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alien9168 04/01/2006 09:37 AM

OHHH.
Thats awsome.
I forgot that the tank was a peninsula.

Sorry dude. ;)

THats pretty cool.

Do you have any furniture around the tank now.

To go fishwatching ;)

-alien

Sanjay 04/01/2006 02:57 PM

WOHOOO !! Tank is being built... now I better hurry and get ready for it.

Here is the picture of the overflow glued to the back pane. The other smaller overflow box in the picture is not mine.

sanjay.


http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...k/overflow.gif

alien9168 04/01/2006 03:10 PM

Cool man!

I like the looks of that overflow! :)
I cant wait to see pics of the back attached to the
rest of the tank! :)

-alien

Phantom Phish 04/02/2006 11:25 AM

I like the design of your tank (I think your overflow is bigger than a lot of people's display tank :) ).

Are you going to put a piece of black acrylic or something along the front side of your overflow, so you can't see the plumbing in there?

alien9168 04/03/2006 03:55 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7095028#post7095028 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Phantom Phish
I like the design of your tank (I think your overflow is bigger than a lot of people's display tank :) ).

Are you going to put a piece of black acrylic or something along the front side of your overflow, so you can't see the plumbing in there?

Definatly bigger than my display ;)

-alien

Sanjay 04/05/2006 11:47 AM

Here is another picture that I just got from Will.. that shows the rest of the tank. The back pane with the overflow mounted will attach to this. It does not look big here.

sanjay.


http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...eingbuilt1.JPG

sanjay.

GSchiemer 04/05/2006 11:56 AM

That's all there is to it? :)

Greg

jnarowe 04/05/2006 12:01 PM

That looks like a nice sump! Just kidding Sanjay!!! :D

sixxer 04/05/2006 12:04 PM

Looking good Sanjay, can't wait to see it up on a stand to get the full effect

alien9168 04/05/2006 03:45 PM

I still think its bigger than my display :lol:

jacob30 04/05/2006 04:51 PM

Looking good! I am getting my tank from Will at the end of april. The sooner he finishes yours then he can start on mine. ;)
Keep posting some pics of the tank.

alien9168 04/05/2006 05:45 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7118887#post7118887 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jacob30
Looking good! I am getting my tank from Will at the end of april. The sooner he finishes yours then he can start on mine. ;)
Keep posting some pics of the tank.

Jacob- Make sure you post pics from will when you get yours ;)

Skipper 04/05/2006 08:39 PM

Holy molie!!! That's gonna be sweet, Sanjay. :thumbsup:

zooqi 04/05/2006 10:29 PM

We will try to get the stand to you tomorrow and it needs at least 4 people to carry it down from the truck. BMAC, FRED, ZOOQI, And Maybe Spoon. Pictures will be posted if we did not lose a finger carrying it :)
very nice tank there.

alien9168 04/06/2006 03:24 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7121338#post7121338 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zooqi
We will try to get the stand to you tomorrow and it needs at least 4 people to carry it down from the truck. BMAC, FRED, ZOOQI, And Maybe Spoon. Pictures will be posted if we did not lose a finger carrying it :)
very nice tank there.

Sounds cool dude! :)

alien9168 04/06/2006 03:24 PM

I cant wait to see pics of the beast...and good luck with the fingers ;)

Reef Man 04/06/2006 05:10 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6531711#post6531711 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sanjay
Ok.. now that the holidays are over.. its time to get back to the tank. After some discussions with Will at Aquarium Obsessed I have tweaked the design a bit. Here is what it going to look like.
Had to put a brace for the back wall, but I still wanted my external overflow box.. so the desgin will have 2 large cutouts in the back glass and leave enough room for attaching the brace. I also put in 2 extra 1" bulheads in the overflow box in case I wanted to feed a skimmer direclty via gravity or for any additional closed loop I may want to add later.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...tank-assly.gif

sanjay.

Sanjay,

It would be very nice if you can add the real dimmensions on that drawing if you don´t mind. I am planing a very similar tank like your design, and that will help me alot.

Very nice project !! :eek2:

steve68 04/06/2006 07:02 PM

did u read this form the begining?
it's on the first page.

