a miracle delivery... need advice - Page 3

Capt_Cully · 12/28/2009, 06:48 PM

oh my god that's gorgeous. I know I requested pictures before, but please don't post any more. What are you gonna light that with Lang? What are you doing for a stand? Is it going to have a canopy? Rimless=beautiful! any pics of current set up?

pascal32 · 12/28/2009, 08:05 PM

that is simply outstanding!

johno4 · 12/28/2009, 08:32 PM

Wow, what a nice tank. I cant wait to see the progress as you set it up.

Neoz · 12/28/2009, 08:39 PM

Ditto what everyone else said. That tank is outstanding!

Johnny C · 12/29/2009, 12:57 AM

This tank is AWESOME, gotta love Miracles (literally and figuratively)! +1 on Dereks service, second to none!

Definatly start a build thread and keep us informed; I'm looking forward to watching this come alive!

mockery · 12/29/2009, 01:24 AM

WOW that tank is awesome! Glad you were able to figure out how to unload it! Can't wait for a build thread!

Haffs09 · 12/29/2009, 11:07 AM

Gorgreous looking tank!

solRNY · 12/29/2009, 01:10 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys!

As for stand I am thinking of getting someone to weld a frame together and then skin it white, not quite sure... know of any local stand builder/cabinat maker?

As for lighting, maybe a low profile gieseman, hung from the ceiling, want to put the ballast in the cieling joist, but not sure...

I have a lot of planning to do, want to get this up and running by mid summer

Took a few more pictures, tried my best to keep things constant, can you tell what is what?

Gary Majchrzak · 12/29/2009, 01:33 PM

white balance test?
low iron glass vs. regular float?

iamwrasseman · 12/29/2009, 01:43 PM

solRNY pm me about that stand and we can talk .

solRNY · 12/29/2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Majchrzak

white balance test?
low iron glass vs. regular float?

--Sorry, low iron glass vs. regular float.

These picture are probably the worst for comparison, to me they look pretty much the same.

captain7359 · 12/29/2009, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solRNY

Thanks for the compliments guys!

Took a few more pictures, tried my best to keep things constant, can you tell what is what?

Based on the blue/green silicone, I'm guessing the bottom pict is the regular glass?

belgian_waffleman · 12/29/2009, 06:23 PM

the top pic is the low iron glass?

Waffleman

Johnny C · 12/29/2009, 09:01 PM

I would definatly hang the light from the cieling... Sunlight Supply 2-Point is what I use and I love it.

As for the stand, contact Joe's Wood Works here in Buffalo. He's currently making my stand and doing an amazing job to say the least.

solRNY · 12/29/2009, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain7359

Based on the blue/green silicone, I'm guessing the bottom pict is the regular glass?

Quote:

Originally Posted by belgian_waffleman

the top pic is the low iron glass?
Waffleman

--you guys are both correct, i had to go back and double check...

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliDreaminjC

I would definatly hang the light from the cieling... Sunlight Supply 2-Point is what I use and I love it.

As for the stand, contact Joe's Wood Works here in Buffalo. He's currently making my stand and doing an amazing job to say the least.

--hanging the light fixture would be idea, but can i tuck away the ballast in the ceiling joist?

--i live in syracuse now, joe will be to far for me. would love to see build picture of ur stand!

Capt_Cully · 12/30/2009, 07:10 AM

Lang, Dave at ABC does great work. He did all the woodwork at the store. He's built countless stands for customers, as well as his own home's 210. Can't hurt to have him quote you a price.

solRNY · 01/24/2010, 07:08 PM

my thoughts on Miracles:
for those that are not aware the build of this cube took serveral days, maybe 3-4 days, and rushed delivered... this rush was becuase i needed it done this way for xmas eve delivery

the day after i recieved the cube i found the corners seems to have bubbles, some more than others, i immediatly contacted derek, after sending him some pictures he concluded that the silicon did not get a chance to cure, possible due to it sitting in the truck in this cold winter weather for a ~4 days... he then said that he can build me another tank at no cost to me, that he will give me credit for the entire order, that there will be no shipping charges, at this point i was estatic!! so good to hear a company, i imagine Miracles is a small one, to take the lost to make a customer happy. through all this i did not sense the "blame game" from derek, in my mind, Miracles is 2nd to none.

at this point, we took the oppurtinity to upgrade and redesign the tank

iamwrasseman · 01/24/2010, 07:17 PM

what changes did you make ? do they want the old tank back ?

solRNY · 01/24/2010, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamwrasseman

what changes did you make ?

