a miracle delivery... need advice - Page 2

toddmh · 12/17/2009, 12:21 PM

wow thats a big tank and a huge problem for you..If I was you I would not count on the truck driver much,semi drivers never want anything to do with thier cargo..

look into a rental shop and see if you can rent some type of fork lift..

good luck

solRNY · 12/17/2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Haffs09

Good luck with the move! I know how stressful it is planning for a tank delivery. When I received my tank from Miracles, I was fortunate I had access to a loading dock at my father-in-laws work. We loaded it onto a 4x8 trailer and took it home. It my house, I had prebuild a cart, and it just so happened to work out that the height of the cart was only an inch lower than the bottom of the tank when it was uncrated. I used those cheapo suction cup holders from Harbor freight, and with 8 guys, we slid it off the trailer onto my cart. I calculated the tank to weigh ~740lbs. That seemed high to me, but with your tank dimensions and excluding any eurobracing, I get ~215lbs for your tank using the same formula...so it must be right.

My crate had a zillion screws in it, so bring a couple of drills and extra bits. Bring a couple of square bits too. At least with my crate, they secured the bottom plywood to 4x4's with 4" long screws that required the square bits.
Good luck!

--wah ~740lbs, 8 guys!! that is some ji-norm-us tank. thanks for the details, i plan on building some sort of rolling tank stand this weekend, it will be two piece, one like a low profile furniture mover, and one where it is like an "I" stand where when i put the two togther i get my hieght and able to drag around the house with.

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Originally Posted by toddmh

wow thats a big tank and a huge problem for you..If I was you I would not count on the truck driver much,semi drivers never want anything to do with thier cargo..
look into a rental shop and see if you can rent some type of fork lift..
good luck

--hmmm, i have asked my neighbor to help, he said he would if he is around... thanks.

solRNY · 12/20/2009, 02:33 PM

Update: Got an email from Derek, said the tank was complete on friday, and will install the overflow on saturday, looks like were on schedule! Also mentioned he'll send me some pictures before it goes into the crate monday, cant wait! this is about the only time that i want the weekend to be over allready!

So I got three of these from harbor freight, I know I was advise to use extreme caution when using these, they were 5$ so I had to give them a try.

Maxium Weight Capacity = 200lbs!!! Gonna give it a test...

I advise NO ONE DO THIS! I believe this were designed to be used perpendicular to the working surface and not paralle to it, so again, DO NOT DO THIS. Anyways it was funny,

at least it seems to be working at 150lbs... had to modify them slightly to be able to hang from.

Also built this rolling thing to manuver the tank around the house.

And a picture of the tank, well the mock tank. We also mocked up a 4x4x2 cube and found it to be way too big for the room.

Capt_Cully · 12/20/2009, 02:53 PM

Lang you da man. That's too funny! Can't wait to see this tank!!!

superkat · 12/20/2009, 08:34 PM

wow...just....wow. what we do to decide on tank placement....incredible.

pascal32 · 12/20/2009, 09:19 PM

I'm in clay/liverpool and depending on the time I can help out. I have a full size pickup to help stage the move. PM me if you like.

(yes, I'm new here. short of some water changes the tank is ready for corals!)

//Pascal

belgian_waffleman · 12/20/2009, 09:39 PM

Keep us posted. share the pics that the Miracle guys are sending you.

Getting the tank in the house somehow seems to be one of the most challenging tasks, yet, it's nothing compared to the road ahead. :-)

Good luck, and the guys (and gals) here in URS have some great advice, they helped me out immensely.

Waffleman

captain7359 · 12/20/2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by solRNY

Update:

Maxium Weight Capacity = 200lbs!!! Gonna give it a test...

