


http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/KMPerkins_album/12789fe2-1.jpg?t=1297704429


http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/KMPerkins_album/5428464a.jpg?t=1297704470


http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/KMPerkins_album/79fd32ec-1.jpg?t=1297704567


http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/KMPerkins_album/947d7f6d-1.jpg?t=1297704625


http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/KMPerkins_album/3bf43a5d.jpg?t=1297704661

[canesfan44]

Very nice pics, I love that red Acan

[wwu123]

Don't mind the donuts in the tank. Im waiting on some corals and found the donuts are a good way to be able to move them around if they don't like the LEDs.


Are those captive bred donuts or wild-caught? I only sanction the use of propagated donuts for reefing purposes...

[summitwynds]

Are those captive bred donuts or wild-caught? I only sanction the use of propagated donuts for reefing purposes...

LOL -- The donuts are captive bred.... from The Filter Guys

[DGlove904]

Hey guys, I'll probably be ordering my rimless pretty soon and I have a couple questions.

Dimensions will be 48x30x22

I'd like to use the glass holes overflow. Would the 750 gph or the 1500gph overflow work better? Can Miracles integrate the glass holes overflow in their tanks? I'll be sending out my rfq to them pretty soon and would like to get everything down in the first email...or is it better to call them? Thanks.

Dont know about them, but Reef Savvy can.

[teacherthomas]

Most shops in asia use 12mm glass for 48X24X24" rimless tanks. If less then 24" high definately no problems.


A local glass tank builder told be with 1/2" glass and a 24" height at a 48" length will most like seperate the silicon on the seams... i'm wondering if this is true? i'm going to get a 20" tall done with the dimensions 48"x24"x20" with 1/2" glass... should i worry? i'm not worried about his quality but worried about the fact that he is right on a 24" height and he was iffy about the 20" height.. but i see so many of you with 24" rimless tanks so i'm wondering are they using thicker glass to prevent bowing?? also whats the longest anyone has had a tank with 24" height and a 48" length? i'm looking for experienced answers not guesses from someone thats never had a rimless of that size or larger..

[canesfan44]

Dont know about them, but Reef Savvy can.

and you won't be disappointed with the quality of their tanks. Absolutely top notch. They even have an exclusive custom overflow box that is a collaboration between Reef Savvy and glass holes.

[teacherthomas]

How is the custom one different from the original glass-holes? Is it just a custom price? or are there design differences inside?

and you won't be disappointed with the quality of their tanks. Absolutely top notch. They even have an exclusive custom overflow box that is a collaboration between Reef Savvy and glass holes.

[collie man]

I finally get to join!

My Artisan Cube

[DGlove904]

I was told it has a return built inside of the overflow box.

How is the custom one different from the original glass-holes? Is it just a custom price? or are there design differences inside?

[jpun1]

Like the LEDS looking to do something similar. What are you running? Thanks!

I think it's been 8 months since I posted in here, so here are some new pictures of my shallow rimless reef. It is 4'x2'x16" deep with LEDs. You can click on them for bigger versions.

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_fts2.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/fts2.jpg)

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_tank_high_left.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/tank_high_left.jpg)

http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/thumbnails/tn_tank_high_right.jpg (http://txexile.org/new_tank/1feb11/tank_high_right.jpg)

[kgk]

Like the LEDS looking to do something similar. What are you running? Thanks!

Those are 2x Maxspect 110W G2 fixtures with 90* optics. The tank is 4'x2'x16". I have changed some of the LEDs to get a warmer color as well.

[canesfan44]

Those are 2x Maxspect 110W G2 fixtures with 90* optics. The tank is 4'x2'x16". I have changed some of the LEDs to get a warmer color as well.

Your tank looks great and I like the color you have with your MaxSpects. I'm going to be replacing 3 whites with 3 Cree blues and the optics kit on my 160w.

[kgk]

Your tank looks great and I like the color you have with your MaxSpects. I'm going to be replacing 3 whites with 3 Cree blues and the optics kit on my 160w.

Thanks. I don't have the 30W LEDs to contend with, but I removed 11 of the Cool White LEDs & the 4 Violet LEDs on each fixture, and replaced them with 7 Lux Rebel Neutral White, 4 Lux Rebel Blue, and 4 Lux Rebel Royal Blues.

The lights are hung about 7.5" above the tank.

