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Old 10/06/2008, 10:27 PM   #1
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AUSTRLALIAN r0cksteady's attempted 8ft (500G'ish) Angelfish compatible REEF display

Hi All,

Am currently setting up an 8ft x 2.5ft x 2.5ft starfire reef tank to replace my current 5ft x 2ft x 2ft setup. Am planning to have the tank setup and 'wet' by FEB 09. The main time restraint is the fact that I have to setup temp 6ft tank seperately so that I can safely break down the 5ft without any mishaps and as I have two very fat and healthy mandarins I want to cycle the 6ft for as long as possible.

The only items left to buy is the actual Tank and am waiting for the controllable Tunze Turbelle Stream 2 to come out (DEC 08). I will purchase the display after I have the placement area 100% completed so that I dont have it sitting out in a shed or something begging to be scratched\damaged.

I have found much inspiration and direction in Anthony Calfo's "Book Of Coral Propagation", his advice is well balanced and respected.

Im trying to reduce maintenance and areas of failure to a minimum. Im trying to automate as much as possible not from a laziness point of view or going for wank features but just to also help reduce myself from being a point of failure in its operating as I am very much an elephant in a china store with these big sausage fingers of mine

LOCATION \ LAYOUT:

Heres a basic idea of the house layout and where Im planning on placing the tank. It will be replacing my current 5ft display and in order for me to have a smooth transition I will be setting up a 6ftx2ftx2ft at the other end of the lounge on the same wall. The wife is going to freak when im in the transitional phase of have both the 6ft setup and then the newly purchased 8ft side by side. lol.

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I will also be using our current cupboard which stores our hotwater service and ducted heating by gutting the lot and putting in such things as a sink\shelves\chiller etc.

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Heres some basic designs of what im planning.

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Old 10/06/2008, 10:27 PM   #2
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HARDWARE SETUP:

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DISPLAY TANK SPECS - TO BE PURCHASE LAST
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*8ft (96") x 2.5ft (30") x 2.5ft (30") - 1416 Litres / 374 Gallons

*Starphire Glass \ Low-Iron (front, sides and top ie bracing, wier)

*Polished Edges

*Black Silicone - Will pay extra for extra clean\neat silicone

*Silent\Fail-Safe Siphon - BeanAnimal Design




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*Horizontal Wier\Overflow (Calfo Style) - See above \ combined with BeanAnimal Siphon.

*Bracing spaced out to maximize light placement

*DIY - Non Intrusive background from foam\liverock\egg crate incorporating hiding overflow, eel tunnel entrance & return pipe rather than painting glass blue\black. EG:


*Acrylic Eel tube against the side glass under DSB in rear left hand corner (large enough to fit magnetic glass cleaner)

*Copepod Haven's - I am going to make 3-4 containers out of gutter guard stuffed with coarse coral rubble.

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TANK STAND - CURRENTLY BEING CUSTOM MADE
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MATERIAL: Pine Base

FINISH: Painted gloss white

FRAME HEIGHT: 1050cm high

FEATURES:
*1 end door with switch board attached for easy access
*4 front doors (no door handles, concealed hinges)
*bottom skirting
*top skirting\fascia ontop of display tank
*water proofed
*doors sealed against light
*hard backing
*water channel routered into floor slowing spillage
*dual fan vents to assist with oxygen & reducing humidity
*built-in switch board with independent safety switches & power points for every device (approximately 30)

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EQUIPMENT
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SUMP:

5ft (60") x 2ft (24") x 2ft (24") Sump - 566.3 / 149.6 Gallons - PURCHASED - BAFFLE DESIGN TO BE FINALISED - Currently planned to have 5 sections divided into 1ft segments. From left to right it will be:

*Miracle Mud (8" DSB) & Macro Algae (One of two outlet split from wier\overflow return from display)
*Fine Coral Sand (8" DSB) & Live Rock
*Coarse Coral Rubble - 8" DSB
*Return Section
*Split Wier\Overflow Return & Equipment\Treatment Section. ie. Heaters, Skimmer, Carbon, Reactors etc.



FLOW:

4 x Tunze Turbelle Stream 2 (approx 12,000 l/h each) - ON HOLD UNTIL CONTROLLABLE TURBELLE STREAM 2 RELEASED.

Wavebox & Wavebox Extension - ON HOLD UNTIL CONTROLLABLE TURBELLE STREAM 2 RELEASED.