I can't get those to stick to glass tanks sometimes, and you're playing spiderman, hanging off a door with them, I'm impressed!!!

iamwrasseman · 12/20/2009, 10:07 PM

wow so many comments and not one person really committed ? i may be able to help and will if we can get the delivery time known . just PM me and give me your number and i will call ya to check it out . i will be available on thursday if needed and dont mind helping out a fellow reefer in need . i may have a couple of buddies too but i cant yet committ them but i can check . be prepared with where its going etc etc . let me know if you need me .

solRNY · 12/21/2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurry

I'm in clay/liverpool and depending on the time I can help out. I have a full size pickup to help stage the move. PM me if you like. (yes, I'm new here. short of some water changes the tank is ready for corals!)
//Pascal

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Originally Posted by iamwrasseman

wow so many comments and not one person really committed ? i may be able to help and will if we can get the delivery time known . just PM me and give me your number and i will call ya to check it out . i will be available on thursday if needed and dont mind helping out a fellow reefer in need . i may have a couple of buddies too but i cant yet committ them but i can check . be prepared with where its going etc etc . let me know if you need me .

Pascal, Iamwrasseman I very much appriecate the jesture. If you dont mind I will send you both a PM once I know the time of delivery, you guys are by no means held to this, if you dont hear from me tomorrow please enjoy your holiday! As of now I have my brothers traveling from rochester to help me out.

I received a picture from Derek, the picture was taken with the tank in the crate, I can not post the picture becuase my wife has not seen it and wont until late xmas eve, sorry guys/gals, but i did upgradge the mock tank, enjoy

I am a bit disappointed that I had overdesigned the overflow, as it is too large for my liking... i have 3 holes, 1 for return and 2 for drain, i should have limit the drain to 1 and lessen the profile...

As for those people at Miracles, they ROCK! So far they are absolutly on schedule for my rush order! Responded to everyone of my emails!

pascal32 · 12/21/2009, 08:03 PM

I love the mock-up!

belgian_waffleman · 12/21/2009, 08:56 PM

Hi Lang,

having second drain is a wise choice. It's called flood insurance.

The mock-up looks nice!

Can't wait to see the final product.

Waffleman

EllieSuz · 12/25/2009, 06:04 AM

We will all be expecting a picture PDQ.

solRNY · 12/25/2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by EllieSuz

We will all be expecting a picture PDQ.

--Merry Xmas EllieSuz, hope your day is going well, as I just woke up and need to get into gear

--Unfortunately, the tank is at the syracuse depot since xmas eve and will be there until monday, they wouldnt even let me pick it up, sigh... I talked to derek at Miracles and we tried everything but nothing worked, did not know UPS is closed xmas eve! my wife is OK with it being late, as long as she gets it soon

--Have a wonderful holiday to you all!

Shipper: MIRACLES IN GLASS
Weight: 275
Pieces: 1

Status Service Center Date
Pickup: TORONTO, ON 12/22
Current: SYRACUSE, NY 12/23
ESTIMATED Delivery: SYRACUSE, NY 12/28

ARRIVE 12/23 23:41 SYRACUSE, NY 265483 OVNT
DISPATCH 12/23 21:58 BINGHAMTON, NY 265483 OVNT
ARRIVE 12/23 21:26 BINGHAMTON, NY 265483 OVNT
DISPATCH 12/23 17:53 HARRISBURG, PA 265483 OVNT
ARRIVE 12/23 05:36 HARRISBURG, PA 265760 OVNT
DISPATCH 12/22 20:00 TORONTO, ON 265760 OVNT
PICKED UP 12/22 00:00 TORONTO, ON

solRNY · 12/28/2009, 11:23 AM

Woke up to all this snow, just yesterday it was all green!

solRNY · 12/28/2009, 12:04 PM

Offloading the crate was not as difficult as I thought, actually it was pretty easy! The driver helped us, it was very nice of him.

Capt_Cully · 12/28/2009, 12:25 PM

Open that bad boy up!!!!!!!!!!!

johno4 · 12/28/2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt_Cully

Open that bad boy up!!!!!!!!!!!

Ditto, I wanna see this thing.

solRNY · 12/28/2009, 02:31 PM

Those guys at Miracles are awesome, my drawings was a 3x3x2 and the tank measured exactly 3x3x2! The overdesigned(by me) overflow was made to the exact dimension!