[SawdustInTank]

<a href="http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/dlindesey/?action=view&amp;current=010.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/dlindesey/010.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
Update time. I finally got some water in it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[coseal]

looks great sawdust! got a build thread going?

[skh]

Update time. I finally got some water in it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, SawDust, that's a gorgeous setup! It would be awesome if you put up a build thread. I'd love to see how you put together that stand and what you used for the panels.

[SawdustInTank]

Coseal and SKH,
Thanks for compliments, I appreciate it!!! Unfortunately I didnt take alot of pictures while making the stand. I will take pictures of my complete set up shortly. The whole stand is made of plywood finished with plastic laminate. This time around I was aiming to make a reef journal versus a build thread from scratch. I will get things going as soon as I figure out how to take better close up pics with this point and shoot camera I have. Thanks again.

[liz62]

I am having a 96L x 20w x 18H being made as I write this.

The tank is rimless and the glass is 1/2" thick. No euro bracing at all.

What do you guys think?

[Squidhead9]

I just found this thread. Wanted to post some pics of my Zeroedge (hope that qualifies as a rimless.

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[collie man]

That's awesome. How much do you clean your glass? And how do you get the outside so clean

[deepseanige]

I just found this thread. Wanted to post some pics of my Zeroedge (hope that qualifies as a rimless.



Not that very nice! Looks like you have your water level right to the top?

[liz62]

I am having a 96L x 20w x 18H being made as I write this.

The tank is rimless and the glass is 1/2" thick. No euro bracing at all.

What do you guys think?

Anyone?

[collie man]

Not that very nice! Looks like you have your water level right to the top?

Thats because the water flows over the top and flows down over the sides to the reservoir.

[collie man]

Anyone?

It sounds like its going to be an awesome time aquascaping.

Not even a lower brace around the bottom edge on the inside?

[liz62]

It sounds like its going to be an awesome time aquascaping.

Not even a lower brace around the bottom edge on the inside?

Thanks - no the builder of the tank said it wasn't necessary?

I just wanted to get everyone's thought on this to avoid a tank break once it is filled. I really trust this builder but a few people have questioned the the glass size so I thought I should ask?

[mike810]

I am having a 96L x 20w x 18H being made as I write this.

The tank is rimless and the glass is 1/2" thick. No euro bracing at all.

What do you guys think?

Wow, will you have some center bracing at least? Being 96L I would think you'd need at least one center bracing to avoiding bowing or stress at the center of the tank.

[liz62]

Wow, will you have some center bracing at least? Being 96L I would think you'd need at least one center bracing to avoiding bowing or stress at the center of the tank.

Apparently not needed?

[Patrick Cox]

I'm a member! :D

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[canesfan44]

I'm a member! :D

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Looks great. what are the tank's dimensions, and what MaxSpect unit are you using?

[Squidhead9]

I shut off the main pump every couple days and then just clean the outside with a soft pad. Takes maybe five minutes. I clean the inside daily with a soft pad. As long as I stay on top of it, it only takes a few minutes a day. That's awesome. How much do you clean your glass? And how do you get the outside so clean

[Squidhead9]

It goes over the edge into a gutter which surrounds the tank and then down into the sump.

Here's some pics of the gutter and the flow over. Have to watch out for runaway snails though. :strange: Not that very nice! Looks like you have your water level right to the top?

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[Squidhead9]

I'm just starting to work through this thread from the start. Any good ideas on how to keep the fish in the rimless tanks.

[paal]

20g Elos Mini

http://www.saltvannsforum.no/foto/data/847/medium/FTS5.jpg

[yikesjason]

I love the rimless tanks. You must have to have that zero edge spot on level. Was it difficult to get an even flow over all of the sides?

[Squidhead9]

I had my own stand built with leveling feet. Took about 15 minutes to get it spot on.

I think a big part of the reason these tanks have a bad rep is that the manufacturer does a very poor job of giving advice on how to set up and maintain them. THey are great tanks and not any more time consuming than any other comparable sized tank once you have them set up right. But it took me about a year to solve all the problems I had with it and the company wasn't much help.I love the rimless tanks. You must have to have that zero edge spot on level. Was it difficult to get an even flow over all of the sides?

[Enjoy]

Here is my 120g rimless:

http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac20/EnjoyReefin/0a4560c7.jpg

http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac20/EnjoyReefin/202fd3fc.jpg