Reef Man 04/07/2006 07:52 AM

You are right, sorry, I miss that.

GSchiemer 04/07/2006 10:59 AM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7126953#post7126953 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by steve68
did u read this form the begining?
it's on the first page.

It's also in the title of the thread. :)

steve68 04/07/2006 11:07 AM

true

Reef Man 04/07/2006 03:43 PM

No no, I mean the total dimmensions, including the overflow box, and that is not on the title.
I saw that in another picture Sanjay published.

Thanks.

alien9168 04/08/2006 10:31 AM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7132784#post7132784 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reef Man
No no, I mean the total dimmensions, including the overflow box, and that is not on the title.
I saw that in another picture Sanjay published.

Thanks.

Dont sweat the small stuff. Everyone makes mistakes :)

Sanjay 04/08/2006 02:04 PM

Almost getting there... down to the last few steps.

here are the latest pics.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...eingbuilt2.jpg


http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbj4/aqu...eingbuilt3.jpg

jnarowe 04/08/2006 02:28 PM

Wow...that's gonna be heavy!

moonpod 04/08/2006 02:30 PM

Looks very, very nice!

Sanjay 04/08/2006 03:05 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7138110#post7138110 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
Wow...that's gonna be heavy!
Yeah... based on my rough calculations using 10lb/sqft as a meaure.. tank should weight between 1000-1100 lbs. !!!! pray for my back and hope I still have friends left.

sanjay.

alien9168 04/08/2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7138267#post7138267 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sanjay
Yeah... based on my rough calculations using 10lb/sqft as a meaure.. tank should weight between 1000-1100 lbs. !!!! pray for my back and hope I still have friends left.

sanjay.

WOW! Use a back brace. Make sure you dont really hurt yourself! :)

Fergy 04/08/2006 03:50 PM

You're a professor. Don't you have students who are doing poorly and would be willing to help?

steve68 04/08/2006 05:35 PM

the tank looks so sweet !

JownsenJesus 04/08/2006 07:56 PM

Did I miss the thickness of glass used? Killer dimensions as everyone has stated!

Sanjay 04/08/2006 08:09 PM

The glass thickness is 3/4"

sanjay

Justjoe 04/08/2006 09:20 PM

Quote:

WOW! Use a back brace. Make sure you dont really hurt yourself! :)
A quick change from Prof Joshi to Photon Man and no problem. Its actually an easy lift for Photon Man... he'll be flying in with the stand in one hand, the tank in the other...
Good luck with the move!
Joe

kwl1763 04/08/2006 09:45 PM

That other overflow and back in the picture is mine. Now I know who has delayed my 450! It's shipping this week though :) Looks great.

What's the plan for the return pump? How much is going through the sump?

alien9168 04/09/2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7140344#post7140344 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justjoe
A quick change from Prof Joshi to Photon Man and no problem. Its actually an easy lift for Photon Man... he'll be flying in with the stand in one hand, the tank in the other...
Good luck with the move!
Joe

:lol:

Dont you wish everything was that easy.

But joe- I think even photon man would have a problem positioning your tank! ;)

RonBuck 04/09/2006 05:28 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7138110#post7138110 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
Wow...that's gonna be heavy!
Sanjay,

Will told me you were going to come up and help me load it on the truck. Or do I have to do this solo? hehehe Kidding, heavy is an understatement.

So is kwl1763's Tank. They are a couple beautiful tanks no doubt.

RichK 04/09/2006 06:00 PM

Tank looks great. I can't wait to come up and check it out.

mattydub 04/09/2006 09:07 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7138267#post7138267 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sanjay
Yeah... based on my rough calculations using 10lb/sqft as a meaure.. tank should weight between 1000-1100 lbs. !!!! pray for my back and hope I still have friends left.

sanjay.

even though we haven't talked in a while, I'm pretty sure my back (and my friendship) can help out!

Give me a call old man!

enamdjd 04/10/2006 04:40 PM

Professor: it looks good. Thanks for sharing.

