A Reef in the Sky - Page 68

shaggss · 09/20/2013, 10:48 PM

Thought I saw you yesterday, was this you?

MikeAshworth13 · 09/24/2013, 05:37 PM

Wow, this build is truly amazing!

I am new to the hobby myself and am planning a build relatively similar to yours. A rimless 90 Gallon 48Lx18Wx24H. I am currently in the process of quoting my tank with miracles and am debating on getting them to construct my stand as well. I really love your stands exterior design... How much did the stand cost?

Bello · 09/25/2013, 05:15 AM

Looking great

Are you able to take pics as easily as you were, when running pure T5's?

biggles · 09/25/2013, 05:50 AM

The new light looks great, the reef is disgustingly beautiful as always mate. I'm really pleased you haven't had any probs introducing the new light setup in regards to the corals. Did you start the LED's low and build them up or use a PAR meter to dial it in. Sorry for the questions but i'm sure others contemplating the hybrid upgrade would like to hear your thoughts on introducing the new LED light into the T5 system

v1...rotate · 09/25/2013, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark54321

Looks great !!! Funny my fixture doesn't have this clip to hold the acrylic from sagging, I guess they did it on newer models.

Thank you Mark. Yeah, I think it is on the new models.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancelot

Awesome!

Thanks Ancelot

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggss

Thought I saw you yesterday, was this you?

LOL... I watched the game on TV so it certainly wasn't me. Nearly died from the stress!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeAshworth13

Wow, this build is truly amazing!

I am new to the hobby myself and am planning a build relatively similar to yours. A rimless 90 Gallon 48Lx18Wx24H. I am currently in the process of quoting my tank with miracles and am debating on getting them to construct my stand as well. I really love your stands exterior design... How much did the stand cost?

Welcome Mike and thank you for your kind words. I am not sure of the cost as it was an all in one package with the move I did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bello

Looking great

Are you able to take pics as easily as you were, when running pure T5's?

Hi Bello, thank you. Yes the pictures are alot easier to take than just with LEDs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggles

The new light looks great, the reef is disgustingly beautiful as always mate. I'm really pleased you haven't had any probs introducing the new light setup in regards to the corals. Did you start the LED's low and build them up or use a PAR meter to dial it in. Sorry for the questions but i'm sure others contemplating the hybrid upgrade would like to hear your thoughts on introducing the new LED light into the T5 system

Thanks mate... No haven't got the PAR meter out yet but hope to do sometime soon. I'll answer your questions about the unit shortly in a new post. Cheers

v1...rotate · 09/25/2013, 10:16 AM

Initial impressions of the ATI Hybrid

I am one to not carry on about a new product that hasn't been proven or tested over time however I will simply say that so far this light unit is impressing me greatly. Time will tell if it continues to do so. I have written a few notes about my experience with this light unit so far.

Build Quality
As expected from German engineering... EXCELLENT!!

Functions
The functionality and programming ability of the light unit is extremely good. The unit can be programmed from the LED power supply or through a program that can be download from here. Install it on your computer, connect the LED power supply to your laptop (mine is vintage which runs windows XP), open up the program and bingo!!

I have the 8x80W + 4x75W Hybrid. There are two channels for the T5 bulbs. Channel 1 controls x4 bulbs (1,2,7 & 8) and channel 2 controls the other x4 bulbs (3,4,5 & 6). I have the dimmable Hybrid version so all bulbs can be fully controlled from 0-100% intensity at any time I choose. Each of the x4 LED clusters can be fully controlled, from intensity to colour representation. The program allows you to chose pre programmed colours that represent ATI bulbs (Blue +, Purple + etc) or you can customise each. This is achieved by adjusting the intensity of each of the 4 separate colour channels for each cluster of LEDs. The four colour channels are Red, Royal Blue, Blue and White. As you can imagine... it gives an exceptional amount of flexibility. I prefer to program it through the computer as it gives you a graphical representation.

Cooling fans
The cooling fans impress me as they run automatically when required and are triggered to operate by temperature sensors. Most importantly, I can't hear them at all due to my MP40W ES.

No more sag
The newer version of the Hybrid comes with a hole at each end of the unit to allow you to place a clip to stop the perspex from sagging due to heat, age and gravity. A most welcome addition.

