Skimmer Q&A Thread

[VoiceInTheDeser]

Most skimmer ratings mean nothing and those skimmers would not handle your aquarium. In most cases you need to almost double the size skimmer unless you are running other nutrient reduction methods.

Jason has some recommendation that would fit your tank from that company.

Gotcha. These are things I'm learning, thank you for the input. I'm willing to spend the money if it's necessary, I just didn't think I was far off.

[jason2459]

Getting setup in new sump build out. Using the stock recommended setup and pump. I will be trying out various pumps and mazzei venturi's playing around with it.
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Turned it on the evening of June 2nd and letting it break in. I was figuring it would be close to 2 weeks to break in.
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Took a reading of the air draw of the mag1800 and stock venturi setup on the mtx. Its getting around 14 scfh air draw.





For anyone that cares I finished off my testing with this skimmer for now.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2519839&page=9

[NyReefNoob]

reeftivo, you will get a better result using a pressure rated pump on that skimmer, mag and simular pumps dont always put out the same pressure and dont hold well under pressure and increase the heat out put of the pump, if you decide to stay with the mag pump get rid of the screws for different one's those eventually rust. and on another note make sure to keep venturi clean,

[jason2459]

Actually a pump under pressure will put out less heat as the wattage used drops. And a mag 18 on a 24" lifereef would kick butt.

[reeftivo]

reeftivo, you will get a better result using a pressure rated pump on that skimmer, mag and simular pumps dont always put out the same pressure and dont hold well under pressure and increase the heat out put of the pump, if you decide to stay with the mag pump get rid of the screws for different one's those eventually rust. and on another note make sure to keep venturi clean,

Thanks nyreefnoob for the info.
I'm limited at this point to a submersible though and from what I see, the true pressure rated pumps are external. I'm thinking if I don't end up going with something like a dcs7000, I would just go with one of the mags since they have always been one of the better submersibles against head pressure. I'll take your advise and look into replacing the volute screws;)

[shred5]

Mag are work horses but they are not efficient pumps.
I used a mag when I had my life reef skimmer and it worked pretty well.
I have use them in my pond to.
What is funny the only catastrophic fail I ever had with a pump was a mag.
I was in the living room and the lights started dimming. I walked into the tank room and in my sump sparks and black smoke were pouring out of my sump. It put this black oil type slick in the water. It took out a big chunk of my tank. I was using one as a return pump and this was like 20 years ago or something.. They still are a reliable pump though.

[jason2459]

Shred sounds like the epoxy melted.

The mag18 was the most efficient when comparing skimmate produced to wattage used. This was against a waveline DC pump and an Aquamaxx EM300 needlewheel. I'd have been able to compare it to my other skimmers to if I had their watts used. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2519839&page=9

I've also never had issues with my mag drive screws. Have had one in saltwater since 2007. Though I know some people coat them with silicone.

The waveline apex ready version I am using now has enough head pressure rating that rates it right up there with pressure rated pumps.

[shred5]

Shred sounds like the epoxy melted.

The mag18 was the most efficient when comparing skimmate produced to wattage used. This was against a waveline DC pump and an Aquamaxx EM300 needlewheel. I'd have been able to compare it to my other skimmers to if I had their watts used. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2519839&page=9

I've also never had issues with my mag drive screws. Have had one in saltwater since 2007. Though I know some people coat them with silicone.

The waveline apex ready version I am using now has enough head pressure rating that rates it right up there with pressure rated pumps.


Yea I am sure that is what happened.
Waveline dc pumps are not good for pressure rated situations.
I did coat my screws with silicone.
If it were me doing it all over again I would probably look at a sicce pump.

[jason2459]

The apex ready kit (at least for the dc 12000 waveline) also swapped out the prop giving it over 22' of head height capability. The mazzei venturi didn't put a dent on it's max output. I was surprised and quite impressed.

apex ready upgrade replacing both controller and prop increasing head height to 22.96'
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[reeftivo]

Hey all!

I will be purchasing the LR VS3-24 in september but had to pull the trigger on the overstock RD ins80s (w-sicce) that a company is selling for $175 out the door including shipping WTH??

Any one used the old RD skimmers with a sicce? If so, what are your thoughts?

I plan to use it on my old system which i will be setting up in my office after the 1st of the year.

I figure if it doesn't perform, for $174, I could still have a good model to tinker with.

If all else fails the CO1 is always there. Time to give it a good cleaning and well deserved rest as a back up.

[shred5]

Hey all!

I will be purchasing the LR VS3-24 in september but had to pull the trigger on the overstock RD ins80s (w-sicce) that a company is selling for $175 out the door including shipping WTH??

Any one used the old RD skimmers with a sicce? If so, what are your thoughts?

I plan to use it on my old system which i will be setting up in my office after the 1st of the year.

I figure if it doesn't perform, for $174, I could still have a good model to tinker with.

If all else fails the CO1 is always there. Time to give it a good cleaning and well deserved rest as a back up.

They are basically the same as the old Euroreef skimmers, I used a few Euroreef skimmrs and they are fine skimmers. They are a little older design and some of the new skimmers are a little more efficient but they do the job.

[jason2459]

Hey all!

I will be purchasing the LR VS3-24 in september but had to pull the trigger on the overstock RD ins80s (w-sicce) that a company is selling for $175 out the door including shipping WTH??

Any one used the old RD skimmers with a sicce? If so, what are your thoughts?

I plan to use it on my old system which i will be setting up in my office after the 1st of the year.

I figure if it doesn't perform, for $174, I could still have a good model to tinker with.

If all else fails the CO1 is always there. Time to give it a good cleaning and well deserved rest as a back up.


That's a good deal. The classic ER/RD perform well. Many have loved them over time.

