Picasso Clownfish Photos - Please Post Yours - Page 5

ian20 · 10/27/2008, 05:36 AM

My male Picasso has been cleaning a spot on the rocks. Hopefully they are getting ready to breed.

vaporize · 10/27/2008, 01:24 PM

Does anybody know how many % of the picasso babies bred true (have grade A or grade B picasso patterns?)

TheOtherReefer · 10/27/2008, 02:08 PM

First you have to get the record of the origin of the parents, then depending on the place of origin you use different formulas also factoring in how far back the more A grade picasso one's linnage goes. Use avogadro's number as the denominator in the pythagorean theorem and multiply by the square root of the number of generations back the more A grade picasso one goes. This should give you a rough estimate. For a more accurate percentage divide your answer by 100 and then multiply the result by 0. There is your % of grade A picassos.

just kiddin. Remember, many times several of the fry die in the metamorphic stage before they even have developed stripes, there are almost always some deaths in this period becasue of the stress on the babies. there is no way to be able to tell which ones that died would have developed into different grades. Getting an "Actual %" is probably impossible. I DOn't think there is an actual formula to figure out that kind of percentage. Sometimes regular perculas will have a picasso trait in their genes, and sometimes picasso babies will look like regular perculas besides the normal A and B grading. Technically there is no difference genetically between the grades(I think). We are just assigning names to random patterns on the clowns. Sometimes the clowns have different patterns on both sides having a normal 3 stripe or B grade pattern while the other side of the body has an A grade pattern. Too mant variables IMO.

So I hope this helps

vaporize · 10/27/2008, 02:15 PM

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Thanks for the hypothesis and speculations

I do vaguely remember there are one or two people with ORA linkage origin picasso breeding for them, so they can give a much more accurate estimate

Bluespot22 · 10/27/2008, 04:11 PM

Here are my babies. They are from Doni, her parent pics are on page 1.

ian20 · 10/27/2008, 05:13 PM

When ORA started selling Picasso clown they sad it was very few like 5 or 10% I think. But now they have more pairs and they are getting more like 40 to 50% but the new pairs are probably offspring of there original pair and that a subject for a hole other thread. This is just what I have herd so I don't really know.

ahayes13 · 10/27/2008, 08:33 PM

ian--- very cool. would be really neat to see them breed.

Dustin · 10/28/2008, 04:33 PM

Hey guys, here are some F2 Picasso pictures. These are Picasso True Percula, not Snowflake Ocellaris. These guys are still young, less than an inch right now, the pictures make them look a lot bigger.

Chaloupa · 10/28/2008, 04:35 PM

Dustin...I soooooo want a pair of these...they're gorgeous!

vaporize · 10/28/2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by Dustin
[B]Hey guys, here are some F2 Picasso pictures. These are Picasso True Percula, not Snowflake Ocellaris.

Dustin, thanks for sharing, are these 100% picasso line or has it mixed with snowflake line?

Dustin · 10/28/2008, 06:46 PM

No, they are 100% picasso.

Kigs · 10/28/2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Dustin
Hey guys, here are some F2 Picasso pictures. These are Picasso True Percula, not Snowflake Ocellaris. These guys are still young, less than an inch right now, the pictures make them look a lot bigger.

Dustin, those are beautiful! Any pictures of the parents and when will they be available? Does the white gradually cover the entire body once they mature?

TheOtherReefer · 10/29/2008, 07:28 AM

WOW. awesome percs!!!

TandN · 10/29/2008, 11:40 AM

those are wild looking

Luis A M · 10/29/2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by Dustin
[B]Hey guys, here are some F2 Picasso pictures. These are Picasso True Percula, not Snowflake Ocellaris.

They sure are,Dustin.Check the first pic.I never found so easy to count the 10 dorsal spine rays in a picture

Ocellaris have 11,and a tall "camel hump"dorsal.