Shimmer
I am pleased to say that this unit provides a shimmer effect with the use of LEDs. You can achieve a large shimmer effect by simply turning down the T5 intensity or vice versa if you only want a little. I personally little only a little shimmer.

Acclimatising the new lights
Besides the burning in of the T5 bulbs which I had already done, I went against protocol and ran the lights at full intensity from day one but of course monitored the corals closely. After 2 weeks, I have seen zero side effects, no burning of coral tips or bleaching of any sorts.

Evening shots

I have managed to take a few evening shots (something I find very hard to do).
This picture shows only the LEDs operating. Each cluster can be programmed to whatever appearance you choose: Blue Plus, Purple Plus, etc... It gives great flexibly.

In this picture, three of the four clusters of LEDs are at 2% intensity. The far right is at a higher intensity which is creating an awesome spot light effect. The scenarios you can create are endless.

I hope to get a few screenshots of the program and my light schedule soon.

SPotter · 09/25/2013, 10:19 AM

Looks awesome!!!!! So you are able to dim the t5's on your light? The 8x80 hybrid being sold in the states is not dimmable.

glaukos · 09/25/2013, 11:54 AM

dream tank!!
Love the way that your corals fill the tank and not the rock!
How many years do you have your achilles?

glaukos · 09/25/2013, 11:58 AM

dp sorry

Rogerh · 09/25/2013, 02:36 PM

The lamp looks sweet, I think I wan`t one for my tank too

One question, after looking at your last video(again), I wonder why you don`t use a filtersock on your returnpipes?
Do you find that with flow in your sump, the skimmer takes care of the detrius and other stuff that normaly a filtersock would catch?

BryceHS · 09/25/2013, 05:45 PM

Your tank looks great, love all the SPS

Alex T. · 09/25/2013, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPotter

Looks awesome!!!!! So you are able to dim the t5's on your light? The 8x80 hybrid being sold in the states is not dimmable.

Uh oh.

SPotter · 09/25/2013, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex T.

Uh oh.

stalker!

Newbie Aquarist · 09/26/2013, 04:53 PM

I know somebody who has the dimmible version of the ATIs. Have to look him up first.

v1...rotate · 09/26/2013, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPotter

Looks awesome!!!!! So you are able to dim the t5's on your light? The 8x80 hybrid being sold in the states is not dimmable.

Thanks... Yeah the 230V versions are fully dimmable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by glaukos

dream tank!!
Love the way that your corals fill the tank and not the rock!
How many years do you have your achilles?

Thankyou, I'm impressed too on how they have grown. I think I have had the Achilles for 3.5yrs. Certainly the boss of the reef.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogerh

The lamp looks sweet, I think I wan`t one for my tank too

One question, after looking at your last video(again), I wonder why you don`t use a filtersock on your returnpipes?
Do you find that with flow in your sump, the skimmer takes care of the detrius and other stuff that normaly a filtersock would catch?

Thank you. The only reason I don't use a filter sock on the drains is that they need replacing/washing every couple of days and that's something I don't want to do. Would it help more?... most certainly but it's not an option for me.
I have increased flow in both sections of the sump using x2 Tunze 6045 and this helps the detritus settling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryceHS

Your tank looks great, love all the SPS

Thank you Bryce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newbie Aquarist

I know somebody who has the dimmible version of the ATIs. Have to look him up first.

Yeah there are a lot that have dimmable units.

ryanrid · 09/27/2013, 12:39 AM

here are the PAR figures my brothers and my results with the 8x54w version
First number is T5+LED, (Number in brackets is LED only @ 100%)

will be interesting to see the difference with the 80w version

bulb combo should also be taken into account however

Reef_Noob · 09/27/2013, 03:53 AM

Those PAR number are damn impressive....
As expected this hybrid is a BEAST!!
The LEDs alone PAR are very impressive too....
Definately a boosted up unit...
"Reef In The Sky" is gonna leave the sky and gonna go OUTER SPACE now....

sahin · 09/27/2013, 09:12 AM

Those are VERY impressive PAR numbers. This is almost like MH (ie in terms of both T5+LED).

ormet · 09/30/2013, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1...rotate

Initial impressions of the ATI Hybrid

How is color blending from leds? Rainbows? My led fixture gives me seizures ....

ryanrid maybe you feel like chiming in as well.

br
Daniel

ryanrid · 09/30/2013, 05:51 PM

the colour blending is fine, it does not spotlight/disco effect like some units. TBH when all lights are on it looks like an old school MH T5 combo unit like the geissman infiniti.

