The Brown's 72g AGA Bowfront - 1st Tank - Page 2

Inigma · 01/04/2008, 10:40 AM

I think mostly the difference is that the water mostly just trickles through that area.

IMO, Best bet for that sump would be to use it as just that, a sump for extra water, heater maybe, and your protein skimmer. Also a good place to through a bag of carbon if you wanna run carbon in your system. I would just add a couple chunks of live rock, sand and whatever into the 10g fuge.

The_Browns · 01/04/2008, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Inigma
I think mostly the difference is that the water mostly just trickles through that area.

IMO, Best bet for that sump would be to use it as just that, a sump for extra water, heater maybe, and your protein skimmer. Also a good place to through a bag of carbon if you wanna run carbon in your system. I would just add a couple chunks of live rock, sand and whatever into the 10g fuge.

If thats the case, what can I put there to take the noise down? The tank is to loud with the water dripping that far.

OranguTang · 01/04/2008, 11:26 AM

You could redesign the plumbing a bit. Keep the LR in your refugium, not in the wet/dry. The problem with the media being exposed to air is the bacteria that colonizes the surface can convert ammonia to nitrate more quickly than it can be de-nitrified.

The_Browns · 01/04/2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by JediReefer
You could redesign the plumbing a bit. Keep the LR in your refugium, not in the wet/dry. The problem with the media being exposed to air is the bacteria that colonizes the surface can convert ammonia to nitrate more quickly than it can be de-nitrified.

Any suggestion on redesigning the plumbing

OranguTang · 01/04/2008, 11:38 AM

Idealy you would re plumb the drain to come into the top of the tank and then bring it down into the water column. If you dont want to do that or you dont want to drill the top of the sump you can just add a 90 to the existing drain and then bring it down into the water column. But with all those 90's you are losing a lot of flow.

LobsterOfJustice · 01/04/2008, 11:38 AM

I saw you put hose clamps on the drain side, but did you also put some on the return side? This is even more important because this side is pressurized. Even if the hoses stay on for months, they can blow off eventually (speaking from experience).

The_Browns · 01/04/2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by LobsterOfJustice
I saw you put hose clamps on the drain side, but did you also put some on the return side? This is even more important because this side is pressurized. Even if the hoses stay on for months, they can blow off eventually (speaking from experience).

Good point, I will get a clamp for the return side aswell

Thanks

NealNano · 01/04/2008, 01:59 PM

You should really think about getting a better skimmer. The one you have is a piece of junk. It works but not very well.

The_Browns · 01/04/2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by NealNano
You should really think about getting a better skimmer. The one you have is a piece of junk. It works but not very well.

I adjusted the skimmer, raised the tube and its working great now.

The_Browns · 01/06/2008, 10:26 PM

Alright I tested the salinity and I am at 1.25. that/'s ideal right?

The_Browns · 01/07/2008, 02:29 PM

I was wondering how much flow we are going to need for our tank. We are putting 50 more lbs of live rock in it soon. The retyrn is about 500 gph and we have one Koralia #2 it the tank.

We were going to replace the #2 with 2 #3's. What does everything think or give your suggestion please.

OranguTang · 01/07/2008, 02:33 PM

All depends on your plans for the tank. 1.025 is fine, most keep their tanks at .024-.026

The_Browns · 01/07/2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by JediReefer
All depends on your plans for the tank. 1.025 is fine, most keep their tanks at .024-.026

We will be doing a mixed reef tank. Some lps and sps

OranguTang · 01/07/2008, 02:49 PM

I think a couple koralia 3's would work fine. Possibly #4's. I have 2x#3 in my 60 cube. You could also look at the Tunze's if you want to spend more. I plan on getting the Tunze's ASAP. Koralias were just a temp. solution until my sump and skimmer got here.

The_Browns · 01/07/2008, 03:24 PM

So Jedi, you don't think 2 #4's is to much flow?

mako417 · 01/07/2008, 04:12 PM

You can never have to much flow!!

OranguTang · 01/07/2008, 04:19 PM

I had a single #4 in my 60L (4' long) and I had flow all across the tank, back when I had LPS and it worked great. If I did it again I would have gone 2 of the #3's, maybe even #2's if all I was doing was LPS and softies. The flow was too strong for my bubble on one end of the tank, there was basically nothing there but a montipora.

The_Browns · 01/07/2008, 06:54 PM

Well it sounds like I should go with 2 #3's

The_Browns · 01/08/2008, 08:25 AM

Question: The tank has been cycling for a week, Is it ok to go ahead and put Chaeto in the fuge or should I wait until after cycling?

NanoGurl · 01/08/2008, 05:22 PM

Looks good! I like the LR

The_Browns · 01/09/2008, 09:35 PM

Alright not much to update. I got the sand in the fuge. So I wanted to upload a pic of that. Also I am picking up some Chaeto on Friday and will install the fuge light.

The_Browns · 01/12/2008, 05:28 PM

Not that much to update except I picked up some Chaeto for the fuge and installed a light. Just wanted to post a pic.

NanoGurl · 01/12/2008, 05:37 PM

What light did you go with?

The_Browns · 01/12/2008, 08:01 PM

I went with a UV 850 kelvins light. 60w -> 14w. I heard I should go with about 1500+ kelvins so I might be changing it.