Derek, if you reading, I would like to thank you for your support and 2nd to none service!

Thanks, Blurry and Iamwrasseman for committing to help the move.

Opening box...

My wife is loving the tank

Capt_Cully · 12/28/2009, 02:46 PM

That is a KICK A$$ tank Lang!!! Congrats! Let me know when you get next years Christmas list together, I definitely wanna be on it if you buy gifts like this!!!!

Next thing for you to start is a "build thread".

Really great tank. I'm happy for you and your family.

Gary Majchrzak · 12/28/2009, 02:51 PM

impressive looking aquarium. The overflow looks fine by me!

iamwrasseman · 12/28/2009, 02:53 PM

looks awesome ! if possiable could you pm me with the complete cost of such a tank as i am in the market for a 5'L x3'w x2' deep tank approx 250 gallons , i have been pricing them out and they are pretty much all close to the same .just wanted to compare prices . if not how about the phone number ,that also would be cool /

thanks Dave

solRNY · 12/28/2009, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Cully

That is a KICK A$$ tank Lang!!! Congrats! Let me know when you get next years Christmas list together, I definitely wanna be on it if you buy gifts like this!!!! Next thing for you to start is a "build thread". Really great tank. I'm happy for you and your family.

--This is her xmas present for many years to come, hehehhe. Thanks for the kind words mark, merry xmas and a happy new year to your familiy as well. We just now have to learn how to grow corals like you!

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Originally Posted by Gary Majchrzak

impressive looking aquarium. The overflow looks fine by me!

--Thanks Gary! I was actually in your part of rochester this past sunday, visited Aaron to pick up some live rock, maybe someday I can stop by to pick up a URS red planet from ya

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamwrasseman

looks awesome ! if possiable could you pm me with the complete cost of such a tank as i am in the market for a 5'L x3'w x2' deep tank approx 250 gallons , i have been pricing them out and they are pretty much all close to the same .just wanted to compare prices . if not how about the phone number ,that also would be cool / thanks Dave

--Hi Dave, thanks for the compliment. My primary contact at Miracles was Derek, very pleasent guy to deal with, I have to say again, SUPERB Customer Service. I will PM you the information, as I do not know the rules of postings such.

Here it is unpacked and cleaned: 3x3x2 - rimmless 3 side starphire

toddmh · 12/28/2009, 04:21 PM

nice looking hot tub lol

belgian_waffleman · 12/28/2009, 06:46 PM

Very nice tank!i can't wait to see it all set up.

Todd, I'm trying to erase the glass hot tub idea.

Waffleman

12/20/2009, 02:53 PM	#29
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	Lang you da man. That's too funny! Can't wait to see this tank!!! __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

12/20/2009, 08:34 PM	#30
superkat Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: rochester, ny Posts: 4,280 Blog Entries: 88	wow...just....wow. what we do to decide on tank placement....incredible. __________________ “Sometimes it's necessary to go a long distance out of the way in order to come back a short distance correctly” ~ Edward Albee, The Zoo Story

12/28/2009, 12:25 PM	#42
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	Open that bad boy up!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

12/28/2009, 02:46 PM	#45
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	That is a KICK A$$ tank Lang!!! Congrats! Let me know when you get next years Christmas list together, I definitely wanna be on it if you buy gifts like this!!!! Next thing for you to start is a "build thread". Really great tank. I'm happy for you and your family. __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

12/28/2009, 02:51 PM	#46
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	best christmas present yet! impressive looking aquarium. The overflow looks fine by me! __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

12/17/2009, 12:21 PM	#26
toddmh Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Tonawanda Posts: 1,976	wow thats a big tank and a huge problem for you..If I was you I would not count on the truck driver much,semi drivers never want anything to do with thier cargo.. look into a rental shop and see if you can rent some type of fork lift.. good luck