Dr. A

asnatlas 04/10/2006 09:51 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7138267#post7138267 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sanjay
Yeah... based on my rough calculations using 10lb/sqft as a meaure.. tank should weight between 1000-1100 lbs. !!!! pray for my back and hope I still have friends left.

sanjay.

That does not sound right... My 600gal (96x48x30) on the shipping skid with a BK400 and a few other things in the tank was only like 1352lbs... I put the skid at like 150-200lbs and the BK at 50lbs and the misc stuff at like 15lbs... That would put my tank which is larger about 1100lbs...

cward 04/11/2006 06:01 AM

He did say "rough calculations" and "between 1000-1100 lbs".

Shawn, what size is your tank again???:lol:

Sanjay 04/11/2006 06:33 AM

Here is how I did my rough calculations:

Glass density: 2.6 g/cc (found this somewhere on the web)
which is about .07 lb/square inch, or 10.14 lb/square foot for 3/4" glass.

Computed the total surface area of the glass used - including overlfow box and eurobracing. I did not account for any dimension reductions due to overlap of edges or holes drilled etc (hence the approx). I would much rather make the error on the high side.

But just for kicks - going backward from your estimate.. my tank is only 1 ft shorter in length than your tank. So the only major difference would be the 48X12" reduction in area of the bottom glass+30X12" reduction on the front and back . This is a reduction of 1296 sq inches or 9 sq ft. So 9 sq ft X 10 lb.sq foot gives me 90 lbs. And 1100-90 = 1010 lbs.. within my "rough approximation" :D

sanjay.

cward 04/11/2006 06:39 AM

Not to mention the weight of the external overflow box.

alien9168 04/11/2006 06:43 AM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7154850#post7154850 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cward
He did say "rough calculations" and "between 1000-1100 lbs".

Shawn, what size is your tank again???:lol:

500g ;)

alien9168 04/11/2006 06:43 AM

I know you were being sarcastic btw :lol:

asnatlas 04/11/2006 09:19 AM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7154850#post7154850 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cward
He did say "rough calculations" and "between 1000-1100 lbs".

Shawn, what size is your tank again???:lol:

/sigh :(

Phantom Phish 04/11/2006 10:24 AM

Sanjay:

Thanks for the info on the weight of 3/4" glass, I've been looking for that to estimate the weight of a tank I'm considering. I'm thinking I might copy your design, but on a somewhat smaller scale (60" x 36" x 30" overall tank dimensions).

If you don't mind, what is the width of your eurobracing, and is that also 3/4" glass?

TIA

JCURRY@WESKETCH 04/11/2006 11:22 AM

Sanjay
I noticed you spec'd out true union ball valves on either side of all your pumps. That's a little overkill, you only really need single union ball valves on the pumps and unions on the plumbing to the reactors. Since you probably will never need to take the valve off the sump and really only need to remove the pump for servicing not the plumbing. The single union valves are much cheaper than true union valves.


Nice tank BTW

jnarowe 04/11/2006 11:43 AM

I disagree. There are times when you decide to change something etc. and need the other union. And I screwed up and put a single union on the outflow of my return pump, and it's on backwards. So when I remove the pump I get some water out of the return riser & manifold. It's not a lot, but had I used a true union there would be no problem. Sure it's a mistake I made, but a few more dollars and it wouldn't be a mistake!

What happened was I put the true union between the pump and the sump when that one should have gone on the return side. I may be able to swap them but I haven't looked into that yet. <ramble> but my point is it could have been avoided with a true union.:)

JCURRY@WESKETCH 04/11/2006 12:02 PM

Correct if you put the union side on the pump you wouldn't have that problem. If you used threaded bushings instead of slip (glue-in) you could easily correct your mistake and you could easily reuse the valves if the plumbing layout ever needs to be changed. But we all know that never happens! LOL

Single union valves $27 +/-
True union valves $34 +/-

$7 / valve x 9 = $63 savings on 2" valves alone

Granted not that much of a savings on a 500 gallon tank but being able to value engineer all the way through a project will add up in the end.

BTW I have true union valves between my sump and pumps and never in 10 years have I needed to take the valve off the sump. Its just one of those that erks me everytime I look at it.


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