I took the plunge! New BK Supermarine 250 - Page 10

JRaquatics · 02/26/2008, 09:40 AM

So Jealous. Love the look and design of these new Supermarin BKS. Keep us posted on your results.

tbone28 · 02/26/2008, 11:28 AM

BSK, you DOG!!! All along, you were hanging out in the background, and you throw those pics in our face! LOL, and I thought you were one of my stalkers

Congrats, that makes 3 of us with the SM250 now. We should start up a new thread (since I hijacked the heck out of this one - Sorry everyone!!

) "BK SuperMarine Skimmer Club"

I decided on the BK SM for several reasons:

1) double cone design (this was also why it took me a while to take the jump - new design, not proven yet) - Theoretically, concept is great

2) footprint and collection cup fit my existing sump - would have needed a custom cup on the Deluxe (it would have been a no-charge upgrade though) - but figured if the custom cup cracked, I'd have to wait a while for a new one

3) the PUMP! 2L/H of air! - matches the BK300 and pulls way more air than the ATB medium

4) low wattage pump and silence of RD pumps - high energy costs in California, and my tank's in the family room

5) cheaper than a BK Deluxe

Still, it was a tough decision, as the ATB's skim well, too.

Since you were looking at the same skimmers, what made you go with the SM?

It looks like the skimmer's drain will be submerged? Does the water drain out of the bottom of that white "T"?

gcarroll · 02/26/2008, 11:46 AM

Congrats on the new skimmer guys. I will play devil's advocate now as I just ordered the ATB Large. It was nice to finally see the BK Deluxe, BK SM, and ATB Conical skimmers right next to each other at the recent Coral Farmer's Market.

tbone28 · 02/26/2008, 11:48 AM

Sweet, Greg. Tough decision. I don't think you can go wrong either way. Both seem like great skimmers. Really comes down to personal preference, I think. YGPM

Jim_S · 02/26/2008, 11:53 AM

Greg C is swapping out his Aqua C for a NW skimmer?????

I am very interested to hear your review on the ATB!!!

GSMguy · 02/26/2008, 11:58 AM

saweet Greg thats a monster skimmer, should be quite a bit of energy savings over the aqua C

gcarroll · 02/26/2008, 12:01 PM

I still love my AquaC but I am after the energy savings and heat reduction.

Waxxiemann · 02/26/2008, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimdogg187
Greg C is swapping out his Aqua C for a NW skimmer?????

I am very interested to hear your review on the ATB!!!

Ditto, guess we won't be seeing you around the AquaC club any more hey Greg? Hopefully I'll be joining a new club soon as well. Not exactly sure which yet though. I'm kind of playing "wait and see" right now.

You'll be saving a lot of power over that mag 36 for sure.

Jim_S · 02/26/2008, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gcarroll
I still love my AquaC but I am after the energy savings and heat reduction.

Nice. I'm sure the airstar pump will help out with that.

Those large ATB's look AWESOME

kenettson1 · 02/26/2008, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bsk997

I just joined the club as well.
What made you choose the Supermarin over the deluxe in the end tbone?
Anybody know what's the optimal sump height for the supermarin 250?

Sump level should be 20-25cm. Mine's at 21cm.

Great choice I think you will be very happy with it.

Mike

bsk997 · 02/26/2008, 12:53 PM

Lol tbone. Yeah, I usually don't post too much.

I went with the BK Supermarin for serveral reasons, most the same as yours.
Double Conical design supposed be very efficient
BK Quality and Craftsmanship
Energery efficient for it's skimming capabilities.
2000 L/H!!
A little bit cheaper then Deluxe. I actually got a great deal on the Supermarin.
And most importantly, I was able to get it right away!

I was really debating hard between the Supermarin 250, Deluxe 250 Internal, and the ATB Medium.

I was lucky enough to see both the Supermarin 250 and the ATB Medium side by side this past weekend. The Super pulling twice as much air as the ATB and the needle vs mesh finally convinced me to go with the Supermarin 250.

Greg, congrats on the new ATB Large. I think you'll be the first one with it? When are you expecting it?

When are you expecting yours tbone? Post some pics!
Any new update on yours kenettson1? Where do you have your wedgepipe set at? Where's the bubble breaking at?

kenettson1 · 02/26/2008, 01:10 PM

When you first turn it on, the bubbles are breaking right about at the neck. I also got great results running it about 3/4" higher for semi-wet skimmate.

sjames · 02/26/2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Sump level should be 20-25cm. Mine's at 21cm.

Great choice I think you will be very happy with it.

Mike

Are you measuring that from the bottom of the baseplate or somewhere else?

Maximus · 02/26/2008, 03:24 PM

Sorry if I missed it, but what are the dimensions on the BK SM250?

gcarroll · 02/26/2008, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tbone28
Sweet, Greg. Tough decision. I don't think you can go wrong either way. Both seem like great skimmers. Really comes down to personal preference, I think. YGPM

Yeah, I figured it was a toss-up so I just wanted to try something new. The ATB Medium and the BK Super Marine 250 seemed to be simular size. I figured I could not go wrong with the ATB large since I like having a very large skimmer.