TheOtherReefer · 10/29/2008, 05:10 PM

you can also easily tell by their eyes.

altezza · 10/30/2008, 01:26 PM

man !!! where can i buy a pair of these guy

myreefcentral · 11/05/2008, 02:12 PM

alright, who's the culprit that did a white paint dip here?

amazing fishes!!! but i kinda like the odd stripes (that makes them look more like cows) of regular picassos...

coralite · 11/10/2008, 11:14 AM

I've always thought that Picasso clowns have a much better body shape than snowflakes and much fewer deformities. I never much cared for the snowflakes but these strongly white picassos are much more attractive than the deformity-ladden snowflakes. Thanks for sharing the pics Dustin.

Doni · 11/11/2008, 11:27 AM

I breed picasso perculas. Mine are not as white as ORA's but I do have a few in each spawn that are mostly white.
I call them **name removed because of legal threat from trademark holder** clowns.
These photos were taken at only 3 months of age so the white is still developing...

DheereCrossing · 11/11/2008, 02:00 PM

**name removed because of legal threat from trademark holder**! HA! I like it. and they are great looking fish too.

143gadgets · 11/11/2008, 10:37 PM

Here is mine.

DheereCrossing · 11/12/2008, 08:05 AM

I don't think you could paint a picture any better than that fish and that nem. I just love that pattern and colors.

BaNDiTo_RoX · 11/13/2008, 06:20 PM

Look here.

http://c-questfarms.com/cotton_candy...ndy_clowns.htm

GSMguy · 11/17/2008, 07:48 AM

thanks for sharing Dustin

10/27/2008, 02:08 PM	#103
TheOtherReefer Pre-Internet Club Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 1,154	First you have to get the record of the origin of the parents, then depending on the place of origin you use different formulas also factoring in how far back the more A grade picasso one's linnage goes. Use avogadro's number as the denominator in the pythagorean theorem and multiply by the square root of the number of generations back the more A grade picasso one goes. This should give you a rough estimate. For a more accurate percentage divide your answer by 100 and then multiply the result by 0. There is your % of grade A picassos. just kiddin. Remember, many times several of the fry die in the metamorphic stage before they even have developed stripes, there are almost always some deaths in this period becasue of the stress on the babies. there is no way to be able to tell which ones that died would have developed into different grades. Getting an "Actual %" is probably impossible. I DOn't think there is an actual formula to figure out that kind of percentage. Sometimes regular perculas will have a picasso trait in their genes, and sometimes picasso babies will look like regular perculas besides the normal A and B grading. Technically there is no difference genetically between the grades(I think). We are just assigning names to random patterns on the clowns. Sometimes the clowns have different patterns on both sides having a normal 3 stripe or B grade pattern while the other side of the body has an A grade pattern. Too mant variables IMO. So I hope this helps __________________ When a man lies he murders some part of the world... Current Tank Info: Custom shallow (72"x24"x16") 100 gallon reef. Last edited by TheOtherReefer; 10/27/2008 at 02:13 PM.

10/27/2008, 05:13 PM	#106
ian20 Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: NH Posts: 81	When ORA started selling Picasso clown they sad it was very few like 5 or 10% I think. But now they have more pairs and they are getting more like 40 to 50% but the new pairs are probably offspring of there original pair and that a subject for a hole other thread. This is just what I have herd so I don't really know. __________________ 29 BioCube, DIY 28 3w LED's, Mini Arctic Chillier, Aqua Controler III, Tunze 9002 Skimmer w/ SteveT cup, InTank Media Basket, Tunze Stream Powerhead, Tunze ATO Current Tank Info: 29 BioCube, DIY 28 3w LED's, Mini Arctic Chillier, Aqua Controler III, Tunze 9002 Skimmer w/ SteveT cup, InTank Media Basket, Tunze Stream Powerhead, Tunze ATO

10/27/2008, 08:33 PM	#107
ahayes13 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brandon, FL Posts: 235	ian--- very cool. would be really neat to see them breed. __________________ ----- Amanda Current Tank Info: 120 gallon mixed reef