[jason2459]

Thought I remembered this video

The RD ins180 with a sicce pump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxuSZQTHRZo

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[reeftivo]

thanks guys!

I have an old vertex version of the RD ins80 and the resun ump it came with was a piece of junk. Sucker vibrated like there was no tomorrow and didn't produce enough air for the body. I had to basically close the wedge/stand pipe to get it to skim at all and run it deepr than the recommended 6.5". I had always read hit or miss (mostly hit) reviews of RD INS80 but nothing really on the INS80S with the sicce.

That 180 looks pretty good in the video.

Thanks again and Happy Reefing!

Tivo

[shred5]

thanks guys!

I have an old vertex version of the RD ins80 and the resun ump it came with was a piece of junk. Sucker vibrated like there was no tomorrow and didn't produce enough air for the body. I had to basically close the wedge/stand pipe to get it to skim at all and run it deepr than the recommended 6.5". I had always read hit or miss (mostly hit) reviews of RD INS80 but nothing really on the INS80S with the sicce.

That 180 looks pretty good in the video.

Thanks again and Happy Reefing!

Tivo

Resun do I need to say more!

[reeftivo]

Resun do I need to say more!

LOL how true!

the best results i ever got from it was when the case shattered after hitting the wall in the back yard after throwing it.

[alfred14]

I have a question on how to tune in a skimmer. I have refugium with a built in skimmer that I either have the collection cup to high and it doesn't skin anything or to low and it skins a full cup of clear liquid in one day. It's a CPR or a copy cat. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.


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[jason2459]

Adjust in very small tiny amounts once per day until dialed in. If its brand new raise the collection cup high and not skim much or anything for a few days and you may find it start reach up to it. Then like mentioned, very slowly in very small increments lower the cup. I would only lower it once every couple days until its at a level you want.

[shred5]

I have a question on how to tune in a skimmer. I have refugium with a built in skimmer that I either have the collection cup to high and it doesn't skin anything or to low and it skins a full cup of clear liquid in one day. It's a CPR or a copy cat. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.


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Might be able to help if we knew what skimmer..
It could be a bad skimmer. I recently tried a cheap skimmer on my frag system and it was just not a good skimmer, some cheap skimmers never produce. There are also getting to be pretty many skimmers out there that just are not designed well and either overflow or produce nothing.

[alfred14]

Might be able to help if we knew what skimmer..
It could be a bad skimmer. I recently tried a cheap skimmer on my frag system and it was just not a good skimmer, some cheap skimmers never produce. There are also getting to be pretty many skimmers out there that just are not designed well and either overflow or produce nothing.



It's the cpr aquafuge or a knock off brand. They are square with a rectangular collection cup.


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[shred5]

Well I do not know if it is the older style or newer style but the older style really never was that great, It is a really old design. They have come out with a newer design that works just ok. Problem with HOB skimmers is they do not perform as well as in-sump skimmers but some of them really are not bad.

The other issue with them is they usually do not have much adjustment. I have seen allot of the CPR skimmers over the years but never owned one. With most hob skimmers you can raise or lower the cup for adjustment. Occasionally they put a valve on the air input to help adjust air. Allot HOB skimmers are designed to work right with out of the box with very little adjustment.


With most skimmers the adjustment comes from restricting the water going out which raises or lowers the water in the skimmer. This is accomplished somewhat on some HOB skimmers by raising the cup. If you restrict the water going out of a HOB skimmer you could have a flood.

The other method is raising or lower the sump level which add or removes back pressure on the pump. Well there is no way to do this on a hob obviously.

DC skimmers you can adjust the speed of the pump. This is usually not too useful except in case where your skimmer might over flow because you added a food that causes overflows like Larry's fish eggs or maybe you used epoxy which changes surface tention. A good skimmer should be designed to run at full speed. Why not process as much water and air as possible.

Restricting air is another way to adjust a skimmer. This usually is not needed with good skimmers because they are designed right and to run fully open. But this can be a useful tool even so..

I know my post covers more than just HOB but it gives others an idea for what to do with either type of skimmer.

[shred5]

LOL how true!

the best results i ever got from it was when the case shattered after hitting the wall in the back yard after throwing it.


Nice.. LOL

[rtparty]

Any thoughts on Cadlights skimmers? I've found a 50g Artisan II setup and the guy is asking $80 for the PLS-100 I believe. Should I avoid this skimmer or will it do the job?

The tank will not be heavily stocked and will be mostly LPS.

Thanks all!

[chercm]

for return pump , folks will choose something like 10X the total volume . is there such thing for skimmer ? is it 4x ?

[chercm]

for return pump , folks will choose something like 10X the total volume . is there such thing for skimmer ? is it 4x ?



Anyone ???


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[jason2459]

It's not common

[bif24701]

It's the cpr aquafuge or a knock off brand. They are square with a rectangular collection cup.


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Is it a ETSS? How about a picture?


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[Nola70115]

Hi all. I'm a noob with a question. I've got a Tunze 9004 skimmer in a 30 gallon nano tank. It's about 3 weeks old and has worked like a charm since I plugged it in (at least since I figured out what to do with the air valve.) Today I unplugged it to move it to a different corner on my tank. Set it up in the other spot, plug it back in, and nothing. I can't hear the motor running at all. The outlet is definitely still working, the unit just isn't doing anything. Is it likely I fried the motor when I unplugged/replugged? I've still got a week to return it but I'm wondering if there is something obvious I should try to fix it first. I did open it up and reconnect the air hose but that hasn't made any difference.

[wings516]

Looking at running (2) skimmers.

In between the...

