2000G Saltwater Aquarium

LiquidAquariums · 03/28/2016, 08:48 PM

Hey everyone, unfortunately, I do not currently have the named tank, however I have been hired to provide a 2000G setup for a client.

I have dealt with systems up to 500G, but this is beyond my previous experiences. Are there any suggestions as to where to shop for the proper filtration components for a setup of this size?

I also have my own renovation company and am familiar with Structural Engineers for their assistance with providing reports and whatnot.

Limited information so far, but here's what I got:
-2000G assuming display. Recommendations on sump& refugium size?
-Location is in a basement. May need to be built on site somehow.
-Due to the size, I am going to assume acrylic
-Due to acrylic and size, I am going to assume $50,000+
-Will need electrical panel upgrade I am sure
-Not sure if new house or existing.
-Not sure of actual reef or acrylic reef
-Budget is around $60K-$75K for the aquarium project.

Thanks in advance for the recommendations and tips!

PS. There may be a 5000G tank in the fall as well.

71xlch · 03/28/2016, 08:57 PM

No offense but I'd be a bit ****ed if I hired someone for a tank only to find out they are surfing a forum on how to do what I asked.

LiquidAquariums · 03/28/2016, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 71xlch

No offense but I'd be a bit ****ed if I hired someone for a tank only to find out they are surfing a forum on how to do what I asked.

I wouldn't accept the project if I didn't think I could handle it. I've had tanks for 20 years so I have a pretty good idea of how to do it. Just seeing if anyone has any tips or has had a similar tank in the past.

Forums would be pointless if people were scared to ask a question.

Chances are I will be partnering with a larger company to learn how to do these setups properly, but since I was excited about it, thought I would see what info was out here.

Jeremiah_Conway · 03/28/2016, 09:15 PM

Sub it out for $50k charge customer $60k
easy money

LiquidAquariums · 03/28/2016, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 71xlch

No offense but I'd be a bit ****ed if I hired someone for a tank only to find out they are surfing a forum on how to do what I asked.

And also, if you are ever asked to do something you are unsure of how to do, do you just guess how to do it, or do you research every possibility to find out as much information as possible before deciding to commit to it or not? I think forums have an abundance of first hand knowledge and resources.

LiquidAquariums · 03/28/2016, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremiah_Conway

Sub it out for $50k charge customer $60k
easy money

That's one of my top options, and also learn from them how its done.

Drae · 03/28/2016, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremiah_Conway

Sub it out for $50k charge customer $60k
easy money

Or... use this opportunity to learn how to do such a setup and do something to make the tank owner and himself proud. My suggestion is to be upfront with the owner and tell them that this will be your first extra large tank and tell them that there's info aplenty on forums such as reef central and see if they're still willing to give you a shot. If not sub it out and make some cash. Lol haha

Drae · 03/28/2016, 09:26 PM

Mrc can help. My reef creations. Contact them.

Jeremiah_Conway · 03/28/2016, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidAquariums

That's one of my top options, and also learn from them how its done.

If there's any large aquariums near you see if you can take a tour of their setup and get some ideas.

joesfiddy · 03/28/2016, 10:01 PM

Just call aquarium engineering.com

Cancun · 03/28/2016, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidAquariums

Hey everyone, unfortunately, I do not currently have the named tank, however I have been hired to provide a 2000G setup for a client.

I have dealt with systems up to 500G, but this is beyond my previous experiences. Are there any suggestions as to where to shop for the proper filtration components for a setup of this size?

I also have my own renovation company and am familiar with Structural Engineers for their assistance with providing reports and whatnot.

Limited information so far, but here's what I got:
-2000G assuming display. Recommendations on sump& refugium size?
-Location is in a basement. May need to be built on site somehow.
-Due to the size, I am going to assume acrylic
-Due to acrylic and size, I am going to assume $50,000+
-Will need electrical panel upgrade I am sure
-Not sure if new house or existing.
-Not sure of actual reef or acrylic reef
-Budget is around $60K-$75K for the aquarium project.

Thanks in advance for the recommendations and tips!

PS. There may be a 5000G tank in the fall as well.

