Pga's "Simple" 18 gallon Frag Tank

pga7602 · 01/12/2018, 02:15 PM

I've had this frag tank running for almost a year now but was always lazy to post about it. The tank dimensions and it's simplistic utilization of equipment was inspired by fellow RC member (Watchguy123). Mark gave me various pointers along the way, but the idea behind the frag tank is that it is skimmer-less and lacks any live rock.

What????

Here are the specs:

Tank: 24x24x10 Visio glass tank
Skimmer: What skimmer?
Sump: What sump?
Controller: What controller?
Flow: Gutted Aquaclear 20, 1 Tunze Modded Nanostream
Doser: Cheap Jeabo
Doser Containers: VOSS water bottle

Lighting: Cheapest china box on ebay with the nobs for intensity.
Bio Filteration: 1 8x8x4 Marine Pure Block

The lights are modded by changing out 2 red and 2 green diodes with UV diodes. All lenses were removed for better spread. The only real filtration is via the Marine Pure block you see inside the tank. There is no live rock. Other than corals, there is a sixline wrasse and a bunch of snails. This setup really showed me that reefing, even with high end sps corals does not necessary mean high dollar equipment.

pga7602 · 01/12/2018, 02:15 PM

bowlopho · 01/12/2018, 02:55 PM

Nice and simple. How is your maintenance routine and how often do you feed the 6 line

LesPaulPlayer · 01/12/2018, 03:12 PM

Very nice. What intensity do you run each channel on the black box?

solitude127 · 01/12/2018, 03:37 PM

K.I.S.S. I like it. How to provide nutrients for the corals? also, what type of lighting is your DT again?

Red_Blenny · 01/12/2018, 03:54 PM

Did you built your own stand? Looks pretty sweet.

FishyBeaner · 01/12/2018, 04:03 PM

Nice. I like it. So simple.

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Daltonbilecki · 01/12/2018, 04:06 PM

Planning on doing something similar. Except with a lagoon 25 and use a reptile rack as the stand. Hopefully i actually make it happen

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pga7602 · 01/12/2018, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowlopho

Nice and simple. How is your maintenance routine and how often do you feed the 6 line

Thank you. I do weekly 5 gallon water changes and fees the wrasse at least twice a day.

pga7602 · 01/12/2018, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LesPaulPlayer

Very nice. What intensity do you run each channel on the black box?

Being one of the cheapest version of a china black box, the nobs are not labeled. I would guess 40 on whites and 75 on blues.

jojojo16 · 01/12/2018, 06:25 PM

Hi all!

Newbie here. Can someone answer this for me, please.

I'm supposed to post this a new entry but it seems i'm not allowed 'cause I can't find the option where to do that.

Anyway, here is my question:
i have a 90 gallon tank that my fish maintenance guy says looks suspect. he says the silicone job doesn't look that great. but he also said that i should never use a used tank i purchased from someone else. always buy new. i've bought this tank used, and i've filled it with water it has had no leaks. should i be super worried, or should i trust a used tank if it still holds water.

Also, should used tanks be stored with water in them? that's what he is telling me to keep the seals from drying out. I've never heard that before. is that true?

if a tank fails, is it usually a slow leak or does it break and gush everywhere?

Hope someone answers me. Thanks!

hersheyb · 01/12/2018, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jojojo16

Hi all!

Newbie here. Can someone answer this for me, please.

I'm supposed to post this a new entry but it seems i'm not allowed 'cause I can't find the option where to do that.

Anyway, here is my question:
i have a 90 gallon tank that my fish maintenance guy says looks suspect. he says the silicone job doesn't look that great. but he also said that i should never use a used tank i purchased from someone else. always buy new. i've bought this tank used, and i've filled it with water it has had no leaks. should i be super worried, or should i trust a used tank if it still holds water.

Also, should used tanks be stored with water in them? that's what he is telling me to keep the seals from drying out. I've never heard that before. is that true?

if a tank fails, is it usually a slow leak or does it break and gush everywhere?

