Suggestions on Flow

John_A · 03/03/2010, 01:09 PM

As Most of you know I am setting up a 125 tank and just tossing around some ideas for flow and figured who better then to ask then The wonderful people of the MTRC. I would love to do some MP40s but not in the budget at the momment maybe later down the road. My idea Buy a few Maxijet1200s and doing the flow mod on them and putting them on some kinda wave maker but what do you guys think would be good?

eyebedam · 03/03/2010, 01:25 PM

For the price & it may drop some more now that the new models have come out, The Hydor,s are hard to beat for the price. You could go with 4-K4s or a K-7 with 2 K-4s.

poolkeeper1 · 03/03/2010, 01:54 PM

Nah, The New Sicce Voyager pumps (4 Models) are a much better choice IMO. They are controllable, Silent, Cheap compared to the Hydors. I already have one running since Jan and will add two larger models as funds allow.
Bill

John_A · 03/03/2010, 01:56 PM

How many of those would you recommend? 4?

poolkeeper1 · 03/03/2010, 02:17 PM

If you go with the larger #4 models I would start with 2-3 of those or maybe four for good wave making possibilities. Depends on your budget, You can always add more but taking them back can have Issues. JMO
Bill

John_A · 03/03/2010, 02:26 PM

Hmm 3 of these might be a good start and these can be hooked up to a wavemaker and not have problems right?

poolkeeper1 · 03/03/2010, 02:38 PM

I'm running mine on my RKL and turning on/off every 5 sec since I got It In January. Not on problem at all and Chris a the Critter sells them at a decent price, Plus he will stand behind all he sells no questions asked.
And yes three would be a good start, And you can play around with the settings/timeing for the best flow In the tank! Have fun the build Is 1/2 the fun
Bill

John_A · 03/03/2010, 02:42 PM

if you dont mind me asking how much are they selling for at the critter?

rcmike · 03/03/2010, 03:20 PM

I have always liked a lot of water flow. My sand is always moving. I have a mag 24 running through a closed loop with two outlets with eductors on both. I have a 1" SCWD on it and I have one outlet on each side of the tank blowing across to the other side. It switches slow enough that I get a good circulation going one direction before it changes to the other side. While it is transitioning from one side to the other I get flow from both outputs hitting each other and causing basically a very turbulent wave that goes from one side of the tank to the other. I have found that even LPS that people say don't like a lot of flow do very well. They may close up for a few days but when they come back out they do great.

poolkeeper1 · 03/03/2010, 03:24 PM

Off the top of my head I can't tell you, But you can call and get that Info from Chris.
Bill
PS they are way cheaper than any other controable pump around, Less than 1/4 of a small Tunze.

John_A · 03/03/2010, 03:39 PM

Well I thought About doing a closed loop just I've never drilled a tank And would totally hate to break my tank lol

gannmann9876 · 03/03/2010, 03:39 PM

do not get the k4s i bought two of them and they work on the wavemaker function of the rkl but they are very noisey i am going to pick up some of the sicce voyagers

rcmike · 03/03/2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by John_A

Well I thought About doing a closed loop just I've never drilled a tank And would totally hate to break my tank lol

I have mine going over the back. It is in the basement so it really doesn't matter if it doesn't look perfect. If I had it to do over I would definitely drill it though. It isn't hard, I cut a chunk out of the side of my tank to do an overflow. The thicker the glass the easier it is actually.

mapn4reef · 03/03/2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by poolkeeper1

Nah, The New Sicce Voyager pumps (4 Models) are a much better choice IMO. They are controllable, Silent, Cheap compared to the Hydors. I already have one running since Jan and will add two larger models as funds allow.
Bill

I have an RKL L3, how hard is it to program them to be controlled with it?

If easy enough, I may have a nearly new Hydor Wavermaker with 2 controllable K3s on the market soon...

poolkeeper1 · 03/03/2010, 05:11 PM

Hey, If I can do It anyone can program them LOL. I'm the Worst with computers so take my word for It. Ask any of the current RKE/RKL owners like Andy,Brandon and others and they will verift the simplicity.
Bill
PS Nothing against Closed Loops, But you would have to lay your tank On It's side to drill It and there Is always the risk of breaking the glass.
Plus I tried It once and I prefer Powerheads, Period...

John_A · 03/03/2010, 05:17 PM

Going over the top wouldnt be so Bad But the wife isnt gonna go for white pvc in the living room LOL

lotsoftats · 03/04/2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by John_A

Going over the top wouldnt be so Bad But the wife isnt gonna go for white pvc in the living room LOL

you can paint the PVC with Krylon fusion if the wife will not allow the white to be seen....it is reef safe my plumbing is painted with it...no problems.

John_A · 03/04/2010, 08:46 AM

This is True Im just trying to figure out if it would be good to use since the back will be exposed and I have 2 young kids that like to mess with things Most def would be cheaper..

poolkeeper1 · 03/04/2010, 05:47 PM

Not really, When you add the cost to drill, Plus the Pumps are on the high end (Pressure rated) and the Valves Unions and all the rest???
JMHO as I have been there and done that!
Bill

03/03/2010, 01:09 PM	#1
John_A Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portland TN Posts: 535	Suggestions on Flow As Most of you know I am setting up a 125 tank and just tossing around some ideas for flow and figured who better then to ask then The wonderful people of the MTRC. I would love to do some MP40s but not in the budget at the momment maybe later down the road. My idea Buy a few Maxijet1200s and doing the flow mod on them and putting them on some kinda wave maker but what do you guys think would be good?