Ziggy953 · 01/12/2008, 08:11 PM

For a mixed reef you will want 20-30x turn over in your tank. As in 20-30x72 = the amount of gph flow in the tank. I ahve the same tank you do. I have 1200gph return with 2 Tunze Nano streams at 660 each and a Mag7 on a SCWD closed loop for flow in my tank. I have a lot of SPS and LPS corals in my tank. The wet/dry that you have I started off with one similar to it and got rid of it when I started adding corals. I just didn't like the way it worked. I ended up converting my sytem to a 20g tall tank as my fuge and a 10g tank as my return I scrapped the wet/dry all together and it is sitting collecting dust. If you would like I will gladly post some pics of my system

01/04/2008, 11:26 AM	#28
OranguTang NULL Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 977	You could redesign the plumbing a bit. Keep the LR in your refugium, not in the wet/dry. The problem with the media being exposed to air is the bacteria that colonizes the surface can convert ammonia to nitrate more quickly than it can be de-nitrified. __________________ -Marc

01/04/2008, 11:38 AM	#30
OranguTang NULL Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 977	Idealy you would re plumb the drain to come into the top of the tank and then bring it down into the water column. If you dont want to do that or you dont want to drill the top of the sump you can just add a 90 to the existing drain and then bring it down into the water column. But with all those 90's you are losing a lot of flow. __________________ -Marc

01/04/2008, 11:38 AM	#31
LobsterOfJustice Recovering Detritophobe Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 7,443	I saw you put hose clamps on the drain side, but did you also put some on the return side? This is even more important because this side is pressurized. Even if the hoses stay on for months, they can blow off eventually (speaking from experience). __________________ If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. I remember when zoanthids were called things like "green" and "orange" and not "reverse gorilla nipple." Current Tank Info: 180g reef with all the bells and whistles

01/07/2008, 02:29 PM	#36
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	I was wondering how much flow we are going to need for our tank. We are putting 50 more lbs of live rock in it soon. The retyrn is about 500 gph and we have one Koralia #2 it the tank. We were going to replace the #2 with 2 #3's. What does everything think or give your suggestion please. __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/07/2008, 02:33 PM	#37
OranguTang NULL Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 977	All depends on your plans for the tank. 1.025 is fine, most keep their tanks at .024-.026 __________________ -Marc

01/04/2008, 10:40 AM	#26
Inigma Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Posts: 453	I think mostly the difference is that the water mostly just trickles through that area. IMO, Best bet for that sump would be to use it as just that, a sump for extra water, heater maybe, and your protein skimmer. Also a good place to through a bag of carbon if you wanna run carbon in your system. I would just add a couple chunks of live rock, sand and whatever into the 10g fuge.

01/04/2008, 01:59 PM	#33
NealNano Moved On Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilbert, Az Posts: 764	You should really think about getting a better skimmer. The one you have is a piece of junk. It works but not very well.

01/06/2008, 10:26 PM	#35
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Alright I tested the salinity and I am at 1.25. that/'s ideal right?

01/07/2008, 02:49 PM	#39
OranguTang NULL Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 977	I think a couple koralia 3's would work fine. Possibly #4's. I have 2x#3 in my 60 cube. You could also look at the Tunze's if you want to spend more. I plan on getting the Tunze's ASAP. Koralias were just a temp. solution until my sump and skimmer got here. __________________ -Marc

01/07/2008, 03:24 PM	#40
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	So Jedi, you don't think 2 #4's is to much flow? __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/07/2008, 04:12 PM	#41
mako417 Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nixa, MO Posts: 192	You can never have to much flow!!

01/07/2008, 04:19 PM	#42
OranguTang NULL Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 977	I had a single #4 in my 60L (4' long) and I had flow all across the tank, back when I had LPS and it worked great. If I did it again I would have gone 2 of the #3's, maybe even #2's if all I was doing was LPS and softies. The flow was too strong for my bubble on one end of the tank, there was basically nothing there but a montipora. __________________ -Marc

01/07/2008, 06:54 PM	#43
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Well it sounds like I should go with 2 #3's __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/08/2008, 08:25 AM	#44
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Question: The tank has been cycling for a week, Is it ok to go ahead and put Chaeto in the fuge or should I wait until after cycling? __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/08/2008, 05:22 PM	#45
NanoGurl Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 4,306	Looks good! I like the LR

01/09/2008, 09:35 PM	#46
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Alright not much to update. I got the sand in the fuge. So I wanted to upload a pic of that. Also I am picking up some Chaeto on Friday and will install the fuge light. __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/12/2008, 05:28 PM	#47
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Not that much to update except I picked up some Chaeto for the fuge and installed a light. Just wanted to post a pic. __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/12/2008, 05:37 PM	#48
NanoGurl Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 4,306	What light did you go with?

01/12/2008, 08:01 PM	#49
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	I went with a UV 850 kelvins light. 60w -> 14w. I heard I should go with about 1500+ kelvins so I might be changing it. __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/12/2008, 08:11 PM	#50
Ziggy953 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Owings Mills, Maryland Posts: 690	For a mixed reef you will want 20-30x turn over in your tank. As in 20-30x72 = the amount of gph flow in the tank. I ahve the same tank you do. I have 1200gph return with 2 Tunze Nano streams at 660 each and a Mag7 on a SCWD closed loop for flow in my tank. I have a lot of SPS and LPS corals in my tank. The wet/dry that you have I started off with one similar to it and got rid of it when I started adding corals. I just didn't like the way it worked. I ended up converting my sytem to a 20g tall tank as my fuge and a 10g tank as my return I scrapped the wet/dry all together and it is sitting collecting dust. If you would like I will gladly post some pics of my system __________________ If you want to see my tank click on the little red house. Current Tank Info: 40g Breeder - RKE - LEDs the works...