Hope someone answers me. Thanks!

Ummm wrong forum??

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KWoo008 · 01/12/2018, 06:46 PM

Love the aluminum T-Bar stand!!

dodgerblew · 01/12/2018, 07:08 PM

I agree, simple and sweet. I do want to correct you on your total volume Tri. 24x24x10 is 25 gallons

rorroreef · 01/12/2018, 07:50 PM

Only an obsessed reef geek would spend all that money on equipment and electricity to hold 6 frags....Hahahahaa.....oh and btw, I mean that as a compliment tri : p

pga7602 · 01/12/2018, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solitude127

K.I.S.S. I like it. How to provide nutrients for the corals? also, what type of lighting is your DT again?

Thanks Mike. My DT is ATI sunpower 6 bulb of course

I feed the wrasse twice a week and I dose NO3

pga7602 · 01/12/2018, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Blenny

Did you built your own stand? Looks pretty sweet.

Yes I did. Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWoo008

Love the aluminum T-Bar stand!!

Thanks, it came out better than expected.

pga7602 · 01/12/2018, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgerblew

I agree, simple and sweet. I do want to correct you on your total volume Tri. 24x24x10 is 25 gallons

You got me there Rik. Thanks for the correction. I've been using the tank's actual volume for calculating things like dosing and mixed the two up. Being a rimmed tank I leave about 2 inches of the tank unfilled. That along with the gigantic Marine Pure block puts me at 18-19 gallons of actual volume.

pga7602 · 01/12/2018, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishyBeaner

Nice. I like it. So simple.

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Thanks. Its located in my office, so I wanted to keep things simple with less clutter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daltonbilecki

Planning on doing something similar. Except with a lagoon 25 and use a reptile rack as the stand. Hopefully i actually make it happen

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That sounds like a good plan. An AIO design likebthe lagoon should make things more straight forward.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rorroreef

Only an obsessed reef geek would spend all that money on equipment and electricity to hold 6 frags....Hahahahaa.....oh and btw, I mean that as a compliment tri : p

You made me look!! 51 frags and counting!

honeycombz · 01/13/2018, 12:55 AM

Stands on point! Where did you source your aluminum?

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babyjess210 · 01/13/2018, 10:32 AM

Are those the OG Orange Crush Acan with green center?? I got some from Sanh aka Lowbudget about 10 years ago and cannot find anything that bright with green center. If so lmk if you want to sell. Thanks

pga7602 · 01/13/2018, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyjess210

Are those the OG Orange Crush Acan with green center?? I got some from Sanh aka Lowbudget about 10 years ago and cannot find anything that bright with green center. If so lmk if you want to sell. Thanks

Yes they are. You are Kenny right? If so just contact me through my agent Jimmy007.

pga7602 · 01/13/2018, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeycombz

Stands on point! Where did you source your aluminum?

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Glad you like it. You can find everything here. Just dont expect it to be cheap. I just like the look, as it fits my office decor.

https://www.8020.net

honeycombz · 01/13/2018, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pga7602

Glad you like it. You can find everything here. Just dont expect it to be cheap. I just like the look, as it fits my office decor.

https://www.8020.net

Thank you tons. I am the same way, I’d rather pay a little more and have it look the way I want

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babyjess210 · 01/14/2018, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pga7602

Yes they are. You are Kenny right? If so just contact me through my agent Jimmy007.

Yep those are it!! Agent contacted but lmk if I can pick up from you, sanh or Toan. Word on the street is that corals Jimmy handles are cursed. Lol