Vertex Alpha 300

Reef Octo Elite 220int


Love the DC aspect of the octo and half the cost. Must be a reason Vertex wants to sell for double the cost though... Thoughts?

[Chris Lakies]

Hey guys i have about 60 gallons total water. 50 gallon main. I was running a omega 150 on the 120 gallon i used to have. Very very good skimmer! However it doesn't fit very well in my smaller sump. Im looking for something compact but that is quality and works well. Not really worried about price. The skimz sv203 looks promising but not too sure about the quality. I like the dc pump and like that the pump is in the skimmer body.

[jason2459]

Hi all. I'm a noob with a question. I've got a Tunze 9004 skimmer in a 30 gallon nano tank. It's about 3 weeks old and has worked like a charm since I plugged it in (at least since I figured out what to do with the air valve.) Today I unplugged it to move it to a different corner on my tank. Set it up in the other spot, plug it back in, and nothing. I can't hear the motor running at all. The outlet is definitely still working, the unit just isn't doing anything. Is it likely I fried the motor when I unplugged/replugged? I've still got a week to return it but I'm wondering if there is something obvious I should try to fix it first. I did open it up and reconnect the air hose but that hasn't made any difference.
Have you posted in the Tunze sponsor forum section here? I know when I've had questions the Tunze rep on here was excellent.
Looking at running (2) skimmers.

In between the...

Vertex Alpha 300

Reef Octo Elite 220int


Love the DC aspect of the octo and half the cost. Must be a reason Vertex wants to sell for double the cost though... Thoughts?


Of those two I'd go with the ReefOctopus. Vertex gets great reviews for their 180 and under skimmers. Not sure their bigger skimmers are worth it.

[reeftivo]

Hi all. I'm a noob with a question. I've got a Tunze 9004 skimmer in a 30 gallon nano tank. It's about 3 weeks old and has worked like a charm since I plugged it in (at least since I figured out what to do with the air valve.) Today I unplugged it to move it to a different corner on my tank. Set it up in the other spot, plug it back in, and nothing. I can't hear the motor running at all. The outlet is definitely still working, the unit just isn't doing anything. Is it likely I fried the motor when I unplugged/replugged? I've still got a week to return it but I'm wondering if there is something obvious I should try to fix it first. I did open it up and reconnect the air hose but that hasn't made any difference.
Sounds like the air line got detached. Can you see water movement in the neck?

[alfred14]

Is it a ETSS? How about a picture?


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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161009/4cca24a116b8f24bfc6aa8e293d0eaeb.jpg this is the one.



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[alfred14]

It looks like this one. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161009/1977a17508767cd9978f3a82e40c9f42.jpg


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[jason2459]

Ok, so that's not like a CPR at all. That's one of those Refugium/skimmer hybrids. Those are not very good at being either.

[FLSharkvictim]

I have owned a lot of different skimmers in the 20 years I have been in this hobby and I have never heard such a quite skimmer and my EcoTech pump in my life. You can't even tell that they are running. The water that trickles down into my Overflow boxes is louder then both pumps running. HIGHLY recommend Skimz protein skimmers.. My opinion they are better then the Octopus and the Vortez since I have owned both of them in the past. Another + about Skimz you dont have to deal with the MFG, you deal directly with Bulk Reef Supply.. I had a small issues wit the pump and I had a brand new skimmer sent to me with in 5 days.

TANK INFO
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120 Mixed Reef
Ecotech M1 pump
Skimz 163 DC Montzer Series skimmer
Custom sump / Refuge
2 Maxspect Gyre XF130's Pumps
2 AI Hydra TwentySix HD LED Fixtures
Celestial C35W Maxspect Grow Spot light
Aqua UV Ultraviolet Sterilizer 25w
BRS Dual Media reactor
Eshoops IV Master doser
Tunze 3155 Auto Top Off

[shred5]

Ok, so that's not like a CPR at all. That's one of those Refugium/skimmer hybrids. Those are not very good at being either.

Actually that is a stock picture of a CPR AquaFuge 2 Hang-on Refugium with Protein Skimmer.

Still not much of a fan of CPR.

[jason2459]

Actually that is a stock picture of a CPR AquaFuge 2 Hang-on Refugium with Protein Skimmer.

Still not much of a fan of CPR.
When I think of a cpr skimmer its their skimmer not that thing. I used to have a cpr skimmer. It was ok. It was better then the seaclone or coralife skimmer I've also used.

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[jason2459]

I have owned a lot of different skimmers in the 20 years I have been in this hobby and I have never heard such a quite skimmer and my EcoTech pump in my life. You can't even tell that they are running. The water that trickles down into my Overflow boxes is louder then both pumps running. HIGHLY recommend Skimz protein skimmers.. My opinion they are better then the Octopus and the Vortez since I have owned both of them in the past. Another + about Skimz you dont have to deal with the MFG, you deal directly with Bulk Reef Supply.. I had a small issues wit the pump and I had a brand new skimmer sent to me with in 5 days.

TANK INFO
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120 Mixed Reef
Ecotech M1 pump
Skimz 163 DC Montzer Series skimmer
Custom sump / Refuge
2 Maxspect Gyre XF130's Pumps
2 AI Hydra TwentySix HD LED Fixtures
Celestial C35W Maxspect Grow Spot light
Aqua UV Ultraviolet Sterilizer 25w
BRS Dual Media reactor
Eshoops IV Master doser
Tunze 3155 Auto Top Off
Is Bulkreefsupply handling all skimz warranties? Or do you have to order from them? BRS is a great company.

[jackstir34]

Okay, I know it's probably been asked, a few times, but I don't have time to sift through and find the exact Q&A. 210 gallon mixed reef. With 50 gallon fuge. What size skimmer? I'm partial to reef Octopus but foot print and height are a concern. Money is not much of an option, but if we can get quality at good price then, of course!