DAA13 · 09/30/2013, 05:55 PM

So nice & clean and well planed ! I admire your organization skills .

Kurkis493 · 09/30/2013, 07:15 PM

My 24" hybrid came today!!! Where do we purchase the clips for the unit to hold-up the acrylic?

ormet · 10/01/2013, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanrid

the colour blending is fine, it does not spotlight/disco effect like some units. TBH when all lights are on it looks like an old school MH T5 combo unit like the geissman infiniti.

Thanks!

Reef_Noob · 10/01/2013, 02:38 AM

Hi Andrew,
I had a question...
What is your daily/weekly Alk drop or consumption?
Have you tested for that recently?
Is it fluctuating or the drop is consistent value?

Thanks in advance

v1...rotate · 10/04/2013, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanrid

here are the PAR figures my brothers and my results with the 8x54w version
First number is T5+LED, (Number in brackets is LED only @ 100%)

will be interesting to see the difference with the 80w version

bulb combo should also be taken into account however

Thanks for the photo Ryan. Your tank is looking great! I took some readings of my unit with the T5 and LEDs on at 100%. I'll post below.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reef_Noob

Those PAR number are damn impressive....
As expected this hybrid is a BEAST!!
The LEDs alone PAR are very impressive too....
Definately a boosted up unit...
"Reef In The Sky" is gonna leave the sky and gonna go OUTER SPACE now....

LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahin

Those are VERY impressive PAR numbers. This is almost like MH (ie in terms of both T5+LED).

I took some photos for comparison. They will be below

Quote:

Originally Posted by ormet

How is color blending from leds? Rainbows? My led fixture gives me seizures ....

ryanrid maybe you feel like chiming in as well.

br
Daniel

The colour blending fine. One thing I like is you don't get the disco effect on the sand bead as you do with a pure LED unit

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanrid

the colour blending is fine, it does not spotlight/disco effect like some units. TBH when all lights are on it looks like an old school MH T5 combo unit like the geissman infiniti.

Agreed

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAA13

So nice & clean and well planed ! I admire your organization skills .

Thank you

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurkis493

My 24" hybrid came today!!! Where do we purchase the clips for the unit to hold-up the acrylic?

Im not sure. Maybe contact your dealer. There are other options here ATI Powermodule Hybrid Club

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reef_Noob

Hi Andrew,
I had a question...
What is your daily/weekly Alk drop or consumption?
Have you tested for that recently?
Is it fluctuating or the drop is consistent value?

Thanks in advance

I took some screen shots of my dosing. My dosing amounts are actually starting to increase a fair bit

My ALK is approx 6
Daily dose is 130ml

Ca is 380 at the moment
Daily dose is 95ml

09/20/2013, 10:48 PM	#1676
shaggss Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,709	Thought I saw you yesterday, was this you? __________________ NEVER get eye level with an infants anus! New build, planning stages. 30 x 20 x 20", Geisemann Spectra 250W with Radium, Profilux controller, Profilux doser 2, Fluval SP4 return pump, Life Reef 28

