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TheAquatect 01/04/2016 10:28 PM

260 gallon (96x24x26) reef and fish room upgrade
 
I’ve been patiently planning my next upgrade for a pretty long time and I am just dying to get a build thread going, share what I’ve come up with and get some feedback as I go! I am finally to the point where I am ready to order the tank and star acquiring equipment for the build. I am also going to be doing this in conjunction with a renovation project so it’s bound to be fun.

My current system is a 150g tall (48x24x30) in-wall tank with a glass-holes overflow and a tek 8 bulb T5, which has been up and running for a little over 3 years. I will be trying to figure out what to do with the tank and inhabitants since the in-wall tank sits in the fish room where the door needs to go. More on that idea later..

Here is a breakdown of the tanks and equipment so far:
Proposed Display Tank:
96”l x 24”w x 26”h ¾” glass, euro-braced
notched back external 1.5” bean animal overflow OR synergy reef 20” ghost overflow (TBD)

Display Tank Pumps:
Vectra L1 for main return
Maxspect Gyre XF150
4 ¾” Sea Swirls

Stand:
38” tall, built using 80/20 40mm t-slot extruded aluminum
Lighting:
4 kessil A360WE
6 54w T5

Sump/refugium:
Deep Blue Professional ADB11080 48”w x 24”d x 16”h 80g
Frag Tank:
Deep Blue Professional ADB18080 48”w x 24”d x 16”h 80g
Jebao RW-8 for circulation

Filtration:
SRO 5000ext
GFO and Carbon via 2 Two Little Fishies 150 reactors

Other equipment:
Neptune Apex to automate some control
2 95g vertical water storage containers for sw and ro storage and eventual automated water changes.
Jebao DP-4 Auto Dosing Pump (Alk, Ca, Mg, Vodka)

OK, on to the good stuff. I took the time to build a scale model of the DT room and the adjoining fish room to make sure I understood how it would look, what plumbing I needed, and what extra goodies I could fit ;)

Here is the first shot of our family room with the tank in its spot. I’m in love with the 8ft tank idea and while I was tempted to go 36” deep, I have been very pleased with my 24” deep 150g and I could not come out any further due to layout/wife restrictions. The hood and final design of the stand is TBD, I’m still trying to work on it. The door to the right is the entrance to the fish room.
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/...ps24rke0x3.jpg

Next up is the fish room. Forgive the “floating tanks,” I’m switching over the stand to 80/20 t-slot aluminum. The room is 6’ x 8.5’ has plumbing for a drain and hot and cold water, backs up to the garage for water storage, is adjacent to the DT. To the right is some cabinets, shelves and an extra deep sink. Back wall has the frag tank, sump and SRO 5000ext, which will be plumbed to the drain for overflow. Top-off will be via a 5g container under the sump and on the left wall will be the drain and return lines for the DT, valves for controlling flow and a board for the Apex controllers.
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/...psfflejnos.jpg

Here is a more direct shot of the sink and workstation.
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/...psssghbvjf.jpg

And of the plumbing wall. The white box on the right is the “SRO 5000ext” to make sure it fits.
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/...psbivwcyns.jpg

And finally, here is a shot of my current 150.
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/...psfz00bi7n.jpg

So, here is where I am at with this project as of tonight.
I am ordering the tank this week and have already ordered the lighting and Vectra L1 so I can start building out the fish room and have it ready to plumb into the tank when it is delivered.
I am now looking at the plumbing order for the schedule 80 valves and fittings and the 3d model has been VERY helpful in finalizing that plan.
I am planning on using schedule 40 pipe, painted red and blue with krylon.

I am sure I left out quite a few bits of detail but I welcome feedback on design, layout etc.. I also have to give props to one of my LFS, Drysdale Aquarium. I love supporting local businesses. I gave him my list of equipment before shopping online and ended up saving some $$! So support your LFS!

Cheers!

Zacktosterone 01/05/2016 09:32 AM

looks really good my friend

MrsReefK 01/05/2016 09:40 AM

Looks great!

TheAquatect 01/06/2016 07:55 PM

Thanks! Looks like I'll be ordering the tank in the next day or 2. Had one more request for an updated quote to go 30" high. Gotta embrace the addiction. lol

NeverlosT 01/07/2016 11:00 PM

That is gonna be awesome. I have seen tanks of that footprint in 24" high and 30" high side by side. The 30 inch depth is incredible to look at and makes the tank a real wall of life, but it is very tough to reach the bottom to fetch anything or work on it. The 24" depth is easier to maintain but when side by side it does seem to be "shallow" and less ocean like.

You really cant go wrong with either, just get thick glass or eurobrace it a bunch to prevent bowing!

I am planning a 300 right now along these lines. I will be following this build!

TheAquatect 01/08/2016 08:55 PM

Thanks. Welcome to the thread! I LOVE my 30" tall 150, but I HATE when I have to reach into it. I cant even reach the bottom if I need to but I know what you mean, height adds some nice scale. I've got rock work that spires up 23" and it still has plenty of room to the top. :) Should hear back tomorrow.

bigzman 01/08/2016 11:38 PM

I was wondering when you would start build thread. If you need any help let me know.

Following

TheAquatect 01/09/2016 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bigzman (Post 24239801)
I was wondering when you would start build thread. If you need any help let me know.

Following

Hey Z! Thanks, I figured it was good timing now that all the planning was done. Appreciate the offer, same goes for you and your build too.

Today was a good day, got my lighting and main pump in. This will go a long way to helping me design a nice hood/canopy and get the plumbing going. Patience is going to be really hard now! :rollface:

http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/...psihkppzh2.jpg

bigzman 01/12/2016 08:23 PM

Forgot to add I second great LFS "Doug and John at drysdale are awesome". are you keeping the 150?