[JDuong916]

I built a protein skimmer for my 120 (+ 30 gallon sump). I made it a few years ago based on the SRO 5000 body size area, just square instead of round. I've always felt like the skimmer was way too large for my tank. My bubble blaster 5000 finally went out today and I'm wondering if I should buy another bubble blaster 5000, or should i down size to a bb 3000 and make a new body. I know this has been asked before, but does it hurt to have a skimmer this oversized? I'd rather just buy another bb5000, but if i can get better performance with a BB3000 I'd make the switch.

[75mixedreef]

What are the best/most reliable skimmers in the $200 price range for a 75 gallon tank with a 40b sump? The top 2 I have found so far are the BM Curve 5 and the RO Classic 110INT. Size, price and water level is fine on both. Performance and reliability are the deciding factors. I care more about reliability. I'm not partial to these two, just the ones that I have noticed in my price range so far.

[msayani2]

I have had a JNS Sk2 skimmer on my 135g DT (w/35g sump) for 4 years. the pump is now gone and I found out that it would cost $180-200 to replace.

Can I use a different make of pump with this skimmer?

Can I make a pump stand from acrylic and use an aquatrance 2000s skimmer pump with it? BTW is this pump brand from Reef octopus reliable?

Also,has anyone done something like this before? Do I need to just balance the air input into the skimmer to match the old pump?:uhoh3:

[jason2459]

What is wrong with the pump? Sometimes an over night soak in a water/vinegar solution will get a pump working like new again.

[msayani2]

Pump has short circuited.

I live in dubai and thus had to hav ehte pump connected to a transformer. When I came back from my vacation, i found the that the pump was not working.. when I switched on the pump, the pump didnt move any water or air and the transformer made a big sound and both ends of the transformer became black and also black smoke and burning smell came from it.

I changed the transformer and that too blew :eek1:. Same problem and symptoms - I called an electrician and he checked and found that the pump short circuited and thats why this is happening.

Tried to open the pump and found that the impeller is impossible to remove and completely stuck inside.

Thus, I'm looking for a new skimmer pump :facepalm:

[msayani2]

By transformer i mean, to convert 110V to my 220V line in the house.

[Jeremy B.]

The JNS SK line of skimmers used the Sicce PSK-600 and PSK-1000. I believe the SK-2 used the PSK-600 pump, and this would be the exact bolt up replacement for you. Price on that pump is approximately $115.

[shred5]

The JNS SK line of skimmers used the Sicce PSK-600 and PSK-1000. I believe the SK-2 used the PSK-600 pump, and this would be the exact bolt up replacement for you. Price on that pump is approximately $115.

This is what I was going to say too, I just did not know the exact model.. You could at least steal the block and would be the cheapest way to go.

Hey Jeremy how is it going?

[msayani2]

I will try to get the sicce psk600 pump here.

If i am unable to, would the aquatrance 2000S pump from reefoctopus work well??

Also how are the ROCK pumps from bubble magus? (SP-2000 maybe)?

[msayani2]

Looks like the SK600 is much more similar to the SHARK 2.0 pump. Even the slots on the body and shape of body is very similar. Thus, it will fit in the same pump stand that came with the skimmer originally.

Also, I will have to import the pumps to my city so the cost is approx +-10% of each other for the aquatrance and sicce.

So will sicce sk600 be ok for this skimmer? Just want a opinion prior to purchase.

[cwschoon]

I am setting up a 120 in a few weeks and I purchased this skimmer, on the advice of my LFS-a good one-but I have NO experience with Reef Octopus, let alone this model, which is I believe is very new.
Any opinions/advice is greatly appreciated!

[shred5]

Which model?
RO skimmers some perform very well while others can be touchy.
Overall they are a nice middle of the road skimmers.

[cwschoon]

Forgot to list the model!....PS-100INT

[shred5]

Never heard of it. I wonder if it is older?
I heard of the PS-1000
int stand for internal.

[cwschoon]

It's new!

[shred5]

It's new!

I meant a older model.. Lots of times with LFS inventory sits a long time.
Even if it is a older model there is no problems there either some of their older models are great skimmers.

Here is all the new ones:
http://www.coralvue.com/protein-skimmers
Unless you typed the wrong model #.
I cannot find any info on it new or older.

[cwschoon]

It's a new model and that's why I am a bit leery. It IS the RO-PS-1000INT and Coralvue is the distributor that sells to Aquarium Services in Toronto, where I bought it.

[shred5]

It's a new model and that's why I am a bit leery. It IS the RO-PS-1000INT and Coralvue is the distributor that sells to Aquarium Services in Toronto, where I bought it.

Ok 1000 you posted 100 earlier, that model I am familiar with.

That is not a bad skimmer at all only issue that might be a little small for a 120 gallon aquarium.

Bubble blaster pumps are great.

[cwschoon]

Thanks!

[cwschoon]

Sorry for one more question....the return looks like it may be low. Is raising this skimmer in the sump commonplace?

[shred5]

Sorry for one more question....the return looks like it may be low. Is raising this skimmer in the sump commonplace?

RO skimmers usually come with direction that tell you the sump height that is best.

[indyjaco]

Which 'value' skimmer for a 120G?

Looking at the Octopus 150 classic & 152 Classic. I've also looked at the Simplicity 240 DC, but I like a 2 year warranty on a pump.

[shred5]

Which 'value' skimmer for a 120G?

Looking at the Octopus 150 classic & 152 Classic. I've also looked at the Simplicity 240 DC, but I like a 2 year warranty on a pump.


I think they might all be a little too small to borderline with anything other than a light load unless you are running some other means of nutrient export.. Most skimmer are rated for way more than they can handle.