Hi there!!!!! I think it is cool....and very responsible on your part to find out as much as you can about what needs to be done to build a 2000 gallon tank. I would be exited too. Sounds like a great project. There are a lot of places you can find on the web that builds custom acrylic tanks and sumps etc...I found a place in Chicago that does just that...sorry I can't remember the name right now...if I do I will let ya know.

Also....don't listen to some of these negative people on this forum...some are nice and like to help....others won't answer your posts if you don't belong to their click.

I am sure most of us think it is great you are asking questions before embarking on this project. If I were hiring someone to do a 2000 gallon aquarium build for me....I would want them to ask as much questions and get as much help as they needed. After you are done.....post some pics! Good luck on your project

reefbroao · 03/28/2016, 10:48 PM

I vote sub it out man. You can learn from them and you will protect yourself from getting over your head which in return will safeguard your reputation.

I don't see it as bad that you're looking for help. Passing up an opportunity like that would be a missed chance to greatly strengthen your business and knowledge. Not to mention your portfolio/ wallet.

MMacro · 03/28/2016, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 71xlch

No offense but I'd be a bit ****ed if I hired someone for a tank only to find out they are surfing a forum on how to do what I asked.

As would I.

RMD photography · 03/29/2016, 12:08 AM

As pointed out earlier, get ahold of Aquarium Engineering. The owner, Bill Wann, is the man who has the 20,000 gallon aquarium in his living room. Super nice guy too!! He makes all kinds of things, but has recently been posting about a "baby skimmer" as he calls it that would probably be about right for a 2k gallon tank.

LiquidAquariums · 03/29/2016, 02:23 PM

Thanks everyone for the comments and tips. Always going to be haters, can't prevent that, but I can sure prove them wrong.

As a multiple business owner and athlete, I've learned to battle through adversity and rise as a better and more knowledgeable person and business owner.

CHSUB · 03/29/2016, 02:31 PM

I have dealt with systems up to 500G

do this!!! times 4, however........

LiquidAquariums · 03/29/2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CHSUB

I have dealt with systems up to 500G

do this!!! times 4, however........

That's basically the idea. In my experience, the systems carry mostly the same components, just a bigger scale. That's why my main question was regarding suppliers. Also, suppliers selling large components will have knowledge in this area I could ask about as well.

71xlch · 03/29/2016, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidAquariums

Thanks everyone for the comments and tips. Always going to be haters, can't prevent that, but I can sure prove them wrong.

As a multiple business owner and athlete, I've learned to battle through adversity and rise as a better and more knowledgeable person and business owner.

Hater??? I just said if I was the person I'd be upset. For all I know you told them you don't have the experience, wasn't mentioned so I put my thoughts and now I'm a Hater.

I don't have time or the money for people to learn while they do work for me. Nor in the industry I'm in allow for that. Just personal experience.

bat21 · 03/29/2016, 08:51 PM

Just don't put any tangs in there. They need room to swim.

LiquidAquariums · 03/30/2016, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71xlch

Hater??? I just said if I was the person I'd be upset. For all I know you told them you don't have the experience, wasn't mentioned so I put my thoughts and now I'm a Hater.

I don't have time or the money for people to learn while they do work for me. Nor in the industry I'm in allow for that. Just personal experience.

I didn't directly call anyone a hater. Your comment did, however, come off a bit offensive instead of helpful like I had specifically asked in my post.

I value all opinions, good or bad. But the helpful ones are always more appreciative from my perspective as opposed to the ones saying "I'd be F-ed if I hired you".

71xlch · 03/30/2016, 05:40 AM

It was p I s $ e d not f'd. While it was sensored I believe the front p was still there. I can see where you would get upset if it started with a f.

username in use · 03/30/2016, 06:40 AM

Calm down fellas.

Reef Ruler · 03/30/2016, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bat21

just don't put any tangs in there. They need room to swim.

+1

Rubasu · 03/30/2016, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bat21

Just don't put any tangs in there. They need room to swim.

d-man · 03/30/2016, 08:08 AM

As stated above, aquarium engineering.
Bill is an extremely intelligent person, but also a bit...abrasive at times. Just understand it's hard for some people(Sheldon cooper type{aspie}) to slow themselves down for us normal folk. So if you do get a chance to talk with Bill, be aware he is a nice guy, just to the point.