FILTRATION:

Ozonizer\Redox Controller (AquaZone Ozone Generator 200 Deluxe w/built-in controller & air dryer) + Single Air Pump- PURCHASED

Twin Air Pump w/two air stones for back in case of oxygen issues - PURCHASED

Skimmer (Reef Octopus Hurricane 4000 4X) - PURCHASED
Return Pump (SUNSUN Pentair Quite One Copy 10000L) - PURCHASED

Phosphate Reactor (MARINE SOURCES Calcium Reactor CR-150-6520) - PURCHASED

PH Controller (YongCheng Wier Pro) - PURCHASED


MISC:

c02 bottle - TO BE PURCHASED CLOSER TO TANK OPERATIONAL DATE

Chiller (Supreme Aqua 1.5 HP) + (SUNSUN Pentair Quite One copy 4000L Pump) - PURCHASED

Generator (GEN4500ES ie 4.5Kva) - PURCHASED

Heater 500W + Digital Controller (Mercury Aqua) x 2 - PURCHASED

Calcium Reactor (MARINE SOURCES Calcium Reactor CR-150-6520) - PURCHASED

JBJ Auto Top Off Controller - PURCHASED

JBJ C02 Solenoid Regulator inc Bubble Counter & Check Valve - PURCHASED

PAR Light Meter - PURCHASED

RO/DI - PSI-019B-DI - PURCHASED

UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) - 3x Sola 320 UPS (Im using the UPS's just to help against power fluctuations and also just as an extra safety measure. Each ups Will last approx 2 hours with either the return pump or two of the power heads plugged in). - PURCHASED


LIGHTING:

4 x CLB DE Pendant (Coralvue Lumen Bright Double Ended Pendant Reflection) - PURCHASED

Sump Light - 4FT Double T5 54W High Output - PURCHASED


PREPARATION WORK REQUIRED BEFORE SETUP:

*Upgrade home switchboard to safety switches - PURCHASED

*Get dedicated electrical phase installed just for marine setup - PURCHASED

*Install Baileys 3300 Litre (726G) Water Tank for storage of natural salt water - PURCHASED

*Seal salt water storage tank to ensure no light (stop algae) nor rain water can enter\ contaminate tank - PURCHASED

*Relocated Hot Water Service from planned equipment cupboard to outside laundry - PURCHASED

*Remove Ducted Heating Unit from planned equipment - Waiting for cold weather to disappear to gain wife approval

*Build Shelves\Cupboards\Sink\Plumbing in equipment cupboards. - PENDING ducted heating removal

*Install Chiller with vent into roof space \ outside - PENDING ducted heating removal

*Install RO\DI, Auto Top Off & Auto Water Changer - PENDING ducted heating removal

*Install & Configure Generator to automatically detect power failure and auto start. - PENDING EQUIPMENT CUPBOARD SETUP

*Setup 6ft x 2ft x 2ft as a temporary (approx 6 months) display for current 5ft x 2ft x 2ft live stock. - ARRIVES OCTOBER

*Break down 5ft x 2ft x 2ft display to make way for new 8ft setup. - PLANNED FOR JANUARY\FEBUARY


TO BE DONE AT MUCH LATER STAGE WHEN OUTDOOR RENOVATIONS COMMENCE:

*Setup current tin garden shed to incorporate a fish tank shed for the purposes of QT, frags and general fiddling.


PLANNED OPERATIONS:

*Water Parameters: Other than the obvious zero Ammonia, Nitrite, Phosphate and Nitrate I will be aiming for Salinity/Specific Gravity - 35ppt/1.026,

Temperature - 25-26ºC, Alkalinity - 10dKH, pH - 8.2 and Calcium - 450 mg/L.


STOCK:

Live Rock - Using the guide of 1.5lb per gallon which empty, the tank is approx 785.4 pounds = 356.251447 kilograms of live rock. I will only be using this as a rough guide and more going by a 'visual' process. I think its safe to say though that I would be going for at least 250Kg of live rock.

Substrate - Fine coral sand. Am intending to do a full 8" DSB in display


INTENDED FISH:

ANGELFISH
1 x Blue-Ring Angelfish (Pomacanthus annularis) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Potter's Angelfish (Centropyge potteri) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula)
1 x Regal Angelfish (Pygoplites diacanthus)
1 x Emperor Angelfish (Pomacanthus imperator)

BASSLETS
1 x Blackcap Basslet (Gramma melcara) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Royal Gramma (Gramma loreto) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

BATFISH (Would get a second one if I could source one that also ate prepared foods)
1 x Pinnate Batfish (Platax pinnatus) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

BLENNIES
1 x Jewelled Rockskipper (Salarias fasciatus)
1 x Ember Blenny (Cirripectes stigmaticus) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Bi-Colour Blenny (Ecsenius bicolor) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK (Would love to find a M/F pair)

BUTTERFLY FISH
1 x Copperband Butterflyfish (Chelmon rostratus)

CARDINALS
2 x Bangaii Cardinals (Pterapogon kauderni) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

CLOWNFISH
1 x Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris var) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
2 x Tomato Clownfish (Amphiprion frenatus) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

COWFISH
1 x Longhorn Cowfish (Lactoria cornuta) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

DRAGONETS
2 x Male/Female Pair of Green Mandarinfish (Pterosynchiropus/Synchiropus splendidus) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