01/12/2018, 02:15 PM	#1
pga7602 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,488	Pga's "Simple" 18 gallon Frag Tank I've had this frag tank running for almost a year now but was always lazy to post about it. The tank dimensions and it's simplistic utilization of equipment was inspired by fellow RC member (Watchguy123). Mark gave me various pointers along the way, but the idea behind the frag tank is that it is skimmer-less and lacks any live rock. What???? Here are the specs: Tank: 24x24x10 Visio glass tank Skimmer: What skimmer? Sump: What sump? Controller: What controller? Flow: Gutted Aquaclear 20, 1 Tunze Modded Nanostream Doser: Cheap Jeabo Doser Containers: VOSS water bottle Lighting: Cheapest china box on ebay with the nobs for intensity. Bio Filteration: 1 8x8x4 Marine Pure Block The lights are modded by changing out 2 red and 2 green diodes with UV diodes. All lenses were removed for better spread. The only real filtration is via the Marine Pure block you see inside the tank. There is no live rock. Other than corals, there is a sixline wrasse and a bunch of snails. This setup really showed me that reefing, even with high end sps corals does not necessary mean high dollar equipment.

01/12/2018, 02:55 PM	#3
bowlopho Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 684	Nice and simple. How is your maintenance routine and how often do you feed the 6 line __________________ im nuvo 40 w/ XR30w G4

01/12/2018, 03:37 PM	#5
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	K.I.S.S. I like it. How to provide nutrients for the corals? also, what type of lighting is your DT again? __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

01/12/2018, 04:03 PM	#7
FishyBeaner IEMAS Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fontana Posts: 1,796	Nice. I like it. So simple. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk __________________ Ev'e 150G... RIP =( 40B Quarantine Current Tank Info: Visio 72x30x24, Aqua Illumination Sol Blues, 2 MP40's, Alpha 200 Skimmer, Geo 612 calcium reactor, Apex Aqua Controller.

01/12/2018, 06:46 PM	#13
KWoo008 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lake Balboa, CA Posts: 2,526	Love the aluminum T-Bar stand!! __________________ Kelly

01/12/2018, 03:12 PM	#4
LesPaulPlayer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 445	Very nice. What intensity do you run each channel on the black box?

01/12/2018, 03:54 PM	#6
Red_Blenny Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 345	Did you built your own stand? Looks pretty sweet.

01/12/2018, 04:06 PM	#8
Daltonbilecki Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 282	Planning on doing something similar. Except with a lagoon 25 and use a reptile rack as the stand. Hopefully i actually make it happen Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01/12/2018, 06:25 PM	#11
jojojo16 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4	Hi all! Newbie here. Can someone answer this for me, please. I'm supposed to post this a new entry but it seems i'm not allowed 'cause I can't find the option where to do that. Anyway, here is my question: i have a 90 gallon tank that my fish maintenance guy says looks suspect. he says the silicone job doesn't look that great. but he also said that i should never use a used tank i purchased from someone else. always buy new. i've bought this tank used, and i've filled it with water it has had no leaks. should i be super worried, or should i trust a used tank if it still holds water. Also, should used tanks be stored with water in them? that's what he is telling me to keep the seals from drying out. I've never heard that before. is that true? if a tank fails, is it usually a slow leak or does it break and gush everywhere? Hope someone answers me. Thanks!

01/12/2018, 07:08 PM	#14
dodgerblew Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Palmdale, Ca Posts: 12,413	I agree, simple and sweet. I do want to correct you on your total volume Tri. 24x24x10 is 25 gallons __________________ Rik Obladi Oblada, life goes on Brah! Current Tank Info: Tankless in TX and watching from the sidelines

01/12/2018, 07:50 PM	#15
rorroreef Resident Wise Guy Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,215	Only an obsessed reef geek would spend all that money on equipment and electricity to hold 6 frags....Hahahahaa.....oh and btw, I mean that as a compliment tri : p

01/13/2018, 12:55 AM	#20
honeycombz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Orange County Posts: 43	Stands on point! Where did you source your aluminum? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Innovative Marine Nuvo 20 - Mixed Reef Current Tank Info: Nuvo 20 - Mixed Reef

01/13/2018, 10:32 AM	#21
babyjess210 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Culver City, CA Posts: 1,693	Are those the OG Orange Crush Acan with green center?? I got some from Sanh aka Lowbudget about 10 years ago and cannot find anything that bright with green center. If so lmk if you want to sell. Thanks