03/28/2016, 08:48 PM	#1
LiquidAquariums Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Regina, SK, CAN Posts: 52	2000G Saltwater Aquarium Hey everyone, unfortunately, I do not currently have the named tank, however I have been hired to provide a 2000G setup for a client. I have dealt with systems up to 500G, but this is beyond my previous experiences. Are there any suggestions as to where to shop for the proper filtration components for a setup of this size? I also have my own renovation company and am familiar with Structural Engineers for their assistance with providing reports and whatnot. Limited information so far, but here's what I got: -2000G assuming display. Recommendations on sump& refugium size? -Location is in a basement. May need to be built on site somehow. -Due to the size, I am going to assume acrylic -Due to acrylic and size, I am going to assume $50,000+ -Will need electrical panel upgrade I am sure -Not sure if new house or existing. -Not sure of actual reef or acrylic reef -Budget is around $60K-$75K for the aquarium project. Thanks in advance for the recommendations and tips! PS. There may be a 5000G tank in the fall as well.

03/28/2016, 10:01 PM	#10
joesfiddy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Morris IL Posts: 518	Just call aquarium engineering.com __________________ 250 dd, 180 reef tank 100 gal sump, 75 reef tank 30 gallon sump, 40 gal frag tank, 12 gal nano Current Tank Info: 100 gal long reef, 75 gal reef, 40 gal frag tank

03/28/2016, 10:48 PM	#12
reefbroao Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Seattle Posts: 747	I vote sub it out man. You can learn from them and you will protect yourself from getting over your head which in return will safeguard your reputation. I don't see it as bad that you're looking for help. Passing up an opportunity like that would be a missed chance to greatly strengthen your business and knowledge. Not to mention your portfolio/ wallet. __________________ Reefer 170 E series.

03/29/2016, 02:31 PM	#16
CHSUB "Certified Hobby Expert" Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 2,038	I have dealt with systems up to 500G do this!!! times 4, however........ __________________ Goniopora Police _________________ building a 60"x36"x30" peninsula reef...follow at "NEW TANK BUILD" on reef discussion forum! http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2110638

03/29/2016, 08:51 PM	#19
bat21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 701	Just don't put any tangs in there. They need room to swim. __________________ --- Current Tank Info: 65g fowlr

03/28/2016, 08:57 PM	#2
71xlch Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 116	No offense but I'd be a bit ****ed if I hired someone for a tank only to find out they are surfing a forum on how to do what I asked.

03/28/2016, 09:15 PM	#4
Jeremiah_Conway Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 133	Sub it out for $50k charge customer $60k easy money

03/28/2016, 09:26 PM	#8
Drae RAIDER NATION! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: City of sin... Posts: 3,476	Mrc can help. My reef creations. Contact them.

03/29/2016, 12:08 AM	#14
RMD photography Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 23	As pointed out earlier, get ahold of Aquarium Engineering. The owner, Bill Wann, is the man who has the 20,000 gallon aquarium in his living room. Super nice guy too!! He makes all kinds of things, but has recently been posting about a "baby skimmer" as he calls it that would probably be about right for a 2k gallon tank.

03/29/2016, 02:23 PM	#15
LiquidAquariums Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Regina, SK, CAN Posts: 52	Thanks everyone for the comments and tips. Always going to be haters, can't prevent that, but I can sure prove them wrong. As a multiple business owner and athlete, I've learned to battle through adversity and rise as a better and more knowledgeable person and business owner.

03/30/2016, 05:40 AM	#21
71xlch Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 116	It was p I s $ e d not f'd. While it was sensored I believe the front p was still there. I can see where you would get upset if it started with a f.

03/30/2016, 06:40 AM	#22
username in use Sciencing Daily Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,560	Calm down fellas. __________________ Joshua "With fronds like these, who needs anemones?" - Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: multiple nano's sprinkled around the house

03/30/2016, 08:08 AM	#25
d-man Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Diego, ca Posts: 2,732	As stated above, aquarium engineering. Bill is an extremely intelligent person, but also a bit...abrasive at times. Just understand it's hard for some people(Sheldon cooper type{aspie}) to slow themselves down for us normal folk. So if you do get a chance to talk with Bill, be aware he is a nice guy, just to the point.