EELS
1 x Zebra Moray Eel (Gymnomuraena zebra)

GOBIES
2 x Green Clown Goby (Gobiodon atrangulatus) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
2 x Yellow Clown Goby (Gobiodon citrinus)

HAWKFISH
1 x Flame Hawkfish (Neocirrhites armatus)

PSEUDOCHROMIS - DOTTYBACKS
2 x Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)

TANGS
1 x Blonde Naso Tang (Naso lituratus) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Sohal Tang (Acanthurus sohal)

WRASSE
1 x Harlequin Tusk (Lienardella fasciata) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

ZANCLIDAE (Would consider adding an extra 2 but am suss on too many variable that could go wrong)
1 x Moorish Idol (Zanclus cornutus - canescens) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK


IN MY WILDEST DREAMS - WISH LIST

These are either listed here because they are too hard to source, too hard to keep or not compatible with the above listed stock\setup. But they deserve an honorable mention for just being some of my favourite pictures

1 x Japanese Pygmy Angelfish (Centropyge interruptus)
1 x Clarion Angel (Holacanthus clarionensis)
2 x Blue Spot Jawfish (Opistognathus rosenblatti)
1 x Pineapple Fish (Monocentris japonica)
1 x Thorny-back Cowfish (lactoria fornasini)
2 x Spotted Garden Eel (Heteroconger hassi)
1 x Niger Triggerfish (Odonus niger)
1 x Blue Ribbon Eel (Rhinomuraena Quaestia)
2 x Catalina Goby (Lythrypnus dalli)
1 x Pistol Shrimp (Alpheus sp) - Paired with Goby
1 x Crocea Clam (Tridacna crocea)


CORALS:

Currently I have the following but I am intending to base all future coral choices around potential angel nippers like the one I already have so will be relying on people like yourselves to offer suggested 'low risk' coral choices to attempt.

HARD CORALS
1 x Favia sp - Not sure if its got a common name
1 x Red Lobed brain coral (Lobophyllia spp)
1 x Hammer Coral (Euphylla ancora)

SOFT CORALS
1 x Green Star Polyps (Pachyclavularia sp)
1 x White Striped Star Polyps (Pachyclavularia sp)
1 x Finger Leather Corals (Sinularia spp)
1 x Leather Coral (Sarcophyton spp)
1 x Finger Leather Coral (Cladiella sp)
2 x Pink Carnation Coral (Scleronephthya sp.)
1 x Red Carnation Coral (Dendronephthya spp.)
1 x Purple\Liquorice Carnation Coral (Dendronephthya spp.)
2 x Spiny Sea Rod (Muricea elongata)
2 x Obese Sea Pen(Cavernularia obesa)

NON-CORALS
10 x Green Corallimorphs \ Mushroom Polyps (Discosoma sp.)
7 x Red Corallimorphs \ Mushroom Polyps (Discosoma sp.)
3 x Blue Corallimorphs \ Mushroom Polyps (Discosoma sp.)
1 x Rock of Green Zoanthids (Protopalythoa spp)


INVERTERBRATES:

STAR FISH \ SEA STAR - Most of these were offloaded onto me (not by choice) from a fellow reefer who took down his tank.
1 x Large Blue Sea Star (Linckia laevigata) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Large Spotted Sea Star (Nardoa SP) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Small Red Sea Star Starfish (Linckia laevigata) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Small Purple Sea Star (Linckia laevigata) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Med Purple Sea Star (Linckia laevigata) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 X Med Black Brittle Star (Ophiocomina nigra) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

SHRIMP
4 x Peppermint Shrimp (Lysmata wurdemanni) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
2 x Coral Banded Shrimp (Stenopus hispidus) - (Mated pair, rare variant of yellow bellies with blue legs) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

CRABS
2 x Anemone Crab (Neopetrolisthes spp) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Dwarf Hermit Crabs - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

ABALONE
2 x Abalone (Haliotis spp) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

SEA CUCUMBERS
1 x Sand Sifting Sea Cucumber (Holothuria hilla, Thymiosycia hilla) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

SNAILS - Will be using the rough guide of 1 snail per 25 gal = 15 in display, 7 in sump
6 x Banded Trochus Snail (Trochus sp) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
6 x Turbo Snails (Turbo sp) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Tiger Cowrie (Cypraea tigris) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Evil Black Nocturnal???? Cowrie - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
Zounds x Large Stomatella Snails (Stomatella varia) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

ANEMONES
2 x Med Green Bubble Tip Anemone (Entacmaea quadricolor) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Large Rose Bubble Tip Anemone (Entacmaea quadricolor) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK

CLAMS
1 x Squamossa Clam (Tridacna squamossa) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK
1 x Bright Blue Squamosa (Tridacna squamossa) - TRANSFER FROM 5ft TANK


Wow that was an epic first post. Please feel free to critique, offer advice, thoughts, concerns etc especially as this is before Ive physically implemented any irriversible decisions.
Im looking at no expense spare when it comes to hardware etc so if there are other devices that you would suggest please let me know.

