How to clean a Tunze pump and what to do about a driver alarm. - Page 7

hos · 09/28/2009, 08:18 AM

Hi Roger
just checking in with you to see if you had time to look at my two pumps yet .
thanks
Frank

rvitko · 09/28/2009, 09:07 AM

Yes, we sent replacements out on the 24th.

rvitko · 09/28/2009, 09:34 AM

Chris,

If you can't get them out easily it is best to send the pumps in, usually the stuck parts will be destroyed in the removal process and you will need new ones. They typically have to be drilled out in these cases, but sometimes I can extract them with a dent puller (slide hammer), but they still are ruined.

FishDad2 · 09/28/2009, 04:22 PM

Thanks Roger. In that case, I'll order a new one and try to yank the old one out. If I'm unsuccessful or feel I'm putting too much stress on the unit in the attempt, I'll send it to you.

Out of curiosity, are the new impeller units any less likely to get stuck like this than the older style?

rvitko · 09/29/2009, 09:19 AM

It depends how old, over the last 7 years we made several incremental changes aimed at reducing the heat and vacuum inside the pump that causes calcium to precipitate but the most important thing is to be thorough when you do your cleanings and never use any acid stronger than 5% vinegar. Strong acids cause the plastic to swell permanently from hydrogen bonds so the spaces become tighter and the pumps run hotter, same for any calcium deposits left in the upper bearing and center cooling port in the magnet.

hos · 09/29/2009, 04:37 PM

Hi Roger i just set up the 6105 and one of the power supply is not working
I chaged out the jumper from 24 v to 18 v and bolth lights are on
what should I do ?
thanks for your hepl
Frank

hos · 09/29/2009, 09:13 PM

Roger I did a search on my problem and found that even with the red light on you can have the jumper not in right.
so every thing is working perfect and I am very happy with your customer service
tunze are the best

Frank

rvitko · 09/30/2009, 09:23 AM

Thank you!

justchad · 11/26/2009, 10:30 AM

roger i sent the pumps out monday, not sure when you will be getting them. Have a great Thanksgiving! chad

rvitko · 11/30/2009, 10:48 AM

Thank you, I hope you had a great Thanksgiving as well.

justchad · 11/30/2009, 03:27 PM

thanks so much! Did you receive my pumps?

rvitko · 11/30/2009, 03:43 PM

Yes, I just left you a message.

justchad · 12/04/2009, 08:40 PM

thanks roger for the pumps. I got them today and hooked them up to my 7095. One of the pumps has a loud clicking coming from it. I am not sure what could be the cause. thanks chad

rvitko · 12/07/2009, 10:23 AM

Chad, does it click when it is off during an Interval or when the foodtimer is pushed? If so this is the fish care function. Or does it click during a program when it is turning on?

justchad · 12/07/2009, 09:22 PM

the pumps are alternating back and fourth and all i hear is click-click..... click-click.. I recorded a video of it if you want me to email it to you i can

rvitko · 12/08/2009, 10:23 AM

Yes, this is not unusual on the 6105 when you alternate between pumps, it is a normal issue, we are working on. It won't harm the pump, you can reduce it by sliding the 6065.792 disk up on the shaft about 1/8". You can eliminate it by using Pulse or Interval 2 so the pumps do not shut off. We expect to have a solution by March but a revision of the drive unit is required.

caat408 · 02/22/2010, 02:01 PM

Hello Roger,
I am carlos from chile.
I have the bad problems of the clicking sound in my 4 pumps
In november`09 I was talk with tunze in germany and they send me the 6065.792.
I recibe it today.. but before install this disk, I want know if you find the correct solution,
or if this disk is the finally solution.
I want to use my pumps in alternative mode from 0-80%.
Best regards
Carlos

rvitko · 02/22/2010, 03:29 PM

Yes, for the Stream 2 the real solution won't be available until late March, the new disks raised higher on the shaft should help, but there will be a new clamp with a rubber insert to absorb the vibration and noise.