What ever I do I can not get the overflow profile drastically smaller, therefor slighty smaller overflow foot print, and upgraded to a 4x4x2

there goes serveral more fingers

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamwrasseman

do they want the old tank back ?

I am not sure how, but the tank has to go back.

At the moment we are building a stand, I am learning a lot about lumber, thats its the wrong material, and that I can not cut them squared!!

Capt_Cully · 01/24/2010, 07:55 PM

4x4x2??? 240gal? Nice!!! Also good info about the company! No advertising quite like satisfied customer testimony. I haven't been able to get a quote back from them yet. They want a diagram but I'm not sure how I'm supposed to come up with that. Seems silly if I just want one of their standard (non custom) tanks.

iamwrasseman · 01/24/2010, 08:09 PM

dude pm me on the stand and we can help !

solRNY · 01/24/2010, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Cully

4x4x2??? 240gal? Nice!!! Also good info about the company! No advertising quite like satisfied customer testimony. I haven't been able to get a quote back from them yet. They want a diagram but I'm not sure how I'm supposed to come up with that. Seems silly if I just want one of their standard (non custom) tanks.

sketch something up and send them a picuture or if you want tell me the dimensions, thickness and i can edit my all ready created sketch for you

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamwrasseman

dude pm me on the stand and we can help !

thanks dave, i should have took my time and talked to you but i gone too far now, so i have this:

its going to be the worst stand build ever!

Capt_Cully · 01/24/2010, 08:41 PM

I just want a standard 180. 6x2x2. They want to know where I want the overflows etc. I'm not computer savy enough to whip up a computer animation.

Looks like your stand is off to a good start. wrasseman might be able to pretty it up for you though. He does good work!

iamwrasseman · 01/24/2010, 08:51 PM

looks like a great start ! if you are going to have a sump i would consider removing the two lower braces that go across the botton unless you are going to build a floor on top of that .if you need help covering the stand to make it look awesome please PM me and i can help .

solRNY · 01/25/2010, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Cully

I just want a standard 180. 6x2x2. They want to know where I want the overflows etc. I'm not computer savy enough to whip up a computer animation.

i will put this togethet after work tonight, the front 6ft pane sits inside of the side pane? eurobracing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamwrasseman

looks like a great start ! if you are going to have a sump i would consider removing the two lower braces that go across the botton unless you are going to build a floor on top of that .if you need help covering the stand to make it look awesome please PM me and i can help .

there will be nothing put under the stand, everthing will be plumbed to the basement, i been at this stand for serveral weeks and now at the point of painting

here a pic of it skinned:

i took out the center frame supports and side center support and wonder if it is good to support the tank?

12/28/2009, 06:48 PM	#51
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	oh my god that's gorgeous. I know I requested pictures before, but please don't post any more. What are you gonna light that with Lang? What are you doing for a stand? Is it going to have a canopy? Rimless=beautiful! any pics of current set up? __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

12/28/2009, 08:39 PM	#54
Neoz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,582	Ditto what everyone else said. That tank is outstanding! __________________ Dave Live to Learn Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 450 - currently in storage.