Thank-you to everyone for taking the time to read and respond. :thumbsup


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Old 10/07/2008, 03:26 AM   #3
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Amazing planning. Well done. I am intrigued by your idea for the horizontal weir / overflow.
Where did you get that idea from?

The reason I ask is I am ordering my tank this week (hopefully) and have not yet decided on hole sizes / placement for overflow / returns.

Do you have any link to docs about this? pro's and cons compared to common or garden overflows?

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Old 10/07/2008, 04:48 AM   #4
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Hi Conor,

If you look at the DIY section there's a few threads on the 'Horizontal Overflow \ Calfo Overflow'. Try here for starters: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...ighlight=calfo

The basic concept\benefit is that your focusing your weir to capture\export the thinnest part of the water thats more highly concentrated in nutrients. I highly recommend investing in Anthony Calfo's "Book Of Coral Propagation" its perfect for both beginners and experts and covers a lot of the various techniques\concepts people are attempting their tank builds to date explaining in very simple to understand language.

Also the BeanAnimal link is useful as it incorporates both the wier and a well designed durso.


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Old 10/14/2008, 10:04 AM   #5
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Looks like will be a great setup.

You like to plan well in advance > the only I see missing might be RO unit.


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Thanks Wayne, actually no I do have R/O, its up there as:

RO/DI - PSI-019B-DI - PURCHASED

In Australia we all buy from this guy (psifilters.com.au )as he offers all MASA members (Marine Aquarium Societies of Australia - www.masa.asn.au)

Thanks for taking the time to read my journal. Im excited and ready to go just waiting on these Tunze Streams to come in and im ready to go. Ive also purchased the temp 6ft Tank and am waiting for my cabinet maker to finish the cabinet.

So hopefully I will have a decent update soon.


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Old 10/14/2008, 05:51 PM   #7
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Great start, I am not even sure what to say...
I really enjoyed reading your plan! Should be a phenominal tank. Do you have any pics of your current setup?

One question though, Where do you get your figures of "one snail per 25 gallons"


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Old 10/14/2008, 07:09 PM   #8
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Thanks Jordan I certainly hope so I really dont want to have to feel like I want to start again like I did when I made all the mistakes I made on my 5ft.

I have a link to my old tank (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1318595) but as you can see from the pics I even failed to understand good live rock structure and coral placements.

Im not 100% sure on where I noted the snail rule it may have been the Calfo book I keep referring too but I was just really using it as a rough guide rather than a specific measure. Better to underabuse than overabuse.


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Old 10/14/2008, 07:42 PM   #9
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rocksteady, i love it, im building the same size but not sure about the starphire yet it may be too $$$! im gonna follow this one for sure. break your build down coz i want all the details

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your in melbourne to, nice, im in coburg. i had a look at the link to MASOV but there seem too be no events comin up? i didnt know there was so many reefers in melb. i`ll PM u soon. kev.


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G'day Kev loosley I believe in Australia Starfire\Low-Iron glass is about double. I was quoted a standard 8ftx2.5ftx2.ft approx $2300 where as starphire was $3500. In my opinion and obviously it depends on your $$$ situation I would rather pay an extra $1200 for something that you cant upgrade easily later on if you decided too, like you could if it was a skimmer. Plus Im planning on having this long term and if it means I had to wait another 6 months even, I would wait just to get it to all be perfect. Whats months of saving compared too a tank established for years.


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hey rocksteady,
why is the overflow not on the outside of the tank? at first i thought it was to save space behind the tank, but the bulkheads, 90`s etc would stickout close to the same distance. its a fair amount of tank volume you could save. what have i missed?


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Well due to the tank placement being against a main wall my wife would slay me if I allowed the tank to intrude more than the 2.5ft into the lounge room. I could have an external one if I dropped down to a 2ft deep (front to back) and have the wier externally but Im pretty confident with making my custom background I will be able to hide the whole lot completely.
The other problem over here is we seem to have very cautious tank builders and none of them seem willing to 'router\shave' a lip into the back top of the glass meaning unless you were going to drill lots of holes in the back glass to the overflow (forgetting that this would undo a lot of the calfo overflow concept) you would need to look at acrylic which over hear costs a truck load.


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ok, that extra 6" front to back is a must. cant wait to see your background, there are so many good jobs on this site to follow. my overflow will most likely will be 3xboxes on the backwall of different sizes i hope to make look like pillars


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Old 12/17/2008, 02:10 PM   #15
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Hi All,

I thought it was time for an update.