NVTE · 03/15/2010, 11:45 PM

Hi Roger
I got 6100.10 pump from local reefer about a month ago.
Today the alarm is on. I cleaned it, the pump is turn on for couple second and stop and the alarm is on. Anything else I can do ? Thanks.

rvitko · 03/16/2010, 09:01 AM

Have you made sure the drive unit is clean per the first page of this thread? That the upper bearing is not stuck and the hole in the magnet is clean? Is the drive unit the new style or the older style?

NVTE · 03/16/2010, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvitko

Have you made sure the drive unit is clean per the first page of this thread? That the upper bearing is not stuck and the hole in the magnet is clean? Is the drive unit the new style or the older style?

Hi Roger,
I did, and now I do vinegar bath for it to make sure it clean.
I don't know which is old style or new style. I got it as Tunze 6100 and they come with 7240.26 and another come with 7240.27 (which I just realize the different driver model number now)

rvitko · 03/16/2010, 03:17 PM

Yes, but the first page of this thread shows the old style 6100.600 and the new style 6100.700. The 6100.600 could have a broken brake shoe or mechanical problem which would cause this.

Rukis · 03/24/2010, 01:49 PM

Hey Roger,
I've been experiencing some issues with my wavebox, it was sounding the alarm, go off and then come back on at irregular intervals? At first I thought something went into the pump because the impellar fin was chipped, so I replaced the impellar with a new one, and still have the on and off problem with the alarm?? The first impellar was a single piece and the replacement was multiple piece impellar. Is it the impellar or pump? Do I need to send it in, thanks!

rvitko · 03/24/2010, 02:14 PM

It could be either one, especially if the drive assembly was changed without changing the upper bearing and bush bearing as these parts changed over the years and new/old mismatches tend to cause the pump to bind up.

Rukis · 03/24/2010, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvitko

It could be either one, especially if the drive assembly was changed without changing the upper bearing and bush bearing as these parts changed over the years and new/old mismatches tend to cause the pump to bind up.

So, when I replaced the impellar I didn't realize that there was the upper bushing and bush bearing stuck in the pump, might be that binding up the impellar, how do I get it out? It seems to be stuck? thanks

09/28/2009, 09:07 AM	#152
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Yes, we sent replacements out on the 24th. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

09/28/2009, 09:34 AM	#153
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Chris, If you can't get them out easily it is best to send the pumps in, usually the stuck parts will be destroyed in the removal process and you will need new ones. They typically have to be drilled out in these cases, but sometimes I can extract them with a dent puller (slide hammer), but they still are ruined. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

09/29/2009, 09:19 AM	#155
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	It depends how old, over the last 7 years we made several incremental changes aimed at reducing the heat and vacuum inside the pump that causes calcium to precipitate but the most important thing is to be thorough when you do your cleanings and never use any acid stronger than 5% vinegar. Strong acids cause the plastic to swell permanently from hydrogen bonds so the spaces become tighter and the pumps run hotter, same for any calcium deposits left in the upper bearing and center cooling port in the magnet. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

09/30/2009, 09:23 AM	#158
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Thank you! __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

11/26/2009, 10:30 AM	#159
justchad Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: forked river n.j. Posts: 16	roger i sent the pumps out monday, not sure when you will be getting them. Have a great Thanksgiving! chad __________________ New Jersey reefers club

09/28/2009, 08:18 AM	#151
hos Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 82	Hi Roger just checking in with you to see if you had time to look at my two pumps yet . thanks Frank

09/28/2009, 04:22 PM	#154
FishDad2 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 660	Thanks Roger. In that case, I'll order a new one and try to yank the old one out. If I'm unsuccessful or feel I'm putting too much stress on the unit in the attempt, I'll send it to you. Out of curiosity, are the new impeller units any less likely to get stuck like this than the older style?

