Hardest to keep SPS's

jsdancer · 04/04/2010, 04:05 PM

Just out of curiosity what would you guys say is the hardest to keep in captivity acropora species?
Please let me know why they are so hard to keep.
Is it perfect water parims?
Is it lighting?
Water flow needs?

saltywet · 04/04/2010, 05:04 PM

In my experience--Hardest to keep color on:
A. Abrotanoides---they don't color back up as nicely in my tank....could be not enough light.

Hardest to keep alive---I don't know...usually sps do well, unless something is wrong with parems.

toothman · 04/04/2010, 05:14 PM

A copy from another thread, not my answer but I like the information. It seems rather accurate.

Here is a copy of a list that Chris from RM made awhile ago:

"Easiest= most Staghorn's: A. nobilis, A. formosa (super fast grower), A. insignis, A. yongei, A. abrolhosensis, A. tortuosa, A. horrida, A. robusta, A. exquisita, A. pectinatus, A. pulchra, A. austera. Also non-stags; A. tenius, A. sarmentosa, A. kimbeensis, A. valida, A. nana, A. vermiculata, I am sure there are a few more.

More Difficult= A. abrotanoides, A. secale, A. samoensis, A. humilis, A. chesterfieldensis, A. granulosa, A. macrostoma, A. schmitti, A. parilis, A. azurea, A. millepora, A. prostrata, A. lokani, A. latistella, A. plana, A. echinata, A. navini, A. proximalis, A. verweyi, A. cerealis, A. grandis, A. maryae, A. microphthalma, A. copiosa, there are more I just can't think of them at the moment.

Most Difficult or just need a really mature system with tons and tons of flow= A. gemmifera, A. hyacinthus, A. cytherea, A. bufuricata, A. monticulosa, A. suharsonoi, A. loripes, A. rosaria, A. donei, A. efflorescens, A. solitaryensis, A. branchii, A. retusa, A. aculeus, A. caroliniana, A. clathrata, A. globiceps...."

jsdancer · 04/04/2010, 05:25 PM

This is a very good list!
There is one acro species I bought. As soon as I find out the name I will now which group it falls under.

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Originally Posted by toothman

A copy from another thread, not my answer but I like the information. It seems rather accurate.

Here is a copy of a list that Chris from RM made awhile ago:

"Easiest= most Staghorn's: A. nobilis, A. formosa (super fast grower), A. insignis, A. yongei, A. abrolhosensis, A. tortuosa, A. horrida, A. robusta, A. exquisita, A. pectinatus, A. pulchra, A. austera. Also non-stags; A. tenius, A. sarmentosa, A. kimbeensis, A. valida, A. nana, A. vermiculata, I am sure there are a few more.

More Difficult= A. abrotanoides, A. secale, A. samoensis, A. humilis, A. chesterfieldensis, A. granulosa, A. macrostoma, A. schmitti, A. parilis, A. azurea, A. millepora, A. prostrata, A. lokani, A. latistella, A. plana, A. echinata, A. navini, A. proximalis, A. verweyi, A. cerealis, A. grandis, A. maryae, A. microphthalma, A. copiosa, there are more I just can't think of them at the moment.

Most Difficult or just need a really mature system with tons and tons of flow= A. gemmifera, A. hyacinthus, A. cytherea, A. bufuricata, A. monticulosa, A. suharsonoi, A. loripes, A. rosaria, A. donei, A. efflorescens, A. solitaryensis, A. branchii, A. retusa, A. aculeus, A. caroliniana, A. clathrata, A. globiceps...."

jhawkor · 04/04/2010, 08:03 PM

Where do you guys think A. enchinata would fall?

Merfin70 · 04/04/2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jhawkor

Where do you guys think A. enchinata would fall?

To keep or to grow ? I have no problem keeping them ..... getting them to grow is a whole other story.

toothman · 04/05/2010, 07:26 AM

enchinata is a very easy acro.

Reef Bass · 04/05/2010, 07:37 AM

Great list!

A. echinata is on the "medium" list.

My echinata is growing and my efflorescens positively glowing.

reefsic · 04/05/2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by toothman

enchinata is a very easy acro.

+1
IME, Enchinata is rather easy to grow, considering the params (& of course lighting) are all in line!

+1
The list provided is a good one! A. Aucleus did not work from me in my tank and eventually died off due to RTN!!!

Oldude · 04/05/2010, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toothman

A copy from another thread, not my answer but I like the information. It seems rather accurate.

Here is a copy of a list that Chris from RM made awhile ago:

"Easiest= most Staghorn's: A. nobilis, A. formosa (super fast grower), A. insignis, A. yongei, A. abrolhosensis, A. tortuosa, A. horrida, A. robusta, A. exquisita, A. pectinatus, A. pulchra, A. austera. Also non-stags; A. tenius, A. sarmentosa, A. kimbeensis, A. valida, A. nana, A. vermiculata, I am sure there are a few more.

More Difficult= A. abrotanoides, A. secale, A. samoensis, A. humilis, A. chesterfieldensis, A. granulosa, A. macrostoma, A. schmitti, A. parilis, A. azurea, A. millepora, A. prostrata, A. lokani, A. latistella, A. plana, A. echinata, A. navini, A. proximalis, A. verweyi, A. cerealis, A. grandis, A. maryae, A. microphthalma, A. copiosa, there are more I just can't think of them at the moment.

Most Difficult or just need a really mature system with tons and tons of flow= A. gemmifera, A. hyacinthus, A. cytherea, A. bufuricata, A. monticulosa, A. suharsonoi, A. loripes, A. rosaria, A. donei, A. efflorescens, A. solitaryensis, A. branchii, A. retusa, A. aculeus, A. caroliniana, A. clathrata, A. globiceps...."

I agree with your list for the most part. I personally find a hard one for me to keep is A.hoeksemai.
A few other easier ones in my experience are A.valida, A.lovelli & A.loisettea.

ezcompany · 04/05/2010, 12:16 PM

I would place the efflo in the medium category

64Ivy · 04/05/2010, 01:10 PM

For the longest time, I could not keep either hoeks or horridas. Going 2 for 2 right now though, provided I didn't just curse myself.

teambutterfield · 04/05/2010, 01:20 PM

How about a nausta?

pbnj · 04/05/2010, 02:29 PM

Echinata is one of my best growing corals.

I'm batting .000 with Torts.

jd474 · 04/05/2010, 05:16 PM

Not that anybody has any, but A. palmata are far more touchy than any of their Indo-Pacific cousins. You look at them wrong, and they die on you.

BrooksReef · 04/05/2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toothman

A copy from another thread, not my answer but I like the information. It seems rather accurate.

Here is a copy of a list that Chris from RM made awhile ago:

"Easiest= most Staghorn's: A. nobilis, A. formosa (super fast grower), A. insignis, A. yongei, A. abrolhosensis, A. tortuosa, A. horrida, A. robusta, A. exquisita, A. pectinatus, A. pulchra, A. austera. Also non-stags; A. tenius, A. sarmentosa, A. kimbeensis, A. valida, A. nana, A. vermiculata, I am sure there are a few more.

More Difficult= A. abrotanoides, A. secale, A. samoensis, A. humilis, A. chesterfieldensis, A. granulosa, A. macrostoma, A. schmitti, A. parilis, A. azurea, A. millepora, A. prostrata, A. lokani, A. latistella, A. plana, A. echinata, A. navini, A. proximalis, A. verweyi, A. cerealis, A. grandis, A. maryae, A. microphthalma, A. copiosa, there are more I just can't think of them at the moment.

Most Difficult or just need a really mature system with tons and tons of flow= A. gemmifera, A. hyacinthus, A. cytherea, A. bufuricata, A. monticulosa, A. suharsonoi, A. loripes, A. rosaria, A. donei, A. efflorescens, A. solitaryensis, A. branchii, A. retusa, A. aculeus, A. caroliniana, A. clathrata, A. globiceps...."

+1 for this list. Except A. Abrotanoides needs to be on the "Most Difficult". :O

Dizzle63 · 04/05/2010, 08:09 PM

Where would A. gomezi fall?

TNTFISHY · 04/05/2010, 09:19 PM

Had a lime green Tortuosa in my biocube under 150 hqi. Growing fine.... THEN, it fell into my Ricordea.........dead!

jsdancer · 04/05/2010, 09:23 PM

Do you have a pic of this coral?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 64Ivy

For the longest time, I could not keep either hoeks or horridas. Going 2 for 2 right now though, provided I didn't just curse myself.

jsdancer · 04/05/2010, 09:27 PM

Oh crap! I hate it when things happen like this! Glue!Glue!Glue!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNTFISHY

Had a lime green Tortuosa in my biocube under 150 hqi. Growing fine.... THEN, it fell into my Ricordea.........dead!

jsdancer · 04/05/2010, 09:29 PM

Is this an a. horridas?

jsdancer · 04/07/2010, 06:59 AM

I was doing some other searching and thought this may be a a. hoeksemai.
Where in the list would this coral fall?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdancer

Is this an a. horridas?

ezcompany · 04/07/2010, 11:32 AM

in regards to the abro, in my experience i found it super easy to grow.
color, was a totally different story though

64Ivy · 04/07/2010, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdancer

Do you have a pic of this coral?

I'll try getting you a couple recent shots later today.

64Ivy · 04/07/2010, 02:38 PM

Hoek.

Horrida. ('Incredible Hulk Acro')

04/04/2010, 04:05 PM	#1
jsdancer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 796	Hardest to keep SPS's Just out of curiosity what would you guys say is the hardest to keep in captivity acropora species? Please let me know why they are so hard to keep. Is it perfect water parims? Is it lighting? Water flow needs?

04/04/2010, 08:03 PM	#5
jhawkor Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 939	Where do you guys think A. enchinata would fall? __________________ -Landon-

04/05/2010, 07:37 AM	#8
Reef Bass colors and textures Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Petaluma CA Posts: 6,301	Great list! A. echinata is on the "medium" list. My echinata is growing and my efflorescens positively glowing. __________________ The human desires for instant gratification and immediate problem resolution cannot be satisfied with this hobby. Former president and co-president of the Wine Country Reefers. Current Tank Info: 60 gallons of Scleractinia and Zoanthidae lit w/ LEDs

04/05/2010, 12:16 PM	#11
ezcompany Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,640	I would place the efflo in the medium category __________________ Jin Have a nice day! Current Tank Info: IM40

04/05/2010, 01:10 PM	#12
64Ivy B'rer Reefer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 3,194	For the longest time, I could not keep either hoeks or horridas. Going 2 for 2 right now though, provided I didn't just curse myself. __________________ Be Kind To The Elderly. Life Without Parole Means Nothing To Us. ToTM 3-03 Current Tank Info: Between tanks. Searching for a home

04/04/2010, 05:04 PM	#2
saltywet Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Milky Way Posts: 222	In my experience--Hardest to keep color on: A. Abrotanoides---they don't color back up as nicely in my tank....could be not enough light. Hardest to keep alive---I don't know...usually sps do well, unless something is wrong with parems.

04/04/2010, 05:14 PM	#3
toothman Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phila area (Newtown) Posts: 1,572	A copy from another thread, not my answer but I like the information. It seems rather accurate. Here is a copy of a list that Chris from RM made awhile ago: "Easiest= most Staghorn's: A. nobilis, A. formosa (super fast grower), A. insignis, A. yongei, A. abrolhosensis, A. tortuosa, A. horrida, A. robusta, A. exquisita, A. pectinatus, A. pulchra, A. austera. Also non-stags; A. tenius, A. sarmentosa, A. kimbeensis, A. valida, A. nana, A. vermiculata, I am sure there are a few more. More Difficult= A. abrotanoides, A. secale, A. samoensis, A. humilis, A. chesterfieldensis, A. granulosa, A. macrostoma, A. schmitti, A. parilis, A. azurea, A. millepora, A. prostrata, A. lokani, A. latistella, A. plana, A. echinata, A. navini, A. proximalis, A. verweyi, A. cerealis, A. grandis, A. maryae, A. microphthalma, A. copiosa, there are more I just can't think of them at the moment. Most Difficult or just need a really mature system with tons and tons of flow= A. gemmifera, A. hyacinthus, A. cytherea, A. bufuricata, A. monticulosa, A. suharsonoi, A. loripes, A. rosaria, A. donei, A. efflorescens, A. solitaryensis, A. branchii, A. retusa, A. aculeus, A. caroliniana, A. clathrata, A. globiceps...."

04/05/2010, 07:26 AM	#7
toothman Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phila area (Newtown) Posts: 1,572	enchinata is a very easy acro.

04/05/2010, 01:20 PM	#13
teambutterfield Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: LA Posts: 592	How about a nausta?

04/05/2010, 02:29 PM	#14
pbnj Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 381	Echinata is one of my best growing corals. I'm batting .000 with Torts.

04/05/2010, 05:16 PM	#15
jd474 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: my mom's basement Posts: 658	Not that anybody has any, but A. palmata are far more touchy than any of their Indo-Pacific cousins. You look at them wrong, and they die on you. __________________ Don't cross the streams. Current Tank Info: Tankless and happy about it

04/05/2010, 08:09 PM	#17
Dizzle63 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 665	Where would A. gomezi fall?

04/05/2010, 09:19 PM	#18
TNTFISHY Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 250	Had a lime green Tortuosa in my biocube under 150 hqi. Growing fine.... THEN, it fell into my Ricordea.........dead!

04/05/2010, 09:29 PM	#21
jsdancer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 796	Is this an a. horridas?

04/07/2010, 11:32 AM	#23
ezcompany Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,640	in regards to the abro, in my experience i found it super easy to grow. color, was a totally different story though __________________ Jin Have a nice day! Current Tank Info: IM40

04/07/2010, 02:38 PM	#25
64Ivy B'rer Reefer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 3,194	Hoek. Horrida. ('Incredible Hulk Acro') __________________ Be Kind To The Elderly. Life Without Parole Means Nothing To Us. ToTM 3-03 Current Tank Info: Between tanks. Searching for a home