Ok so firstly, I have now setup the temp 6ft x 2ft x 2ft tank which is currently cycling (with two and a half boxes of fresh live rock) next to the 5ft. Everything worked out well in the end but a lot of stuff happened along the way too now change my mind on a few things. Rather than waste money on buying equipment for the 6ft (like i was going to) I decided to use a lot of the equipment from my intended 8ft setup.

As such my first issue was using the 10,000 l/h return pump vs the 25mm bulk heads. All I can say is it is lucky I went with the bean animal design as im having to use 2/3 bulk heads as a siphon. This has made me realise that for the 8ft I either need to have 6 holes drilled in the wier ie two sets of the 3 pipes OR get 32mm holes drilled which is probably what I will do. The tank is completely silent all the same but I dont have the extra failsafe option as was the original intention.

Second plan to change was the intended DIY background after speaking with some other reefers they pointed out that theirs the potential for dead pockets of air\water to form potentially causing major issues if they were ever to escape over the years. Plus as they pointed out 'why not just use live rock against the background, you could just use lots of small pieces and even fix them to the glass if required'.
Im not sure what others think of this or if theres a way you could help develop the idea but either way I would like to test them out on the 6ft while its cycling so feel free to throw in your 2 cents worth.

Third plan change was the eel tube, I really thought it would look great having say half an 75mm acrylic pip siliconed against the glass under the DSB for the intended zebra eel to live in but what I noticed was:

*It looked crappy\unnatural
*It raised the DSB by a LOT
*Potential issues with dead pockets \ water flow (if I was doing closed loop it would help)
*Could be a pain cleaning with algae growing against the glass due to house lights even though I intended the pipe to be large enough to fit a magnet glass cleaner down
*Acrylic isnt that easy to bend\shape meaning I would be limited in the bends to set degrees ie 90.
*The eel might not even like the idea

So I would love to hear from anyone else who has noticed personality\habit of their zebra in where it enjoys hanging out in addition to anyone thats added pipe to their display for the eel to stay.

When I first picked up the 6ft I thought 'oh know what the hell have I done, looking at the horizontal wier'. I thought it was quite intrusive and stood out like a sore thumb. All my mates who were with me thought I was a turkey for 'ruining' my tank. I thought 'oh well ill just see how it goes and then make up my mind on the 8ft'. Well what I can tell you is after painting the back glass black and with the combination of the black silicone used its almost completely invisible. And what I mean is that its much more subtle than a vertical wier where you cant actually see the wier at all when looking at the front. What I decided I would also do is get the wier tinted black on the 8ft just to add an extra layer of cover.

The other strange thing is when looking at the tank its actually quite cool just watching the wier have this constant thin waterfall effect going on from the side. Its completely silent and you cannot hear the water falling into the wier at all even with your ear near the water because its such a fine film of water going over the edge that its a smooth stream of water rather than a tumbling waterfall. It didnt take long for my non-fish nerd mates too see Calfo's point about it being a better way to export the nutrients as it only captures a fine film of water which is where the nutrients float too.

One thing I really like is that I had my return plumbing come through the floor of the display towards the back but only allowed it to potrude about 5 inches (which was covered after adding the DSB). What this means is that ive now got strong flow behind all my live rock pushing all detrish upwards rather than the normal 'powerhead' scenario having dead spots that actually put a lot of the food behind your rock to settle. This did mean that I had to plumb two 'one-way flat valves aka poppa valves' underneath the display to stop 'all' the water dumping into the display if the return its switched off but I think it will actually pay off in the end.

At the moment im just using spare lights, power heads, heaters etc as im only cycling the tank and not too concerned about the 'appearance' but next year when I get back from hols in Jan ill proceed to setup most of my intended 8ft equipment onto the 6ft.

I have plumbed one of the siphons directly into the skimmer which is working FANTASTIC not only am I saving power because its one less pump I need to buy but in addition I like the fact that I dont have to chew up any refugium critters by having to go through more than one pump (skimmer > return).

The skimmer is an absolute beast and im really looking forward to seeing how well it does when the rock peaks in its die off.

The guy I purchase my NSW in 3000L batches has been slowly putting his prices up even though fuel prices have been dropping so its inspired me to buy my own NSW collecting setup. Ive now got 2 black (not clear) IBC's that stored iodine on a farm and been well used for grey water the last 12 months, a 6.5 HP petrol fire pump and a dual axel tandem trailer on its way rated for 2 tonne. So this will give me a LOT of breathing space as I can now do regular water changes as much as I like and all its only going to cost me is a tank of fuel plus if I really really needed the money I could probably rent the setup out to others but will avoid this for the time being just to avoid any issues with whole legal side of stuff.

As far as the cupboard goes it has now been say 70% finished. Its tiled, water proofed, has a laundry trough, r/o unit in it, switch box and 40 power points. The only thing left for the cupboard now is a stand made for the 3ft frag tank to go above the laundry trough and some small shelves\cupboard\hooks etc to put my maintenance equipment. Other than that a fresh coat of paint to help seal it when im done.