[roberthu526]

I cleaned my RO Classic 150INT last weekend and it has been unstable since then. I vinegar bathed the body and let the pump sit in it for a night then ran it in vinegar for half an hour and rinsed it with fresh water. But it has been either overflowing or not reaching to the neck at all since the cleaning. I have only had if for about 7 months.
I read on some forums saying it could be the air intake was blocked or has debris but I checked mine and it is fine. Am I going to go through another cycle or is my skimmer broken permanently? Any advice is appreciated.

[shred5]

I cleaned my RO Classic 150INT last weekend and it has been unstable since then. I vinegar bathed the body and let the pump sit in it for a night then ran it in vinegar for half an hour and rinsed it with fresh water. But it has been either overflowing or not reaching to the neck at all since the cleaning. I have only had if for about 7 months.
I read on some forums saying it could be the air intake was blocked or has debris but I checked mine and it is fine. Am I going to go through another cycle or is my skimmer broken permanently? Any advice is appreciated.


Sometimes when you completely clean a skimmer it may take a day or two to break in...

[dap33@aol.com]

I have a moderately stocked 180 and running a etss tower with a pump taking lots of juice to run it.

Looking to go to a more efficient system

Any thoughts?

[jason2459]

If you can get your hands on an EM300 by Aquamaxx it was my favorite needlewheel skimmer.

Otherwise how much space and budget do you have?

[dap33@aol.com]

Lots of space
Moderate money for quality

[jason2459]

Lots of space
Moderate money for quality
What pump is that etss using? Thought of just getting a more efficient pump? That's still a decent skimmer.

My favorite by far that I've used is the MTC MVX 36". I'm currently using a waveline dc12000 to drive it.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=24824901

[wrimda]

Hello All, we have a 220 gallon total volume DT. Have a chance to buy a used ATB 840 skimmer but it must be an older model ATB because it has a PSK 2500 pump. Is there a better pump that I can install, or stick with the original design?

[shred5]

Hello All, we have a 220 gallon total volume DT. Have a chance to buy a used ATB 840 skimmer but it must be an older model ATB because it has a PSK 2500 pump. Is there a better pump that I can install, or stick with the original design?

They now come with a AirStar 1200 DCT pump which is a dc Jebao pump..
They also can be bought with the Sicce Syncra pump but the two should be pretty equal in performance.
The DC pump will add a measure of control ability.

[wrimda]

They now come with a AirStar 1200 DCT pump which is a dc Jebao pump..
They also can be bought with the Sicce Syncra pump but the two should be pretty equal in performance.
The DC pump will add a measure of control ability.

I have both a PSK 2500, and a PSK1000 pump will they all fit? Also trying to use the pump with the least amount of wattage use which I guess would be the PSK2500 @ 33W.
Seeing how the Skimmer has a smaller neck, would one pump work better than the others?

Thank you
Mike

[PRDubois]

Hello All, we have a 220 gallon total volume DT. Have a chance to buy a used ATB 840 skimmer but it must be an older model ATB because it has a PSK 2500 pump. Is there a better pump that I can install, or stick with the original design?

The current pumps for that skimmer are:
AC = Sicce 1000
DC = Jeaod DCT 1200

ATB stocks both. Both perform well. DCT is a little quieter and has 10 speeds for fine tuning.

[PRDubois]

I have both a PSK 2500, and a PSK1000 pump will they all fit? Also trying to use the pump with the least amount of wattage use which I guess would be the PSK2500 @ 33W.
Seeing how the Skimmer has a smaller neck, would one pump work better than the others?

Thank you
Mike

Both will fit. 1000 may perform better.

[wrimda]

The current pumps for that skimmer are:
AC = Sicce 1000
DC = Jeaod DCT 1200

ATB stocks both. Both perform well. DCT is a little quieter and has 10 speeds for fine tuning.


Thank you, sounds like I have plenty of options

[shred5]

I have both a PSK 2500, and a PSK1000 pump will they all fit? Also trying to use the pump with the least amount of wattage use which I guess would be the PSK2500 @ 33W.
Seeing how the Skimmer has a smaller neck, would one pump work better than the others?

Thank you
Mike

At one time it came with the psk250 and I have seen it run with the psk1000.

Paul kind of said that above too..

Great skimmer with any of those pumps. Can not do much better performance wise at that size and for the price that skimmer sells at.

[125mph]

What happens when you have an under-sized skimmer? Does that mean you will have a collection cup full of skim all the time, or does that mean it won't skim at all?

[shred5]

What happens when you have an under-sized skimmer? Does that mean you will have a collection cup full of skim all the time, or does that mean it won't skim at all?

A oversized skimmer is easier to notice because they usually just shut down for a while or are inconsistent.

Undersized it is harder to tell.. But yea the skimmer will usually keep producing skimmate but less than a properly sized skimmer but a properly sized skimmer will keep producing skimmate too..
The difference is usually your nutrients will rise with undersized and you will start to see slime algae like cyano first. . This not only happens with undersized skimmer or skimmers hooked up wrong or junk skimmers. Junk skimmers usually do not produce much...

A skimmer can only do so much too... Sometimes people just way overfeed or overstock or you need some additional filtration.

[PRDubois]

A oversized skimmer is easier to notice because they usually just shut down for a while or are inconsistent.

Undersized it is harder to tell.. But yea the skimmer will usually keep producing skimmate but less than a properly sized skimmer but a properly sized skimmer will keep producing skimmate too..
The difference is usually your nutrients will rise with undersized and you will start to see slime algae like cyano first. . This not only happens with undersized skimmer or skimmers hooked up wrong or junk skimmers. Junk skimmers usually do not produce much...