Quote:

Originally posted by jimdogg187
Greg C is swapping out his Aqua C for a NW skimmer?????

Seems wierd huh?

Quote:

Originally posted by GSMguy
saweet Greg thats a monster skimmer, should be quite a bit of energy savings over the aqua C

That is my hope!

Quote:

Originally posted by Waxxiemann
Ditto, guess we won't be seeing you around the AquaC club any more hey Greg? Hopefully I'll be joining a new club soon as well. Not exactly sure which yet though. I'm kind of playing "wait and see" right now.

I'll still be in the club since I have the Calcium Reactor. I will also have them build my new sump.

Quote:

Originally posted by bsk997
I was really debating hard between the Supermarin 250, Deluxe 250 Internal, and the ATB Medium.

I was lucky enough to see both the Supermarin 250 and the ATB Medium side by side this past weekend. The Super pulling twice as much air as the ATB and the needle vs mesh finally convinced me to go with the Supermarin 250.

Greg, congrats on the new ATB Large. I think you'll be the first one with it? When are you expecting it?

The ATB Medium is 1500 lph of air. The BK SM 250 is only 500 more.

Doesn't the BK SM use a loopwheel? Ot does it use a needlewheel?

I expect to have the skimmer around mid to late March. I'm in no hurry as I plan to also get a new sump and return pump so i can incorporate my new chiller.

tbone28 · 02/26/2008, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gcarroll

The ATB Medium is 1500 lph of air. The BK SM 250 is only 500 more.

I thought the ATB medium pulls 850lph? The BK SM200 pulls 1500lph

http://www.atbskimmers.com/product.php?id=56

Quote:

Originally posted by Maximus
Sorry if I missed it, but what are the dimensions on the BK SM250?

Sang, are you going to throw one of these into your sump as well?

Depending on where you mount your pump:
18.9x14.2
19.7x11.8

tbone28 · 02/26/2008, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bsk997

I was lucky enough to see both the Supermarin 250 and the ATB Medium side by side this past weekend. The Super pulling twice as much air as the ATB and the needle vs mesh finally convinced me to go with the Supermarin 250.
When are you expecting yours tbone?

Lucky you, where did you get to see this display?? I missed out. I should have mine within a couple of weeks. No rush on mine, cuz I need to replumb my sump before I can fire it up.

YGPM

victor90 · 02/26/2008, 04:21 PM

Tbone
With the meshwheel its about 1100- 1200L/hr
the large is 1500 with needlewheel 2250 with mesh

tbone28 · 02/26/2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ATB USA
Tbone
With the meshwheel its about 1100- 1200L/hr
the large is 1500 with needlewheel 2250 with mesh

gotcha! thx

gcarroll · 02/26/2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tbone28
I thought the ATB medium pulls 850lph? The BK SM200 pulls 1500lph

http://www.atbskimmers.com/product.php?id=56

My bad, I must have had that pump confused with the Airstar 1500 w/ the needlewheel.

bsk997 · 02/26/2008, 06:05 PM

The display was at the Coral Farmer's Market down in southern california this past weekend. There was a vendor that had the BK400 Ext, Supermarin 250, ATB Small & Medium all on display.

Quote:

Originally posted by tbone28
Lucky you, where did you get to see this display?? I missed out. I should have mine within a couple of weeks. No rush on mine, cuz I need to replumb my sump before I can fire it up.

YGPM

tbone28 · 02/26/2008, 06:29 PM

Mike, skimmer's still treating you well?

tbone28 · 02/27/2008, 11:53 AM

bsk, Any pics for us yet?

kenettson1 · 02/27/2008, 06:48 PM

yes skimmer is doing great. Haven't posted any updates because I've been kinda busy with work and also found out that my wife is pregnant with our first child. I'll try to post some more pics late tonight.

kenettson1 · 02/27/2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sjames
Are you measuring that from the bottom of the baseplate or somewhere else?

From the bottom of the sump.

02/26/2008, 11:28 AM	#227
tbone28 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,503	BSK, you DOG!!! All along, you were hanging out in the background, and you throw those pics in our face! LOL, and I thought you were one of my stalkers Congrats, that makes 3 of us with the SM250 now. We should start up a new thread (since I hijacked the heck out of this one - Sorry everyone!! ) "BK SuperMarine Skimmer Club" I decided on the BK SM for several reasons: 1) double cone design (this was also why it took me a while to take the jump - new design, not proven yet) - Theoretically, concept is great 2) footprint and collection cup fit my existing sump - would have needed a custom cup on the Deluxe (it would have been a no-charge upgrade though) - but figured if the custom cup cracked, I'd have to wait a while for a new one 3) the PUMP! 2L/H of air! - matches the BK300 and pulls way more air than the ATB medium 4) low wattage pump and silence of RD pumps - high energy costs in California, and my tank's in the family room 5) cheaper than a BK Deluxe Still, it was a tough decision, as the ATB's skim well, too. Since you were looking at the same skimmers, what made you go with the SM? It looks like the skimmer's drain will be submerged? Does the water drain out of the bottom of that white "T"? Last edited by tbone28; 02/26/2008 at 11:35 AM.