This has also prompted me to review\change my intention for the SUMP as now I have found I actually dont need any of my equipment under the tank as I can have them all plugged into the equipment cupboard and plumb them straight into the sump through the wall.

My mate who is an airconditioner installer has made me a sheet metal insulated cover \ duct for my chiller and is coming over tonight to help me install it on the roof so over the next few days I should have this also plumbed down into the cupboard ready to go.

Ive also purchased two 240v solenoid which will be hooked up to my r/o unit and cold water tap in the cupboard enabling my auto top off to work automatically eliminating the need for a seperate container to auto top off from. Im going to have two solenoids with two seperate flot valves to give me extra safety at different heights that way if one float valve or solendoid gets stuck 'on' the other one will still be 'off'.

My brother in law the electrician has finished my generator and it is very very impressive. Basically if the power turns off to the tank the generator waits 2 seconds and then automatically switches and then once the mains power comes back on the generator switches back off.

Ive already popped the generators cherry last week when a car his a power pole outside our house and the power was down for 12 hours. I managed to run most of the house for the full 12 hours on one tank of fuel. VERY impressive.

Other than that im now just waiting for xmas to pass so I can purchase the last remaining products required to go.

HERES AN UPDATED SUMMARY OF THE HARDWARE SETUP:

HARDWARE SETUP:

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DISPLAY TANK SPECS - PENDING - WILL BE LAST ITEM TO BE PURCHASED
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*8ft (96") x 2.5ft (30") x 2.5ft (30") - 1416 Litres / 374 Gallons

*Starphire Glass \ Low-Iron (front, sides and top ie bracing)

*Polished Edges

*Black Silicone - Will pay extra for extra clean\neat silicone

*Silent\Fail-Safe Siphon - BeanAnimal Design


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*Horizontal Wier\Overflow (Calfo Style) - See above \ combined with BeanAnimal Siphon. Tinted Black

*Bracing spaced out to maximize light placement

*Copepod Haven's - I am going to make 3-4 containers out of gutter guard stuffed with coarse coral rubble.

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TANK STAND - PENDING BREAK DOWN OF 5FT DISPLAY
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MATERIAL: Pine Base

FINISH: Painted gloss white

FRAME HEIGHT: 1050cm high

FEATURES:
*1 end door (no door knob, concealed hinge)
*4 front doors (door knobs, concealed hinges)
*bottom skirting
*top pelmet ontop of display tank
*water proofed
*doors sealed against light
*hard backing
*water channel routered into floor slowing spillage
*dual fan vents to assist with oxygen & reducing humidity

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SUMP:

7ft (84") x 2ft (24") x 2ft (24") Sump - 566.3 / 149.6 Gallons - PENDING BREAK DOWN OF 5FT DISPLAY - BAFFLE DESIGN TO BE FINALISED - Currently planned to have 5 sections divided into 1ft segments. From left to right it will be:

*Miracle Mud (8" DSB) & Macro Algae (One of two outlet split from wier\overflow return from display)
*Fine Coral Sand (8" DSB) & Live Rock
*Coarse Coral Rubble - 8" DSB
*Return Section
*Split Wier\Overflow Return & Equipment\Treatment Section. ie. Heaters, Skimmer, Carbon, Reactors etc.


FLOW:

4 x Tunze Turbelle Stream 2 (6205's 5,000 - 22,000 l/h each) - ON HOLD UNTIL CONTROLLABLE TURBELLE STREAM 2 RELEASED.

Tunze Turbelle Stream 2 - 7096 Multicontroller ON HOLD UNTIL CONTROLLABLE TURBELLE STREAM 2 RELEASED.

Wavebox & Wavebox Extension - PURCHASED


FILTRATION:

Ozonizer\Redox Controller (AquaZone Ozone Generator 200 Deluxe w/built-in controller & air dryer) + Single Air Pump- PURCHASED

Twin Air Pump w/two air stones for back in case of oxygen issues - PURCHASED

Skimmer (Reef Octopus Hurricane 4000 4X) - PURCHASED

Return Pump (SUNSUN Pentair Quite One Copy 10000L) - PURCHASED

Phosphate Reactor (MARINE SOURCES Calcium Reactor CR-150-6520) - PURCHASED

Denitrator (MARINE SOURCES Nitrate Reactor CR-150-6520) - PURCHASED

PH Controller (YongCheng Wier Pro) - PURCHASED


MISC:

c02 bottle - TO BE PURCHASED CLOSER TO TANK OPERATIONAL DATE

Chiller (Supreme Aqua 1.5 HP) + (SUNSUN Pentair Quite One copy 4000L Pump) - PURCHASED