Scythanith 01/12/2016 09:02 PM

Looks like a fun project. Congrats!

TampaSnooker 01/13/2016 08:43 AM

Thanks guys. We are as eager to see this project develop as Joe is. You've really done your homework and it will pay off.

bigzman 01/13/2016 08:55 AM

Doug do the LET t5 come with program start ballest? I am looking for t5 for 8 foot upgrade as well. I have to send you a list of items as well.

TheAquatect 01/14/2016 12:44 AM

So at this point I am mildly obsessing over contractor estimates to move some doors and do some renovations to get me to the fish room in the 3D model. It's all wrapped up in a bedroom/bathroom remodel and since my fish room was the closet for this bedroom/bathroom, a new one needs to be created and the original door moved into the main living area. Of course the door needs to go where my current 150 is, so I need to start tearing it down/move it some time soon. I am dreading this part.

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Originally Posted by bigzman (Post 24248649)
Forgot to add I second great LFS "Doug and John at drysdale are awesome". are you keeping the 150?

Still undecided. I might. It wont end up in this build though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scythanith (Post 24248751)
Looks like a fun project. Congrats!

Thanks! Welcome to the thread!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaSnooker (Post 24249590)
Thanks guys. We are as eager to see this project develop as Joe is. You've really done your homework and it will pay off.

You guys continue to be a great help indeed!

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Originally Posted by bigzman (Post 24249620)
Doug do the LET t5 come with program start ballest? I am looking for t5 for 8 foot upgrade as well. I have to send you a list of items as well.

Z, it does not. I also wanted program start to extend bulb life but rather than go with separate parts, I opted for the kits with the idea of swapping out the ballasts at some later time.

bigzman 01/14/2016 07:07 AM

If you keep the 150 I think it would make a great tank to replace the 55 planted :-)

toronto_discus 01/14/2016 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAquatect (Post 24230307)
I am now looking at the plumbing order for the schedule 80 valves and fittings and the 3d model has been VERY helpful in finalizing that plan.

Congrats on the new build. Which 3d model are you using?

TheAquatect 01/14/2016 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigzman (Post 24251817)
If you keep the 150 I think it would make a great tank to replace the 55 planted :-)

:thumbsup: Yep, been thinking about that, not sure about the weight on a second floor though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by toronto_discus (Post 24251865)
Congrats on the new build. Which 3d model are you using?

Thanks! I used sketchup for the entire model. Found just about every item I needed as an existing model to import.

jdantunes 01/15/2016 05:19 AM

Exciting build, man! I'm following....

Are you planning to use sand? I'm not a big fan of bare bottom.

What kind of corals is going to be the predominant species?

What made you decide using Kessil & T5? Have you decided which T5 color bulbs are you going to use?

Brando457 01/15/2016 06:37 AM

Did you order the tank already?

This is going to be a great and well thought out build. My only suggestion would be do 96 x 30 x 25. A friend had a similar tank and the extra 6" front to back made it really nice for aquascaping and provided a lot of additional room for swimming.

Tangs in an 8 ft tank are majestic and awesome! I'm jealous and tagging along.

TheAquatect 01/19/2016 11:07 AM

Have not ordered it yet. I sent the changes over to get re-quoted but it seems the drawing attachments never made it, then the long weekend hit so now I am waiting to hear back. I also asked about acceptable deflection rates and a few other things but hoping to get an answer back this week and order it. At this point I'm like "take my money already!" lol

TheAquatect 01/19/2016 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdantunes (Post 24254236)
Exciting build, man! I'm following....

Are you planning to use sand? I'm not a big fan of bare bottom.

What kind of corals is going to be the predominant species?

What made you decide using Kessil & T5? Have you decided which T5 color bulbs are you going to use?

Thanks! welcome to the thread.

I am planning on doing sand, about 1-1.5" max. It'll be a mixed tank, predominately heartier SPS like Monti's (caps, digitata, etc..) acans and a few zoanthids. I'll get some good frags from my 150 but with 8' I'll be looking to buy some nicer corals after I recover from the build expenses.

As for the lighting, what lead me to Kessil was the dense matrix led. When I started to look at LED (I'm currently all T5) I really noticed the disco ball effect of the lights and it was TOO spotty for me. Kessil seems to not have that problem by my eye. I also loved the shimmer, which is a close second to MH without the heat.

As for the T5, Im a devout fan and I think T5 does a better job with corals than LED alone. I have not fully decided which bulbs yet but ATI true actinic is certainly one of them. I've got quite a few bulbs so I will try the Purple+, Blue+ and the Aqua Blue Special (one of my favs) to see what combo compliments the Kessils without washing out the shimmer too much.

jdantunes 01/19/2016 09:01 PM

Thanks for the reply, man! I can't wait to see this...

Note to tank buider: "take his money already!!!"

anbosu 01/20/2016 06:48 PM

Always good to see a local build, I'll be following along!

winwar 01/29/2016 08:33 PM

Very nice

TheAquatect 02/05/2016 03:02 PM

Tank is ordered!!

Well between travel for work and trying to get a re-quote for a 30" tall tank (along with a few other questions). I ended up talking to Planet Aquariums direct and they were super helpful. Jerry @ Planet reviewed my design and even made some suggestion to help improve it, then got the quote out the same day since he knew there was some delays trying to communicate through the distributor.

End result, I finally got it ordered today and its officially a 300gal (96"L x 24"D x 30"H) from Planet Aquariums. 3/4" glass, euro-braced and a 20" synergy reef overflow. This is going to be a long wait!

bigzman 02/06/2016 12:25 PM

Nice, congrats. Look forward to it. You will love the 30 inche hight. More so if you have a bunch of schooling fish. Did they provided a ballpark to deliver? Will it be starphire?


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