09/29/2009, 04:37 PM	#156
hos Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 82	Hi Roger i just set up the 6105 and one of the power supply is not working I chaged out the jumper from 24 v to 18 v and bolth lights are on what should I do ? thanks for your hepl Frank

09/29/2009, 09:13 PM	#157
hos Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 82	Roger I did a search on my problem and found that even with the red light on you can have the jumper not in right. so every thing is working perfect and I am very happy with your customer service tunze are the best Frank

11/30/2009, 10:48 AM	#160
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Thank you, I hope you had a great Thanksgiving as well. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

11/30/2009, 03:27 PM	#161
justchad Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: forked river n.j. Posts: 16	thanks so much! Did you receive my pumps? __________________ New Jersey reefers club

11/30/2009, 03:43 PM	#162
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Yes, I just left you a message. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

12/04/2009, 08:40 PM	#163
justchad Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: forked river n.j. Posts: 16	thanks roger for the pumps. I got them today and hooked them up to my 7095. One of the pumps has a loud clicking coming from it. I am not sure what could be the cause. thanks chad __________________ New Jersey reefers club

12/07/2009, 10:23 AM	#164
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Chad, does it click when it is off during an Interval or when the foodtimer is pushed? If so this is the fish care function. Or does it click during a program when it is turning on? __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

12/07/2009, 09:22 PM	#165
justchad Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: forked river n.j. Posts: 16	the pumps are alternating back and fourth and all i hear is click-click..... click-click.. I recorded a video of it if you want me to email it to you i can __________________ New Jersey reefers club Last edited by justchad; 12/07/2009 at 09:24 PM. Reason: wanted to add something

12/08/2009, 10:23 AM	#166
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Yes, this is not unusual on the 6105 when you alternate between pumps, it is a normal issue, we are working on. It won't harm the pump, you can reduce it by sliding the 6065.792 disk up on the shaft about 1/8". You can eliminate it by using Pulse or Interval 2 so the pumps do not shut off. We expect to have a solution by March but a revision of the drive unit is required. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

02/22/2010, 02:01 PM	#167
caat408 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 12	Hello Roger, I am carlos from chile. I have the bad problems of the clicking sound in my 4 pumps In november`09 I was talk with tunze in germany and they send me the 6065.792. I recibe it today.. but before install this disk, I want know if you find the correct solution, or if this disk is the finally solution. I want to use my pumps in alternative mode from 0-80%. Best regards Carlos

02/22/2010, 03:29 PM	#168
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Yes, for the Stream 2 the real solution won't be available until late March, the new disks raised higher on the shaft should help, but there will be a new clamp with a rubber insert to absorb the vibration and noise. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

03/15/2010, 11:45 PM	#169
NVTE Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: S.Cali Posts: 4,088	Hi Roger I got 6100.10 pump from local reefer about a month ago. Today the alarm is on. I cleaned it, the pump is turn on for couple second and stop and the alarm is on. Anything else I can do ? Thanks. __________________ Daniel T5+LED 70 Gallon CAD Starting new 190 Gallon

03/16/2010, 09:01 AM	#170
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Have you made sure the drive unit is clean per the first page of this thread? That the upper bearing is not stuck and the hole in the magnet is clean? Is the drive unit the new style or the older style? __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

03/16/2010, 03:17 PM	#172
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Yes, but the first page of this thread shows the old style 6100.600 and the new style 6100.700. The 6100.600 could have a broken brake shoe or mechanical problem which would cause this. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

03/24/2010, 01:49 PM	#173
Rukis Moved On Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 75	Hey Roger, I've been experiencing some issues with my wavebox, it was sounding the alarm, go off and then come back on at irregular intervals? At first I thought something went into the pump because the impellar fin was chipped, so I replaced the impellar with a new one, and still have the on and off problem with the alarm?? The first impellar was a single piece and the replacement was multiple piece impellar. Is it the impellar or pump? Do I need to send it in, thanks!

03/24/2010, 02:14 PM	#174
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	It could be either one, especially if the drive assembly was changed without changing the upper bearing and bush bearing as these parts changed over the years and new/old mismatches tend to cause the pump to bind up. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish