ATI 24' 8x39w T5 or Ecotech Radion ?

dh350twin · 10/28/2011, 03:38 PM

I am starting a new tank it is a marineland dd 93 gal 30x30x24.
I will be growing a mixed reef including but not limited to mainly zooanthids and sps.

My problem is i cannot decide on what light fixture to put over this tank as it is not the "normal" tank dimension.It is deeper then i am used to and shorter then i am used to.

My last tank i ran all t5's and i really liked the colors(after some bulb changes) and was very pleased with the growth i experienced.I really would like to go with the Ecotech but not sure if it will meet my needs.

Any imput on the subject would be appreciate

dh350twin · 10/28/2011, 06:48 PM

no one has an opinion?

drunkfish3 · 10/28/2011, 07:01 PM

not sure one ecotech will cover, they only cover 24"x24" but depending on you rock work it may work.

Fig · 10/28/2011, 07:01 PM

Wait for the Kessil A350's IMO

Saltwatercoral2 · 10/28/2011, 07:08 PM

I know its not on your list.. But I vote a halide retro.. WIll light that tank up perfectly.

But from your list, im guessing you meant a 8 x 24 watt t5 fixture? If its between the only 2 listed, i vote the ATI fixture

jwilliams860 · 10/28/2011, 07:36 PM

I have the marineland 24x24x18 cube and I have a 6 bulb sunpower over it and everything dows great, i was also thinking about picking up the Radion and trying it, but ive never had an issue with my t5 was just thinking of trying led and picking up one for my cube is cheaper then swapping them on my 300 gallon, but i dont think you could go wrong with either one, would just be a preference i think.

dh350twin · 10/28/2011, 07:41 PM

i like the feed back i will check out the kessil

TucanSam007 · 10/28/2011, 08:16 PM

This is a tough question to ask man. We don't have enough reviews on the radion to make a good call. I'll do a review on mine coming tuesday

and give you a heads up on coverage

jimrawr · 10/28/2011, 08:52 PM

The sunpower or powermodule is a sure bet and the radion is definitely an unknown right now. I think if you want SPS you should stick with the ATI right now. Take it from someone who bought a very expensive LED system and sold it after 7 weeks..

dh350twin · 10/28/2011, 09:43 PM

Yeah it is a little early.....i really hope it has enough spread i have high hopes for this fixture.
The ATI is bad a** and i know i will not go wrong with it.
I also am unsure if i should do the 24 inch which is not a true 24 inch or go with the 36 inch which is not a true 36 inch
What do you think?

dh350twin · 10/28/2011, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimrawr

The sunpower or powermodule is a sure bet and the radion is definitely an unknown right now. I think if you want SPS you should stick with the ATI right now. Take it from someone who bought a very expensive LED system and sold it after 7 weeks..

Why if you do not mind me asking did you not like the led?

jimrawr · 10/28/2011, 10:27 PM

Went from a 400w 14k ushio bulb which gave me great colors and growth to LED that browned everything out in a few days and colors never came back. Last week I changed to a ATI Sunpower and I slowly see colors coming back. I liked the 400w Ushio bulb for the corals but I didnt like the color it put out so thats why I didnt go back to that.

I would go with a 8x24 on your tank I think. That leaves 3 inches on either side of the unit which is fine, will give you great coverage.

Texsun · 10/28/2011, 10:28 PM

I currently run an ATI 8x24w over a 30" in tank and will be get 2xRadion on Monday. I went for two Radion as I previously ran two AI Sol Blues and thought the coverage was great. Was never happy with the AIs and sold them for ATI but the Radion tempted me back to LED. I'll obviously have more input next week.

stevedola · 10/29/2011, 06:46 AM

IMO-leave LED alone until people figure it out. Go with the 8x24w sunpower. Just bought one from saltysupply and its phenomenal! Ive always liked T5s but was temped away by the AI sols...needless to say I wasnt happy with the results. I went back to a proven winner! the 24" will be perfect over 30" of space. as it is, my fixture is basically the size of my tank and could be used over a larger tank.

COLORS ARE AWESOME...nothing like T5. Ive ran 250w radiums + AIs, this by far is the best color and still has that dusk-dawn effect. Theres nothing like the LEDs dimmable dusk-dawn effect but the ATI is a small compromise for the excellent results. I will say, I liked my radiums color and growth was good but it was difficult for me not to have the dusk/dawn effect...plus the ATI looks killer over my cube in the living room.

rtparty · 10/29/2011, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevedola

IMO-leave LED alone until people figure it out. Go with the 8x24w sunpower. Just bought one from saltysupply and its phenomenal! Ive always liked T5s but was temped away by the AI sols...needless to say I wasnt happy with the results. I went back to a proven winner! the 24" will be perfect over 30" of space. as it is, my fixture is basically the size of my tank and could be used over a larger tank.

COLORS ARE AWESOME...nothing like T5. Ive ran 250w radiums + AIs, this by far is the best color and still has that dusk-dawn effect. Theres nothing like the LEDs dimmable dusk-dawn effect but the ATI is a small compromise for the excellent results. I will say, I liked my radiums color and growth was good but it was difficult for me not to have the dusk/dawn effect...plus the ATI looks killer over my cube in the living room.

LEDs have been figured out and are great to use. You have to get the right kind though. AIs are some of my least favorite LEDs. They have a very limited spectrum and just don't look good.

Im as big of fan of ATI as just about anyone else out there but since going to LED, I wont be returning to T5s. Bulbs are getting more expensive every year and replacing them once a year can get expensive.

8 bulbs every 10-12 months is gonna run about $180 a pop. Ecotech has some pictures of their system over their own tanks and things look really good.

I vote for the radion or even the Ecoxotic fixtures coming out this week.

dh350twin · 10/29/2011, 09:34 AM

This is getting interesting and is very helpful,,,,but i am still unsure.
I am leading towards the ATI as well just to remove the what if factor.

solitude127 · 10/29/2011, 10:51 AM

The way I feel about the Radion is that this is it's first run. My dad always told me to never buy the first run of anything... cars, guns, etc..... IMO, I would wait a year to buy the Radion so that they can get the bugs worked out (if there are any). I'm sure Ecotech did their testing but no testing like end user testing.

dh350twin · 10/29/2011, 11:09 AM

Yeah that is definitely something i have considered.

stevedola · 10/29/2011, 01:57 PM

I will say this, IN MY OPINION, my tank never looked better than with the ATI fixture.

huge1day · 10/29/2011, 02:33 PM

I am in the same situation, but a little more difficult. My tank is 36x36x24. Ecotech said 2 Radions would cover it but I don't see how??

dh350twin · 10/29/2011, 08:22 PM

Thank you for all the feedback

fishcraze_1 · 10/29/2011, 09:01 PM

I just got a 24" powermodule 8 x 24. Seems like everyone likes these fixtures as they are proven. Can someone post bulb combinations and or pictures. Looks like I made wise choice over leds

dh350twin · 10/29/2011, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishcraze_1

I just got a 24" powermodule 8 x 24. Seems like everyone likes these fixtures as they are proven. Can someone post bulb combinations and or pictures. Looks like I made wise choice over leds

where did you purchase it.

fishcraze_1 · 10/29/2011, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dh350twin

where did you purchase it.

A fellow reefer took down his Elos 70 rimless, I got the light from him

Over half off new price too

Just need to sell some frags to buy new bulbs

Will try it out with existing bulbs to see how they look

reefinder · 10/30/2011, 12:37 AM

ATI fixture for sure, love the colors mine produces

10/28/2011, 03:38 PM	#1
dh350twin Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: kent island md Posts: 599	ATI 24' 8x39w T5 or Ecotech Radion ? I am starting a new tank it is a marineland dd 93 gal 30x30x24. I will be growing a mixed reef including but not limited to mainly zooanthids and sps. My problem is i cannot decide on what light fixture to put over this tank as it is not the "normal" tank dimension.It is deeper then i am used to and shorter then i am used to. My last tank i ran all t5's and i really liked the colors(after some bulb changes) and was very pleased with the growth i experienced.I really would like to go with the Ecotech but not sure if it will meet my needs. Any imput on the subject would be appreciate __________________ Epic Reefers~~~~Carry Epic Corals!!! Current tank:240 peninsula mixed reef- Atb 1050-white v2 skimmer, Mp 60wes (2) ecotech's Mp40w's, ATI Sunpower 8x80. with reef brites, custom sump. JBJ ATO, bubble magnus tripple doser. Rip custom 150 gallon mixed reef Current Tank Info: 240 gallon peninsula mixed reef tank

10/28/2011, 06:48 PM	#2
dh350twin Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: kent island md Posts: 599	no one has an opinion? __________________ Epic Reefers~~~~Carry Epic Corals!!! Current tank:240 peninsula mixed reef- Atb 1050-white v2 skimmer, Mp 60wes (2) ecotech's Mp40w's, ATI Sunpower 8x80. with reef brites, custom sump. JBJ ATO, bubble magnus tripple doser. Rip custom 150 gallon mixed reef Current Tank Info: 240 gallon peninsula mixed reef tank

10/28/2011, 07:41 PM	#7
dh350twin Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: kent island md Posts: 599	i like the feed back i will check out the kessil __________________ Epic Reefers~~~~Carry Epic Corals!!! Current tank:240 peninsula mixed reef- Atb 1050-white v2 skimmer, Mp 60wes (2) ecotech's Mp40w's, ATI Sunpower 8x80. with reef brites, custom sump. JBJ ATO, bubble magnus tripple doser. Rip custom 150 gallon mixed reef Current Tank Info: 240 gallon peninsula mixed reef tank

10/28/2011, 08:52 PM	#9
jimrawr Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Palm Beach County, FL Posts: 1,887	The sunpower or powermodule is a sure bet and the radion is definitely an unknown right now. I think if you want SPS you should stick with the ATI right now. Take it from someone who bought a very expensive LED system and sold it after 7 weeks.. __________________ Tank Info: 75g, 40g Sump, AquaMaxx Skimmer, Two Tunze 6095, ATI 8x52", Bubble Magus Dosing Pump, Apex Controller, Tunze ATO.

10/28/2011, 09:43 PM	#10
dh350twin Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: kent island md Posts: 599	Yeah it is a little early.....i really hope it has enough spread i have high hopes for this fixture. The ATI is bad a** and i know i will not go wrong with it. I also am unsure if i should do the 24 inch which is not a true 24 inch or go with the 36 inch which is not a true 36 inch What do you think? __________________ Epic Reefers~~~~Carry Epic Corals!!! Current tank:240 peninsula mixed reef- Atb 1050-white v2 skimmer, Mp 60wes (2) ecotech's Mp40w's, ATI Sunpower 8x80. with reef brites, custom sump. JBJ ATO, bubble magnus tripple doser. Rip custom 150 gallon mixed reef Current Tank Info: 240 gallon peninsula mixed reef tank

10/28/2011, 07:01 PM	#3
drunkfish3 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Farmingdale NY Posts: 194	not sure one ecotech will cover, they only cover 24"x24" but depending on you rock work it may work.

10/28/2011, 07:01 PM	#4
Fig Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 817	Wait for the Kessil A350's IMO

10/28/2011, 07:08 PM	#5
Saltwatercoral2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,617	I know its not on your list.. But I vote a halide retro.. WIll light that tank up perfectly. But from your list, im guessing you meant a 8 x 24 watt t5 fixture? If its between the only 2 listed, i vote the ATI fixture

10/28/2011, 07:36 PM	#6
jwilliams860 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 407	I have the marineland 24x24x18 cube and I have a 6 bulb sunpower over it and everything dows great, i was also thinking about picking up the Radion and trying it, but ive never had an issue with my t5 was just thinking of trying led and picking up one for my cube is cheaper then swapping them on my 300 gallon, but i dont think you could go wrong with either one, would just be a preference i think.

10/28/2011, 08:16 PM	#8
TucanSam007 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Suffolk, Long Island Posts: 652	This is a tough question to ask man. We don't have enough reviews on the radion to make a good call. I'll do a review on mine coming tuesday and give you a heads up on coverage

10/28/2011, 10:27 PM	#12
jimrawr Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Palm Beach County, FL Posts: 1,887	Went from a 400w 14k ushio bulb which gave me great colors and growth to LED that browned everything out in a few days and colors never came back. Last week I changed to a ATI Sunpower and I slowly see colors coming back. I liked the 400w Ushio bulb for the corals but I didnt like the color it put out so thats why I didnt go back to that. I would go with a 8x24 on your tank I think. That leaves 3 inches on either side of the unit which is fine, will give you great coverage. __________________ Tank Info: 75g, 40g Sump, AquaMaxx Skimmer, Two Tunze 6095, ATI 8x52", Bubble Magus Dosing Pump, Apex Controller, Tunze ATO.