10/28/2008, 04:33 PM	#108
Dustin Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 528	Hey guys, here are some F2 Picasso pictures. These are Picasso True Percula, not Snowflake Ocellaris. These guys are still young, less than an inch right now, the pictures make them look a lot bigger. __________________ Dustin Dorton Oceans, Reefs & Aquariums

10/28/2008, 04:35 PM	#109
Chaloupa Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vancouver Island, BC Canada Posts: 412	Dustin...I soooooo want a pair of these...they're gorgeous! __________________ No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. Sarah Current Tank Info: 65g hexagon reef,120g anemone and LPS, 34g RSM, 150g SPS and zoos, 40g frag/Q tank

10/27/2008, 05:36 AM	#101
ian20 Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: NH Posts: 81	My male Picasso has been cleaning a spot on the rocks. Hopefully they are getting ready to breed.

10/27/2008, 01:24 PM	#102
vaporize Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto, ON Canada Posts: 750	Does anybody know how many % of the picasso babies bred true (have grade A or grade B picasso patterns?)

10/27/2008, 04:11 PM	#105
Bluespot22 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Libertyville IL Posts: 901	Here are my babies. They are from Doni, her parent pics are on page 1.

10/28/2008, 06:46 PM	#111
Dustin Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 528	No, they are 100% picasso. __________________ Dustin Dorton Oceans, Reefs & Aquariums

10/29/2008, 07:28 AM	#113
TheOtherReefer Pre-Internet Club Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 1,154	WOW. awesome percs!!! __________________ When a man lies he murders some part of the world... Current Tank Info: Custom shallow (72"x24"x16") 100 gallon reef.

10/29/2008, 11:40 AM	#114
TandN Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,009	those are wild looking

10/29/2008, 05:10 PM	#116
TheOtherReefer Pre-Internet Club Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 1,154	you can also easily tell by their eyes. __________________ When a man lies he murders some part of the world... Current Tank Info: Custom shallow (72"x24"x16") 100 gallon reef.

10/30/2008, 01:26 PM	#117
altezza Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD Posts: 167	man !!! where can i buy a pair of these guy

11/05/2008, 02:12 PM	#118
myreefcentral Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: 5280 feet Posts: 611	alright, who's the culprit that did a white paint dip here? amazing fishes!!! but i kinda like the odd stripes (that makes them look more like cows) of regular picassos... __________________ ---------------------

11/10/2008, 11:14 AM	#119
coralite registered member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,386	I've always thought that Picasso clowns have a much better body shape than snowflakes and much fewer deformities. I never much cared for the snowflakes but these strongly white picassos are much more attractive than the deformity-ladden snowflakes. Thanks for sharing the pics Dustin.

11/11/2008, 11:27 AM	#120
Doni Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 699	I breed picasso perculas. Mine are not as white as ORA's but I do have a few in each spawn that are mostly white. I call them name removed because of legal threat from trademark holder clowns. These photos were taken at only 3 months of age so the white is still developing... __________________ Doni Marie~ "Energy and persistance conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin Current Tank Info: 120 AGA reef and 1000+ gallons of clownfish!

11/11/2008, 02:00 PM	#121
DheereCrossing Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mesquite, Texas Posts: 338	name removed because of legal threat from trademark holder! HA! I like it. and they are great looking fish too. __________________ Jeff coral and fish being housed by some great people around the metro until we find a new place to move and start it up again. Current Tank Info: No reefs in my house now - moving...,NanoCube6 freshwater at work

11/11/2008, 10:37 PM	#122
143gadgets Moved On Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,151	Here is mine.

11/12/2008, 08:05 AM	#123
DheereCrossing Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mesquite, Texas Posts: 338	I don't think you could paint a picture any better than that fish and that nem. I just love that pattern and colors. __________________ Jeff coral and fish being housed by some great people around the metro until we find a new place to move and start it up again. Current Tank Info: No reefs in my house now - moving...,NanoCube6 freshwater at work

11/13/2008, 06:20 PM	#124
BaNDiTo_RoX Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 257	Look here. http://c-questfarms.com/cotton_candy...ndy_clowns.htm

11/17/2008, 07:48 AM	#125
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	thanks for sharing Dustin __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.