03/03/2010, 01:25 PM	#2
eyebedam Is Sailing the Seas Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Juliet TN Posts: 2,039	For the price & it may drop some more now that the new models have come out, *The Hydor,s are hard to beat for the price. You could go with 4-K4s or a K-7 with 2 K-4s. __________________ "There are many things you can refuse to do with a man. You can refuse to work for him, dine with him, or talk to him. But if he wants to fight, you have to oblige him." --Pat Buchanon “I’ve always believed that America’s government was a unique political system — one designed by geniuses so that it could be run by idiots. I was wrong. No system can be smart enough to survive this level of incompetence and recklessness by the people charged to run it." Thomas Friedman, NY Times Current Tank Info: 180 Gal plumbed in the basement with 200 gal sump. Decided to go aggressive from this point on. Last edited by eyebedam; 03/03/2010 at 02:03 PM.*

03/03/2010, 03:20 PM	#9
rcmike Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dickson, TN Posts: 3,369	I have always liked a lot of water flow. My sand is always moving. I have a mag 24 running through a closed loop with two outlets with eductors on both. I have a 1" SCWD on it and I have one outlet on each side of the tank blowing across to the other side. It switches slow enough that I get a good circulation going one direction before it changes to the other side. While it is transitioning from one side to the other I get flow from both outputs hitting each other and causing basically a very turbulent wave that goes from one side of the tank to the other. I have found that even LPS that people say don't like a lot of flow do very well. They may close up for a few days but when they come back out they do great. __________________ Michael Current Tank Info: 110 oceanic, 2 Radion Pros, 2 MP40s, Apex controller

03/03/2010, 01:54 PM	#3
poolkeeper1 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 4,674	Nah, The New Sicce Voyager pumps (4 Models) are a much better choice IMO. They are controllable, Silent, Cheap compared to the Hydors. I already have one running since Jan and will add two larger models as funds allow. Bill

03/03/2010, 01:56 PM	#4
John_A Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portland TN Posts: 535	How many of those would you recommend? 4?

03/03/2010, 02:17 PM	#5
poolkeeper1 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 4,674	If you go with the larger #4 models I would start with 2-3 of those or maybe four for good wave making possibilities. Depends on your budget, You can always add more but taking them back can have Issues. JMO Bill

03/03/2010, 02:26 PM	#6
John_A Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portland TN Posts: 535	Hmm 3 of these might be a good start and these can be hooked up to a wavemaker and not have problems right?

03/03/2010, 02:38 PM	#7
poolkeeper1 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 4,674	I'm running mine on my RKL and turning on/off every 5 sec since I got It In January. Not on problem at all and Chris a the Critter sells them at a decent price, Plus he will stand behind all he sells no questions asked. And yes three would be a good start, And you can play around with the settings/timeing for the best flow In the tank! Have fun the build Is 1/2 the fun Bill

03/03/2010, 02:42 PM	#8
John_A Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portland TN Posts: 535	if you dont mind me asking how much are they selling for at the critter?

03/03/2010, 03:24 PM	#10
poolkeeper1 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 4,674	Off the top of my head I can't tell you, But you can call and get that Info from Chris. Bill PS they are way cheaper than any other controable pump around, Less than 1/4 of a small Tunze.

03/03/2010, 03:39 PM	#11
John_A Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portland TN Posts: 535	Well I thought About doing a closed loop just I've never drilled a tank And would totally hate to break my tank lol

03/03/2010, 03:39 PM	#12
gannmann9876 Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lebanon Tn Posts: 255	do not get the k4s i bought two of them and they work on the wavemaker function of the rkl but they are very noisey i am going to pick up some of the sicce voyagers

03/03/2010, 05:11 PM	#15
poolkeeper1 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 4,674	Hey, If I can do It anyone can program them LOL. I'm the Worst with computers so take my word for It. Ask any of the current RKE/RKL owners like Andy,Brandon and others and they will verift the simplicity. Bill PS Nothing against Closed Loops, But you would have to lay your tank On It's side to drill It and there Is always the risk of breaking the glass. Plus I tried It once and I prefer Powerheads, Period...

03/03/2010, 05:17 PM	#16
John_A Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portland TN Posts: 535	Going over the top wouldnt be so Bad But the wife isnt gonna go for white pvc in the living room LOL

03/04/2010, 08:46 AM	#18
John_A Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portland TN Posts: 535	This is True Im just trying to figure out if it would be good to use since the back will be exposed and I have 2 young kids that like to mess with things Most def would be cheaper..

03/04/2010, 05:47 PM	#19
poolkeeper1 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 4,674	Not really, When you add the cost to drill, Plus the Pumps are on the high end (Pressure rated) and the Valves Unions and all the rest??? JMHO as I have been there and done that! Bill