02/26/2008, 11:46 AM	#228
gcarroll Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 9,666	Congrats on the new skimmer guys. I will play devil's advocate now as I just ordered the ATB Large. It was nice to finally see the BK Deluxe, BK SM, and ATB Conical skimmers right next to each other at the recent Coral Farmer's Market. __________________ Greg Carroll I will be at REEF-A-PALOOZA! SPS = Stability Promotes Success Be wary of advice coming from those who will not show you the fruits of their success! Current Tank Info: building: 250g AGE Euro tank, Abyzz A200, Vertex Supra-G filtration, Ecotech Radion Pro LEDs, ...

02/26/2008, 11:53 AM	#230
Jim_S Timo Boll Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,333	Greg C is swapping out his Aqua C for a NW skimmer????? I am very interested to hear your review on the ATB!!! __________________ We will survive in this world of competition, shooting guns and our ammunition... Bradley Nowell Current Tank Info: We're recreating the ocean in our livings rooms. With that said, I've had some ups and downs.

02/26/2008, 11:58 AM	#231
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	saweet Greg thats a monster skimmer, should be quite a bit of energy savings over the aqua C __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

02/26/2008, 12:01 PM	#232
gcarroll Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 9,666	I still love my AquaC but I am after the energy savings and heat reduction. __________________ Greg Carroll I will be at REEF-A-PALOOZA! SPS = Stability Promotes Success Be wary of advice coming from those who will not show you the fruits of their success! Current Tank Info: building: 250g AGE Euro tank, Abyzz A200, Vertex Supra-G filtration, Ecotech Radion Pro LEDs, ...

02/26/2008, 09:40 AM	#226
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609	So Jealous. Love the look and design of these new Supermarin BKS. Keep us posted on your results.

02/26/2008, 11:48 AM	#229
tbone28 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,503	Sweet, Greg. Tough decision. I don't think you can go wrong either way. Both seem like great skimmers. Really comes down to personal preference, I think. YGPM

02/26/2008, 12:53 PM	#236
bsk997 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: OC Posts: 635	Lol tbone. Yeah, I usually don't post too much. I went with the BK Supermarin for serveral reasons, most the same as yours. Double Conical design supposed be very efficient BK Quality and Craftsmanship Energery efficient for it's skimming capabilities. 2000 L/H!! A little bit cheaper then Deluxe. I actually got a great deal on the Supermarin. And most importantly, I was able to get it right away! I was really debating hard between the Supermarin 250, Deluxe 250 Internal, and the ATB Medium. I was lucky enough to see both the Supermarin 250 and the ATB Medium side by side this past weekend. The Super pulling twice as much air as the ATB and the needle vs mesh finally convinced me to go with the Supermarin 250. Greg, congrats on the new ATB Large. I think you'll be the first one with it? When are you expecting it? When are you expecting yours tbone? Post some pics! Any new update on yours kenettson1? Where do you have your wedgepipe set at? Where's the bubble breaking at?

02/26/2008, 01:10 PM	#237
kenettson1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 356	When you first turn it on, the bubbles are breaking right about at the neck. I also got great results running it about 3/4" higher for semi-wet skimmate. __________________ GO COLTS!! Current Tank Info: 225 Gallon (5x3x2) Used to have SPS - Bubbleking Supermarine 250 Skimmer - H&S 200CR-F3000 CaRx - 2 x Tunze 6200's on MultiController - 2 x 400 XM 20k - ACIII Pro

02/26/2008, 03:24 PM	#239
Maximus Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Monterey County Posts: 6,442	Sorry if I missed it, but what are the dimensions on the BK SM250? __________________ This space for rent... Current Tank Info: 36x36x16 A.G.E. tank. Lighting: ATI Straton. Circulation: 2x Vortech MP40wQd's. Skimmer: Red Sea 300. Controller: Neptune Apex. Doser: Neptune Dos.

02/26/2008, 04:21 PM	#243
victor90 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: san jose ca Posts: 1,303	Tbone With the meshwheel its about 1100- 1200L/hr the large is 1500 with needlewheel 2250 with mesh

02/26/2008, 06:29 PM	#247
tbone28 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,503	Mike, skimmer's still treating you well?

02/27/2008, 11:53 AM	#248
tbone28 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,503	bsk, Any pics for us yet?

02/27/2008, 06:48 PM	#249
kenettson1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 356	yes skimmer is doing great. Haven't posted any updates because I've been kinda busy with work and also found out that my wife is pregnant with our first child. I'll try to post some more pics late tonight. __________________ GO COLTS!! Current Tank Info: 225 Gallon (5x3x2) Used to have SPS - Bubbleking Supermarine 250 Skimmer - H&S 200CR-F3000 CaRx - 2 x Tunze 6200's on MultiController - 2 x 400 XM 20k - ACIII Pro