09/25/2013, 10:16 AM	#1681
v1...rotate A Reef In The Sky Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 718	Initial impressions of the ATI Hybrid I am one to not carry on about a new product that hasn't been proven or tested over time however I will simply say that so far this light unit is impressing me greatly. Time will tell if it continues to do so. I have written a few notes about my experience with this light unit so far. Build Quality As expected from German engineering... EXCELLENT!! Functions The functionality and programming ability of the light unit is extremely good. The unit can be programmed from the LED power supply or through a program that can be download from here. Install it on your computer, connect the LED power supply to your laptop (mine is vintage which runs windows XP), open up the program and bingo!! I have the 8x80W + 4x75W Hybrid. There are two channels for the T5 bulbs. Channel 1 controls x4 bulbs (1,2,7 & 8) and channel 2 controls the other x4 bulbs (3,4,5 & 6). I have the dimmable Hybrid version so all bulbs can be fully controlled from 0-100% intensity at any time I choose. Each of the x4 LED clusters can be fully controlled, from intensity to colour representation. The program allows you to chose pre programmed colours that represent ATI bulbs (Blue +, Purple + etc) or you can customise each. This is achieved by adjusting the intensity of each of the 4 separate colour channels for each cluster of LEDs. The four colour channels are Red, Royal Blue, Blue and White. As you can imagine... it gives an exceptional amount of flexibility. I prefer to program it through the computer as it gives you a graphical representation. Cooling fans The cooling fans impress me as they run automatically when required and are triggered to operate by temperature sensors. Most importantly, I can't hear them at all due to my MP40W ES. No more sag The newer version of the Hybrid comes with a hole at each end of the unit to allow you to place a clip to stop the perspex from sagging due to heat, age and gravity. A most welcome addition. Shimmer I am pleased to say that this unit provides a shimmer effect with the use of LEDs. You can achieve a large shimmer effect by simply turning down the T5 intensity or vice versa if you only want a little. I personally little only a little shimmer. Acclimatising the new lights Besides the burning in of the T5 bulbs which I had already done, I went against protocol and ran the lights at full intensity from day one but of course monitored the corals closely. After 2 weeks, I have seen zero side effects, no burning of coral tips or bleaching of any sorts. Evening shots I have managed to take a few evening shots (something I find very hard to do). This picture shows only the LEDs operating. Each cluster can be programmed to whatever appearance you choose: Blue Plus, Purple Plus, etc... It gives great flexibly. In this picture, three of the four clusters of LEDs are at 2% intensity. The far right is at a higher intensity which is creating an awesome spot light effect. The scenarios you can create are endless. I hope to get a few screenshots of the program and my light schedule soon. __________________ 'A Reef in the Sky' Zeovit Featured Tank 2012 Reef Central TOTM Nov 2013 Reef Hobbyist Magazine Featured Tank 2015 Current Tank Info: 'A Reef in the Sky'

09/25/2013, 10:19 AM	#1682
SPotter Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 5,691	Looks awesome!!!!! So you are able to dim the t5's on your light? The 8x80 hybrid being sold in the states is not dimmable. __________________ Steve Am I really doing all of this for a fish tank?????? Current Tank Info: 360g Envision Acrylic Tank, Closed Loops, Vectra L1's, MP40QD's, 400w Radiums, Regal 300ext, Dastaco Ext3 CaRx, Controlled by GHL Profilux

09/25/2013, 11:54 AM	#1683
glaukos Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,106	dream tank!! Love the way that your corals fill the tank and not the rock! How many years do you have your achilles? __________________ Mike Just doing my hobby and having great fun with it....no room/need for drama:) the only way to win with a toxic person, is not to play

09/25/2013, 11:58 AM	#1684
glaukos Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,106	dp sorry __________________ Mike Just doing my hobby and having great fun with it....no room/need for drama:) the only way to win with a toxic person, is not to play Last edited by glaukos; 09/25/2013 at 11:59 AM. Reason: double post

09/24/2013, 05:37 PM	#1677
MikeAshworth13 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Whitby, Ontario Posts: 1	Wow, this build is truly amazing! I am new to the hobby myself and am planning a build relatively similar to yours. A rimless 90 Gallon 48Lx18Wx24H. I am currently in the process of quoting my tank with miracles and am debating on getting them to construct my stand as well. I really love your stands exterior design... How much did the stand cost?

09/25/2013, 05:15 AM	#1678
Bello Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,246	Looking great Are you able to take pics as easily as you were, when running pure T5's?