Generator (GEN4500ES ie 4.5Kva) - PURCHASED

Heater 500W + Digital Controller (Mercury Aqua) x 2 - PURCHASED

Calcium Reactor (MARINE SOURCES Calcium Reactor CR-150-6520) - PURCHASED

Phosphate Reactor (Reef Octopus PhosFusion 1500) - PENDING DELIVERY

JBJ Auto Top Off Controller - PURCHASED

JBJ C02 Solenoid Regulator inc Bubble Counter & Check Valve - PURCHASED

PAR Light Meter - Apogee Instruments Quantum Meter Dual Calibration PURCHASED

RO/DI - PSI-019B-DI - PURCHASED

UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) - 3x Sola 320 UPS (Im using the UPS's just to help against power fluctuations and also just as an extra safety measure. Each ups Will last approx 2 hours with either the return pump or two of the power heads plugged in). - PURCHASED

FOR NSW COLLECTION:

2 X 1000L IBC Containers for NSW collection PURCHASED

1 x Water Pump 6.5HP 1000 L /Min Petrol 4 Stroke Cara PURCHASED

1 x Dual Axel Tandem Trailers rated for 2 tonne PURCHASED


LIGHTING:

4 x CLB DE Pendant (Coralvue Lumen Bright Double Ended Pendant Reflection) - PURCHASED

4 x IceCap 250-MH Ballast PENDING AUSFRAGS GETTING BACK FROM XMAS HOLIDAYS.

4 x Phoenix 14,000K DE MH PENDING AUSFRAGS GETTING BACK FROM XMAS HOLIDAYS.

Sump Light - 4FT Double T5 54W High Output - PURCHASED


PREPARATION WORK REQUIRED BEFORE SETUP:

*Upgrade home switchboard to safety switches - DONE

*Get dedicated electrical fuse\line installed just for marine setup - DONE

*Install Baileys 3300 Litre (726G) Water Tank for storage of natural salt water - DONE

*Seal salt water storage tank to ensure no light (stop algae) nor rain water can enter\ contaminate tank - DONE

*Relocated Hot Water Service from planned equipment cupboard to outside laundry - DONE

*Remove Ducted Heating Unit from planned equipment - DONE

*Build Shelves\Cupboards\Sink\Plumbing in equipment cupboards. - DONE

*Install Chiller on top of roof \ outside - CURRENTLY BEING DONE

*Install RO\DI, Auto Top Off & Auto Water Changer - CURRENTLY BEING DONE

*Install & Configure Generator to automatically detect power failure and auto start. - DONE

*Setup 6ft x 2ft x 2ft as a temporary (approx 6 months) display for current 5ft x 2ft x 2ft live stock. - DONE

*Break down 5ft x 2ft x 2ft display to make way for new 8ft setup. - PLANNED FOR JANUARY\FEBUARY

*Setup 3ft Frag Tank in cupboard connected inline with display

TO BE DONE AT MUCH LATER STAGE WHEN OUTDOOR RENOVATIONS COMMENCE:

*Setup current tin garden shed to incorporate a fish tank shed for the purposes of QT, frags and general fiddling.


PLANNED OPERATIONS:

*Water Parameters: Other than the obvious zero Ammonia, Nitrite, Phosphate and Nitrate I will be aiming for Salinity/Specific Gravity - 35ppt/1.026,

Temperature - 25-26ºC, Alkalinity - 10dKH, pH - 8.2 and Calcium - 450 mg/L.


STOCK:

Live Rock - Using the guide of 1.5lb per gallon which empty, the tank is approx 785.4 pounds = 356.251447 kilograms of live rock. I will only be using this as a rough guide and more going by a 'visual' process. I think its safe to say though that I would be going for at least 250Kg of live rock.

Substrate - Fine coral sand. Am intending to do a 6" DSB in display


CURRENT 6FT SETUP CYCLING WITH LIVEROCK:

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SIDE VIEW OF HORIZONTAL WEIR:

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Old 12/17/2008, 02:11 PM   #16
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CHILLER AND THE INTENDED BOX CURRENTLY BEING SETUP ON THE ROOF:

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ONE OF MY TRIAL 'POD HAVEN'S' MADE OUT OF GUTTER GUARD AND CORAL RUBBLE:

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MY BEAST OF A SKIMMER - LOVE IT!

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THE GENERATOR HOOKED UP TO AUTO KICK IN IF POWER GOES OUT AND TURN OFF WHEN POWER COMES BACK ON:

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THE 3300L STORAGE TANK USED TO STORE NSW FOR WATER CHANGES:

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CURRENT CUPBOARD SETUP AWAITING A FEW MORE ADDITIONS:

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Old 12/17/2008, 03:28 PM   #17
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Amazing. Great detail and cool pics.

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Old 12/17/2008, 05:23 PM   #18
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yeah this tanks is gonna be off the hook


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Old 12/17/2008, 09:20 PM   #19
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I can help you make some room if you send that street fighter cabinet to me...


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Lol thanks mate.