12/29/2009, 12:57 AM	#55
Johnny C Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 4,140	This tank is AWESOME, gotta love Miracles (literally and figuratively)! +1 on Dereks service, second to none! Definatly start a build thread and keep us informed; I'm looking forward to watching this come alive! __________________ "...the sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonders forever" -Jacques Cousteau

12/29/2009, 01:33 PM	#59
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	white balance test? low iron glass vs. regular float? __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

12/29/2009, 09:01 PM	#64
Johnny C Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 4,140	I would definatly hang the light from the cieling... Sunlight Supply 2-Point is what I use and I love it. As for the stand, contact Joe's Wood Works here in Buffalo. He's currently making my stand and doing an amazing job to say the least. __________________ "...the sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonders forever" -Jacques Cousteau

12/28/2009, 08:05 PM	#52
pascal32 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Jordan NY by cross lake Posts: 3,089	that is simply outstanding!

12/28/2009, 08:32 PM	#53
johno4 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,526	Wow, what a nice tank. I cant wait to see the progress as you set it up.

12/29/2009, 01:24 AM	#56
mockery Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: atlanta Posts: 85	WOW that tank is awesome! Glad you were able to figure out how to unload it! Can't wait for a build thread!

12/29/2009, 11:07 AM	#57
Haffs09 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 924	Gorgreous looking tank!

12/29/2009, 01:10 PM	#58
solRNY Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: syracuse, ny Posts: 1,420	Thanks for the compliments guys! As for stand I am thinking of getting someone to weld a frame together and then skin it white, not quite sure... know of any local stand builder/cabinat maker? As for lighting, maybe a low profile gieseman, hung from the ceiling, want to put the ballast in the cieling joist, but not sure... I have a lot of planning to do, want to get this up and running by mid summer Took a few more pictures, tried my best to keep things constant, can you tell what is what?

12/29/2009, 01:43 PM	#60
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 7,003	solRNY pm me about that stand and we can talk .

12/29/2009, 06:23 PM	#63
belgian_waffleman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lockport,NY Posts: 1,309	the top pic is the low iron glass? Waffleman

12/30/2009, 07:10 AM	#66
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	Lang, Dave at ABC does great work. He did all the woodwork at the store. He's built countless stands for customers, as well as his own home's 210. Can't hurt to have him quote you a price. __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

01/24/2010, 07:08 PM	#67
solRNY Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: syracuse, ny Posts: 1,420	my thoughts on Miracles: for those that are not aware the build of this cube took serveral days, maybe 3-4 days, and rushed delivered... this rush was becuase i needed it done this way for xmas eve delivery the day after i recieved the cube i found the corners seems to have bubbles, some more than others, i immediatly contacted derek, after sending him some pictures he concluded that the silicon did not get a chance to cure, possible due to it sitting in the truck in this cold winter weather for a ~4 days... he then said that he can build me another tank at no cost to me, that he will give me credit for the entire order, that there will be no shipping charges, at this point i was estatic!! so good to hear a company, i imagine Miracles is a small one, to take the lost to make a customer happy. through all this i did not sense the "blame game" from derek, in my mind, Miracles is 2nd to none. at this point, we took the oppurtinity to upgrade and redesign the tank

01/24/2010, 07:17 PM	#68
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 7,003	what changes did you make ? do they want the old tank back ? __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

01/24/2010, 07:55 PM	#70
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	4x4x2??? 240gal? Nice!!! Also good info about the company! No advertising quite like satisfied customer testimony. I haven't been able to get a quote back from them yet. They want a diagram but I'm not sure how I'm supposed to come up with that. Seems silly if I just want one of their standard (non custom) tanks. __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

01/24/2010, 08:09 PM	#71
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 7,003	dude pm me on the stand and we can help ! __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

01/24/2010, 08:41 PM	#73
Capt_Cully Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 13,574	I just want a standard 180. 6x2x2. They want to know where I want the overflows etc. I'm not computer savy enough to whip up a computer animation. Looks like your stand is off to a good start. wrasseman might be able to pretty it up for you though. He does good work! __________________ People say cars are a bad investment. Those people don't have reef tanks. Current Tank Info: 120, Radion Gen 2 Pro x 2

01/24/2010, 08:51 PM	#74
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 7,003	looks like a great start ! if you are going to have a sump i would consider removing the two lower braces that go across the botton unless you are going to build a floor on top of that .if you need help covering the stand to make it look awesome please PM me and i can help . __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?