09/25/2013, 05:50 AM	#1679
biggles Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 3,907	The new light looks great, the reef is disgustingly beautiful as always mate. I'm really pleased you haven't had any probs introducing the new light setup in regards to the corals. Did you start the LED's low and build them up or use a PAR meter to dial it in. Sorry for the questions but i'm sure others contemplating the hybrid upgrade would like to hear your thoughts on introducing the new LED light into the T5 system

09/25/2013, 02:36 PM	#1685
Rogerh Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stabekk, Norway Posts: 131	The lamp looks sweet, I think I wan`t one for my tank too One question, after looking at your last video(again), I wonder why you don`t use a filtersock on your returnpipes? Do you find that with flow in your sump, the skimmer takes care of the detrius and other stuff that normaly a filtersock would catch? __________________ -Roger`s Lagoon- WoHa 455L, Vortech MP40Ews x 2, Eheim 3000, Deltec Apf 800, ATI Sunpower 6x54w,Aqua Medic Helix pro 18w UV. Current Tank Info: Wohaa 455L

09/25/2013, 05:45 PM	#1686
BryceHS Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 11	Your tank looks great, love all the SPS

09/26/2013, 04:53 PM	#1689
Newbie Aquarist Reefing is my middle name Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 5,796	I know somebody who has the dimmible version of the ATIs. Have to look him up first.

09/27/2013, 12:39 AM	#1691
ryanrid Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: sydney australia Posts: 1,425	here are the PAR figures my brothers and my results with the 8x54w version First number is T5+LED, (Number in brackets is LED only @ 100%) will be interesting to see the difference with the 80w version bulb combo should also be taken into account however

09/27/2013, 03:53 AM	#1692
Reef_Noob Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,460	Those PAR number are damn impressive.... As expected this hybrid is a BEAST!! The LEDs alone PAR are very impressive too.... Definately a boosted up unit... "Reef In The Sky" is gonna leave the sky and gonna go OUTER SPACE now.... __________________ If ya gonna do it...then do it right !! BUILDING A DREAM....SPS Dominated 105cm x 51cm x 54cm (Low Iron Belgian Glass)....Please visit my homepage for build thread. LED Lighting (CREE Main Unit 60w x2, T5 and T8 LED tubes), LED RGB-P Light bar, DIY Sump, Bubble King 180 Gen.2 Skimmer, TECO TR15 Chiller, Sicce Multi Return pump, X-Wave Rotary Device, Vortech MP40 ES, Hydor Korallia Wavemakers(2800 x2, 4000 x2), RR Wavemaker, 2x Nano Wavemakers, SIAM Ocean Media Reactor, Kent Phosphate Reactor, 6 Stage RO/DI unit, Ginko Sea Auto-top System. Current Tank Info: DREAM 1.0 is up and running..,DREAM 2.0 build is underway (Read on from Page 25)

09/27/2013, 09:12 AM	#1693
sahin Ultimate Reefer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,540	Those are VERY impressive PAR numbers. This is almost like MH (ie in terms of both T5+LED).

09/30/2013, 05:51 PM	#1695
ryanrid Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: sydney australia Posts: 1,425	the colour blending is fine, it does not spotlight/disco effect like some units. TBH when all lights are on it looks like an old school MH T5 combo unit like the geissman infiniti.

09/30/2013, 05:55 PM	#1696
DAA13 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 9	So nice & clean and well planed ! I admire your organization skills .

09/30/2013, 07:15 PM	#1697
Kurkis493 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 148	My 24" hybrid came today!!! Where do we purchase the clips for the unit to hold-up the acrylic?

10/01/2013, 02:38 AM	#1699
Reef_Noob Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,460	Hi Andrew, I had a question... What is your daily/weekly Alk drop or consumption? Have you tested for that recently? Is it fluctuating or the drop is consistent value? Thanks in advance __________________ If ya gonna do it...then do it right !! BUILDING A DREAM....SPS Dominated 105cm x 51cm x 54cm (Low Iron Belgian Glass)....Please visit my homepage for build thread. LED Lighting (CREE Main Unit 60w x2, T5 and T8 LED tubes), LED RGB-P Light bar, DIY Sump, Bubble King 180 Gen.2 Skimmer, TECO TR15 Chiller, Sicce Multi Return pump, X-Wave Rotary Device, Vortech MP40 ES, Hydor Korallia Wavemakers(2800 x2, 4000 x2), RR Wavemaker, 2x Nano Wavemakers, SIAM Ocean Media Reactor, Kent Phosphate Reactor, 6 Stage RO/DI unit, Ginko Sea Auto-top System. Current Tank Info: DREAM 1.0 is up and running..,DREAM 2.0 build is underway (Read on from Page 25)