10/28/2011, 10:28 PM	#13
Texsun Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 962	I currently run an ATI 8x24w over a 30" in tank and will be get 2xRadion on Monday. I went for two Radion as I previously ran two AI Sol Blues and thought the coverage was great. Was never happy with the AIs and sold them for ATI but the Radion tempted me back to LED. I'll obviously have more input next week. __________________ Fish heads, fish heads Roly-poly fish heads Fish heads, fish heads Eat them up, yum! Current Tank Info: Dipping my toes back with an Elos Mini...

10/29/2011, 06:46 AM	#14
stevedola Master of my domain Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 3,466	IMO-leave LED alone until people figure it out. Go with the 8x24w sunpower. Just bought one from saltysupply and its phenomenal! Ive always liked T5s but was temped away by the AI sols...needless to say I wasnt happy with the results. I went back to a proven winner! the 24" will be perfect over 30" of space. as it is, my fixture is basically the size of my tank and could be used over a larger tank. COLORS ARE AWESOME...nothing like T5. Ive ran 250w radiums + AIs, this by far is the best color and still has that dusk-dawn effect. Theres nothing like the LEDs dimmable dusk-dawn effect but the ATI is a small compromise for the excellent results. I will say, I liked my radiums color and growth was good but it was difficult for me not to have the dusk/dawn effect...plus the ATI looks killer over my cube in the living room. __________________ Cool Club Current Tank Info: coming soon...

10/29/2011, 09:34 AM	#16
dh350twin Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: kent island md Posts: 599	This is getting interesting and is very helpful,,,,but i am still unsure. I am leading towards the ATI as well just to remove the what if factor. __________________ Epic Reefers~~~~Carry Epic Corals!!! Current tank:240 peninsula mixed reef- Atb 1050-white v2 skimmer, Mp 60wes (2) ecotech's Mp40w's, ATI Sunpower 8x80. with reef brites, custom sump. JBJ ATO, bubble magnus tripple doser. Rip custom 150 gallon mixed reef Current Tank Info: 240 gallon peninsula mixed reef tank

10/29/2011, 10:51 AM	#17
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	The way I feel about the Radion is that this is it's first run. My dad always told me to never buy the first run of anything... cars, guns, etc..... IMO, I would wait a year to buy the Radion so that they can get the bugs worked out (if there are any). I'm sure Ecotech did their testing but no testing like end user testing. __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

10/29/2011, 11:09 AM	#18
dh350twin Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: kent island md Posts: 599	Yeah that is definitely something i have considered. __________________ Epic Reefers~~~~Carry Epic Corals!!! Current tank:240 peninsula mixed reef- Atb 1050-white v2 skimmer, Mp 60wes (2) ecotech's Mp40w's, ATI Sunpower 8x80. with reef brites, custom sump. JBJ ATO, bubble magnus tripple doser. Rip custom 150 gallon mixed reef Current Tank Info: 240 gallon peninsula mixed reef tank

10/29/2011, 01:57 PM	#19
stevedola Master of my domain Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 3,466	I will say this, IN MY OPINION, my tank never looked better than with the ATI fixture. __________________ Cool Club Current Tank Info: coming soon...

10/29/2011, 02:33 PM	#20
huge1day Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Alexandria LA Posts: 203	interested... I am in the same situation, but a little more difficult. My tank is 36x36x24. Ecotech said 2 Radions would cover it but I don't see how?? __________________ GBOGH then PBITAWA ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 36x36x30 reef

10/29/2011, 08:22 PM	#21
dh350twin Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: kent island md Posts: 599	Thank you for all the feedback __________________ Epic Reefers~~~~Carry Epic Corals!!! Current tank:240 peninsula mixed reef- Atb 1050-white v2 skimmer, Mp 60wes (2) ecotech's Mp40w's, ATI Sunpower 8x80. with reef brites, custom sump. JBJ ATO, bubble magnus tripple doser. Rip custom 150 gallon mixed reef Current Tank Info: 240 gallon peninsula mixed reef tank

10/29/2011, 09:01 PM	#22
fishcraze_1 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 284	I just got a 24" powermodule 8 x 24. Seems like everyone likes these fixtures as they are proven. Can someone post bulb combinations and or pictures. Looks like I made wise choice over leds

10/30/2011, 12:37 AM	#25
reefinder Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 455	ATI fixture for sure, love the colors mine produces

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