A skimmer can only do so much too... Sometimes people just way overfeed or overstock or you need some additional filtration.

+1 - What he said

[OldNemo]

Need some one to point me in the right direction. I am upgrading to 93 cube that will be sps/lps and heavily stocked with fish. My skimmer compartment is 12"x13" with 7" to 9" of adjustments.

Thoughts on a good skimmer between $300-400 retail?

I was thinking Nyos 120 but may be too small. I am now leaning toward the RLSS R6i from what I have been reading.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

[rtparty]

Need some one to point me in the right direction. I am upgrading to 93 cube that will be sps/lps and heavily stocked with fish. My skimmer compartment is 12"x13" with 7" to 9" of adjustments.

Thoughts on a good skimmer between $300-400 retail?

I was thinking Nyos 120 but may be too small. I am now leaning toward the RLSS R6i from what I have been reading.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks!
Reef Dynamics INS135 from Aquarium Source

[OldNemo]

Reef Dynamics INS135 from Aquarium Source

Thanks. Great price and I know the reputation but concerns me they are no longer around. I assume I could replace the pump if need be?

[rtparty]

Thanks. Great price and I know the reputation but concerns me they are no longer around. I assume I could replace the pump if need be?
Yep. Aquarium Source has all the parts. It's a common Sicce pump

[OldNemo]

Yep. Aquarium Source has all the parts. It's a common Sicce pump

Great. Thanks. Love the Sicce pumps. Quiet! I assume the skimmer is relatively quiet then.

[rtparty]

Great. Thanks. Love the Sicce pumps. Quiet! I assume the skimmer is relatively quiet then.
I would say mine is quiet but not silent. Putting a silicone mat under it really helped with the vibration noise. The air intake may be the loudest part.

Make sure you have the vertical clearance. They are tall skimmers!

[brownsps]

Need some one to point me in the right direction. I am upgrading to 93 cube that will be sps/lps and heavily stocked with fish. My skimmer compartment is 12"x13" with 7" to 9" of adjustments.

Thoughts on a good skimmer between $300-400 retail?

I was thinking Nyos 120 but may be too small. I am now leaning toward the RLSS R6i from what I have been reading.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

Why spend that much when you can use a reefbreeders D700 skimmer that would work great for that size tank.

[shred5]

Need some one to point me in the right direction. I am upgrading to 93 cube that will be sps/lps and heavily stocked with fish. My skimmer compartment is 12"x13" with 7" to 9" of adjustments.

Thoughts on a good skimmer between $300-400 retail?

I was thinking Nyos 120 but may be too small. I am now leaning toward the RLSS R6i from what I have been reading.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

sorry missed this..
Nyos 120 would be small, if you want that skimmer go bigger.

RLSS R6i would be perfect but it is hard to get now and I am not recommending the new ones because I have not tried them. I am guessing they are pretty good but even those are hard to get at the moment.

ATB 840 V2 is great skimmer for that size aquarium.

I also like the Deltec skimmers nice work horses and can be bought from Battle corals just ask Adam on the sizing. I would look towards the ones with Aquabee pumps.

I would like to try the new cone skimmers myself, I hear great things about them.

[PRDubois]

sorry missed this..
Nyos 120 would be small, if you want that skimmer go bigger.

RLSS R6i would be perfect but it is hard to get now and I am not recommending the new ones because I have not tried them. I am guessing they are pretty good but even those are hard to get at the moment.

ATB 840 V2 is great skimmer for that size aquarium.

I also like the Deltec skimmers nice work horses and can be bought from Battle corals just ask Adam on the sizing. I would look towards the ones with Aquabee pumps.

I would like to try the new cone skimmers myself, I hear great things about them.

ATB 840 V2 is great skimmer for that size aquarium.

[lionfish300]

Total water system is 400 gallons, heavy stock, sps dominate. Can you suggest a skimmer

[PRDubois]

Total water system is 400 gallons, heavy stock, sps dominate. Can you suggest a skimmer

ATB 1050a would work.
ATB 1260 if you want to over-skim or upgrade later like plumb in a frag tank.

[ksed]

Deltec has a cone skimmer?

sorry missed this..
Nyos 120 would be small, if you want that skimmer go bigger.

RLSS R6i would be perfect but it is hard to get now and I am not recommending the new ones because I have not tried them. I am guessing they are pretty good but even those are hard to get at the moment.

ATB 840 V2 is great skimmer for that size aquarium.

I also like the Deltec skimmers nice work horses and can be bought from Battle corals just ask Adam on the sizing. I would look towards the ones with Aquabee pumps.

I would like to try the new cone skimmers myself, I hear great things about them.

[PRDubois]

Deltec has a cone skimmer?

No they do not.

[elio]

Hey Guys,

Hope all is well with everyone. I've gone through this thread and I just can't find what I'm looking for. Which is why I'm forced to ask this question, I apologize in advance if it's repetitive.

I'm in need of some advise. I have a 160g display tank with a 60g sump. I currently have a G3 running right now.

I just setup this tank about 8 months ago. I've been slowing stocking it up. I currently have 6 fishes and about 24 corals (frags and colonies). I will be getting more livestock as days go by. I'm starting to think that I now need to upgrade my skimmer since it's old and since my load is getting bigger.

I have a lot of room in my sump (Height & Width). My stand is 44" tall and 46" wide and 40" deep.

Is there anything I can do to the G3? Upgrade the pump or tweak it?

or What would be a good skimmer that's on a budget of $200?

Been out for while and barely coming back into the hobby again. I appreciate any feedback.

[jason2459]

For a $200 budget I'd keep the G3. It's a fine skimmer. A good classic that can still perform. It's about the right size for that tank too. Soak the pump in some vinegar for a few hours and could help clean it up.