12/20/2009, 02:33 PM	#28
solRNY Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: syracuse, ny Posts: 1,420	Update: Got an email from Derek, said the tank was complete on friday, and will install the overflow on saturday, looks like were on schedule! Also mentioned he'll send me some pictures before it goes into the crate monday, cant wait! this is about the only time that i want the weekend to be over allready! So I got three of these from harbor freight, I know I was advise to use extreme caution when using these, they were 5$ so I had to give them a try. Maxium Weight Capacity = 200lbs!!! Gonna give it a test... I advise NO ONE DO THIS! I believe this were designed to be used perpendicular to the working surface and not paralle to it, so again, DO NOT DO THIS. Anyways it was funny, at least it seems to be working at 150lbs... had to modify them slightly to be able to hang from. Also built this rolling thing to manuver the tank around the house. And a picture of the tank, well the mock tank. We also mocked up a 4x4x2 cube and found it to be way too big for the room.

12/20/2009, 09:19 PM	#31
pascal32 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Jordan NY by cross lake Posts: 3,089	I'm in clay/liverpool and depending on the time I can help out. I have a full size pickup to help stage the move. PM me if you like. (yes, I'm new here. short of some water changes the tank is ready for corals!) //Pascal

12/20/2009, 09:39 PM	#32
belgian_waffleman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lockport,NY Posts: 1,309	Keep us posted. share the pics that the Miracle guys are sending you. Getting the tank in the house somehow seems to be one of the most challenging tasks, yet, it's nothing compared to the road ahead. :-) Good luck, and the guys (and gals) here in URS have some great advice, they helped me out immensely. Waffleman

12/20/2009, 10:07 PM	#34
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 7,003	wow so many comments and not one person really committed ? i may be able to help and will if we can get the delivery time known . just PM me and give me your number and i will call ya to check it out . i will be available on thursday if needed and dont mind helping out a fellow reefer in need . i may have a couple of buddies too but i cant yet committ them but i can check . be prepared with where its going etc etc . let me know if you need me .

12/21/2009, 08:03 PM	#36
pascal32 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Jordan NY by cross lake Posts: 3,089	I love the mock-up!

12/21/2009, 08:56 PM	#37
belgian_waffleman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lockport,NY Posts: 1,309	Hi Lang, having second drain is a wise choice. It's called flood insurance. The mock-up looks nice! Can't wait to see the final product. Waffleman

12/25/2009, 06:04 AM	#38
EllieSuz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 3,858	We will all be expecting a picture PDQ.

12/28/2009, 11:23 AM	#40
solRNY Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: syracuse, ny Posts: 1,420	Woke up to all this snow, just yesterday it was all green!

12/28/2009, 12:04 PM	#41
solRNY Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: syracuse, ny Posts: 1,420	Offloading the crate was not as difficult as I thought, actually it was pretty easy! The driver helped us, it was very nice of him.

12/28/2009, 02:31 PM	#44
solRNY Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: syracuse, ny Posts: 1,420	Those guys at Miracles are awesome, my drawings was a 3x3x2 and the tank measured exactly 3x3x2! The overdesigned(by me) overflow was made to the exact dimension! Derek, if you reading, I would like to thank you for your support and 2nd to none service! Thanks, Blurry and Iamwrasseman for committing to help the move. Opening box... My wife is loving the tank

12/28/2009, 02:53 PM	#47
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 7,003	looks awesome ! if possiable could you pm me with the complete cost of such a tank as i am in the market for a 5'L x3'w x2' deep tank approx 250 gallons , i have been pricing them out and they are pretty much all close to the same .just wanted to compare prices . if not how about the phone number ,that also would be cool / thanks Dave

12/28/2009, 04:21 PM	#49
toddmh Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Tonawanda Posts: 1,976	nice looking hot tub lol

12/28/2009, 06:46 PM	#50
belgian_waffleman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lockport,NY Posts: 1,309	Very nice tank!i can't wait to see it all set up. Todd, I'm trying to erase the glass hot tub idea. Waffleman