Its actually a MAME machine ie. I ripped the guts out and chucked in a pc with DOS and MAME. It runs identical to an arcade machine but has a menu with 4500 games to choose from. Its like pool tables and ping pong tables, you never play them when its at your house unless guest come over wanting to have a game.


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Just a minor update.

Collected sea water for the first time in my new trailer setup. Lets say it was semi-sucessfull. The good things were that my water pump filled both IBC containers (2000L) in 3 minutes and 45 seconds which was very impressive. The downside was that the springs and tires didnt enjoy 2 ton on top so I had to empty one of the IBC and only collect 1000L. Im now working on upgrading the springs and more likely go to light truck tires but at the moment 1000L is enough to get me by for about 5 weeks.

Ive have now paid for my 4x 250w ice cap ballasts and my 4x Phoenix 14,000K DE MH globes on their way thanks to ausfrags.

Im slowly migrating the rock and corals from the 5ft accross to the 6ft.

I have now installed the chiller on top of my roof and ran the pipes + electronic module in the equipment cupboard.

I am getting a quote this week on the glass for the 8ft and im sorting out the finer details of my stand with my friend the cabinet maker.

Everything is on schedule for having the 8ft web by march. Just waiting on these Tunze Stream 2's to hurry up and come out in Australia.

I was going to take photos but im not sure that my half empty display tanks and a chiller sitting on the roof was much to show off at the moment. I will certianly upload a pic of the chiller etc once its actively working which probably wont be until the 8ft is wet and cycling.

Thanks for taking the time to read my tank JNL. Its certainly exciting to finally be near the finish line.


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Ok got some good news and bad news.

The bad news is that my tank is going to be another 6+ weeks away (due to $$$) but the good news is because I managed to score a 'Small Blue Haddoni Carpet Anemone'. Unfortunately it was insanely overpriced and I do mean overpriced, so im dark at the person for charging me so much. It has always been something I wanted to source and unfortunately due to their rarity its not something you get to choose when they are available. He is eating we and has only moved an inch or so since putting him into the tank.

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I had an outbreak of a type of bryopsis but without me even touching the stuff its totally vanished after a few weeks it helps that I didnt have many nutrients going on being that there are only 4 fish and i was doing small feeds plus my skimmer is rated for approx 6 times the system volume I have so im happy about that.

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A few updates: Due to the whole finance thing going on at the moment and our dollar basically crashing vs USD I realised I needed to fast track a lot of option extras that I wasnt initially planning on getting until the tank was established but now that ive realised everything was about to double in price and quite possibly for more than 12 months I decided to get everything now and just wait a bit longer before I go for the Tunze Stream 2 which still arent in Aus yet anyway.

I have purchased a Super Feeder - Automatic fish feeder which will allow me with a simple mod to feed two types of dry foods ie. two grades of pellet sizes about 5 times a day and it also thankfully allows me to do very small servings which means I can finally actually feed as our books advise rather than just one serving a day.

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I purchased the following American marine pinpoint monitors and have modified them to use a 12V adaptor meaning they can be operated 24/7 if required:

Salinity Monitor
Wireless Thermometer + 2 remote sensors
Dissolved Oxygen Monitor
Calcium Monitor

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I purchased a Tunze Osmolator, I already have an ATO auto top off but I want it to power a 24V solenoid hooked up to my R/O unit which I was having a hard time figuring out how to do whereas the Tunze Osmolator has an additional addon you can purchase which will do exactly that.

Ive purchased a Stingray Filters Salinity Refractometer, 21.8Kg Miracle Mud and 17.2Kg Aragonite (for the sump partitions).

Other than that I forgot to mention a few things Ive previously purchased around xmas. Ive gotten a tank depth monitor which tells me how much water is left in my 3300L NSW storage tank

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An apogee par meter.

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A fire extinguisher (a present\joke from my dad at xmas because ive mixed water and electricity a few times).

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A kill-a-watt meter which measures how much power each device is drawing so I can calculate how much money devices are costing me even when they are allegedly powered off.

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And finally a red led torch which was surprisingly hard to source because most people just sell a normal torch with a shaded lens vs actual red leds. This is handy because I find that fish a less likely to notice me watching them at night (they still notice if you move the light around enough to cast shadows) and the major advantage I noticed is that inverts dont seem to be bothered by it so ive got a heap of flame scallops I got as hitchhikers who don't realise im there where as if I change the torch to be white light they disappear within an instant.

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I have been slowly moving all the corals & inverts across. I managed to catch my bicolour blenny with the help of a friend and also moved the two tomato clowns accross with their bubble tips. This time I decided to sit them all together rather than opposite ends as I was finding the tomatoes would try and host in all of them which was annoying for my pair of occ clowfish who were in the middle of the tank. I actually think having the two different contrasting colours makes them look awesome.


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Awesome build! how's the super feeder working out for you?


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