[jason2459]

Fyi I've seen some people replace the sedra with sicce and tunze pumps before too.

Like for the G3 I think it was this tunze
http://www.aquacave.com/tunze-hydrofoamer-9410-silence-pump.html

Have to search to see.

[elio]

For a $200 budget I'd keep the G3. It's a fine skimmer. A good classic that can still perform. It's about the right size for that tank too. Soak the pump in some vinegar for a few hours and could help clean it up.


Think so? Okay, I'll try out the vinegar method. Lets see what the outcome is. Thanks again! :wave:


Fyi I've seen some people replace the sedra with sicce and tunze pumps before too.

Like for the G3 I think it was this tunze
http://www.aquacave.com/tunze-hydrofoamer-9410-silence-pump.html

Have to search to see.

Do you think that by replacing the pump with a sicce or a tunze it will improve the performance? or should I just try to stick with OEM?

Thank you again! :D

[shred5]

Deltec has a cone skimmer?

No.

And that should read Cove skimmers. They are made by Aquabee and I believe Coralvue is importing them.

Still do not know how you got Deltec though..I do wonder how that may affect Deltec.


The other skimmer I want to try that looks promising is Ultra Reef Protein skimmers.

[shred5]

For a $200 budget I'd keep the G3. It's a fine skimmer. A good classic that can still perform. It's about the right size for that tank too. Soak the pump in some vinegar for a few hours and could help clean it up.

Agreed.
you are not going to find a skimmer for 160 gallon under 200.00.

[shred5]

Total water system is 400 gallons, heavy stock, sps dominate. Can you suggest a skimmer



ATB 1050a would work

Also might look at the Reef Octopus Regal 250INT Protein Skimmer or possible the 300.
I have been hearing allot of good thing about those skimmers and seen a few in action.

If you have a large investment in the tank and have the mnoney I might look to Bubble King or Deltec for pump reliability. Im still not 100 percent sold on DC pumps even though they have came a long way. They are out performing ac pumps for sure but reliability still scares me.

[kissman]

Love my Skimz


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[new2u]

Hopefully people are still checking this thread.

I am looking at upgrading into one of the new red sea 750 reefer xxls and trying to figure out what skimmer to use.

The tank itself is roughly 200 gallons (160 display, 40 in the sump not counting displacement) and the sump has a pretty nice sized skimmer compartment that is
28″X20". There is a movable baffle to partition some of this sump area into a refugium. I can't find the exact specs on the positions for the baffel, but the larger refugium option looks like it takes up about half the space, so I am looking at a 28 x 10 avaliable footprint

http://i.imgur.com/cI7Yx6d.jpg

(I hope red sea doesn't mind me using their picture).

I am totally out of the skimmer game and don't know what is currently a good value option. From my cursory browsing I was looking at a bubble magnus curve 7, but it does look like its an older model.

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!

Willis

[shred5]

Hopefully people are still checking this thread.

I am looking at upgrading into one of the new red sea 750 reefer xxls and trying to figure out what skimmer to use.

The tank itself is roughly 200 gallons (160 display, 40 in the sump not counting displacement) and the sump has a pretty nice sized skimmer compartment that is
28″X20". There is a movable baffle to partition some of this sump area into a refugium. I can't find the exact specs on the positions for the baffel, but the larger refugium option looks like it takes up about half the space, so I am looking at a 28 x 10 avaliable footprint

http://i.imgur.com/cI7Yx6d.jpg

(I hope red sea doesn't mind me using their picture).

I am totally out of the skimmer game and don't know what is currently a good value option. From my cursory browsing I was looking at a bubble magnus curve 7, but it does look like its an older model.

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!

Willis



For ATB it might be out of the reach of the 840 v2 and be looking at 1050a but Paul will probably drop in her to help size with ATB.



Another skimmer I may start recommending is Ultra Reef Akula skimmers and for yours it would be the UKS-200. JBNY has been having success on his 270 with it. May want to talk to him and see what he says. I am trying it's little brother right now and they are so well built. I have not had enough time to highly recommend it yet but so far it has been been pretty good.


You could contact Adam at Battle corals to discuss a properly sized Deltec skimmer. Get one with aquabee pumps.


If you have the money you can not go wrong with Bubble King they have the best pumps.. Talk to Slief in the Bubble King forum for proper sizing.



There are a few lower priced skimmers that do pretty well that have Sicce pumps like aquamaxx, new Eshopps skimmers are looking real nice.


Might even look at the Reef octopus regal 200 int but it might be a little tight and you may need to look at the 250INT instead. RO have been hit or miss for me and a few others of late but the Regal series seems to perform well for a lot of people.


We can help point you buy ultimately it is up to you and a little research can go a long way.

[new2u]

For ATB it might be out of the reach of the 840 v2 and be looking at 1050a but Paul will probably drop in her to help size with ATB.



Another skimmer I may start recommending is Ultra Reef Akula skimmers and for yours it would be the UKS-200. JBNY has been having success on his 270 with it. May want to talk to him and see what he says. I am trying it's little brother right now and they are so well built. I have not had enough time to highly recommend it yet but so far it has been been pretty good.


You could contact Adam at Battle corals to discuss a properly sized Deltec skimmer. Get one with aquabee pumps.


If you have the money you can not go wrong with Bubble King they have the best pumps.. Talk to Slief in the Bubble King forum for proper sizing.



There are a few lower priced skimmers that do pretty well that have Sicce pumps like aquamaxx, new Eshopps skimmers are looking real nice.


Might even look at the Reef octopus regal 200 int but it might be a little tight and you may need to look at the 250INT instead. RO have been hit or miss for me and a few others of late but the Regal series seems to perform well for a lot of people.


We can help point you buy ultimately it is up to you and a little research can go a long way.

Thank you for all the suggestions.

Do you think an aquamaxx Q2 would be sufficient with a medium to light bioload? A 300 dollar price point vs 500 or 600 for comparable performance may be worth it.

[PRDubois]

Hopefully people are still checking this thread.

I am looking at upgrading into one of the new red sea 750 reefer xxls and trying to figure out what skimmer to use.

The tank itself is roughly 200 gallons (160 display, 40 in the sump not counting displacement) and the sump has a pretty nice sized skimmer compartment that is
28″X20". There is a movable baffle to partition some of this sump area into a refugium. I can't find the exact specs on the positions for the baffel, but the larger refugium option looks like it takes up about half the space, so I am looking at a 28 x 10 avaliable footprint

http://i.imgur.com/cI7Yx6d.jpg

(I hope red sea doesn't mind me using their picture).

I am totally out of the skimmer game and don't know what is currently a good value option. From my cursory browsing I was looking at a bubble magnus curve 7, but it does look like its an older model.

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!

Willis

ATB 1050a would be a good fit!
:D

[shred5]

Thank you for all the suggestions.

Do you think an aquamaxx Q2 would be sufficient with a medium to light bioload? A 300 dollar price point vs 500 or 600 for comparable performance may be worth it.

The Aquamaxx skimmers are not very well made.
I like the CO-1 because it skims like crazy. People were excited about the Q-series because it was based on the CO-1 which allot of people loved. It launched and allot of people had issues with the Q-series and it seemed to die down and I have heard very little about it since. Hopefully they fixed the issues.

The CO-1 is a cheap little skimmer but it performed very well.. I am thinking the difference is because of the cup being angled at the top with a slot for the skimmate to exit. The angle on the neck forces the skimmate together concentrating it and then out.. Same principle why I think a properly designed cone skimmer out skimms a cylinder body skimmer. Most skimmers have a cylinder type neck that forces the skimmate up but allot of it just falls right back down while some falls out the sides of the neck. I think it could be less inefficient but is the method most skimmers use.

That said Aquamaxx use sicce pumps which are reliable and perform well but a Q2 only has a 6 inch body I cant find the air pulled but I am guessing right around 600 l/ph and moving the pump inside reduces contact time. A CO-2 would be better but I am going to say you need a CO-3 or a Q3 with the CO-3 being better of the two. Space saver skimmer are less efficient.

[new2u]

I don't like hearing aquamax isn't that well made, I ran into lots of issues with my existing skimmer (MRC) due to quality and getting replacement parts later in its lifespan.

After looking into eshopps I am liking their Axium line. They appear to have good construction/reviews and a small footprint (really like the pump inside the skimmer). The 220 looks like a good compromise (slightly oversized to the tank, but a midline model so the price isn't too bad). The 160 would technically work from their listed specs but only if i stay in the medium bioload... and i know we always like to oversize skimmers.

[shred5]

I don't like hearing aquamax isn't that well made, I ran into lots of issues with my existing skimmer (MRC) due to quality and getting replacement parts later in its lifespan.

After looking into eshopps I am liking their Axium line. They appear to have good construction/reviews and a small footprint (really like the pump inside the skimmer). The 220 looks like a good compromise (slightly oversized to the tank, but a midline model so the price isn't too bad). The 160 would technically work from their listed specs but only if i stay in the medium bioload... and i know we always like to oversize skimmers.

Aquamaxx uses good pumps. In this hobby you get what you pay for. They perform ok.


Reviews are so subjective especially on retail websites because most are done within a few days of buying and some with 5 stars end up being returned. The other issue is allot of people hate to admit they bought something wrong or somehow need to defend their purchase. Defending your purchase is huge it is almost as bad as fanboys.

The other issue is allot of people do not know what a good skimmer is because they never owned a good one or have only had one or two skimmers . Most people do not last 5 years in the hobby.

Example:
I was setting up a bunch of breeder tanks and did not need anything special or expensive.
I found a thread many years ago that raved on this little skimmer and it was cheap so I decided to try it. I should have known better being in the hobby as long as I have. I knew the pump was not great but it was going on fish only tanks. OMG it was garbage, all these people raving about it and in every skimmer thread suggesting it. I ended up replacing it with a Aquamaxx CO-1 and it pulled more in a day than the other did in a month.


The real problem is with most cheaper skimmers is they are not balanced. People scoff at the price of Bubble king, but their skimmers are balanced and actually handle what they are rated for. Cheap skimmers one model may perform great and the very next model overflows and is garbage. That is because they do not spend the time balancing a skimmer and making the skimmer work with a pump. What they do is ok 6 inch body get this pump and it works fine so the next size body gets the next size pump but that does not always work. Vertex is a company like that. The skimmers are very well built, matter of fact up with the best but some models work well while other like the 130 are almost impossible to set. The 130 has a pump way to powerful for the body.

As far as skimmer ratings they are usually 50 percent to double what they actually can handle.. This is especially true of SS skimmers (skimmers with pumps in the body) they are just less efficient. It is not over sizing the skimmer it is just what they figure as light, medium and heavy is not reality with what people actually do.

As far as the x160 working working, no. Another 6 " body and it uses the same pump I use on my 65 gallon reef skimmer, way to small. Unless the skimmer is exceptionally tall a 6" body would do no more than a 120 gallon. X220 looks about right. I was talking about the S-series though but not a lot of info on them yet but they looking promising.. Cone design, pipe-less, sicce, pump, etc. But honestly I have never heard anything bad about Eshopps skimmers but I have not seen allot in action either.

[new2u]

Aquamaxx uses good pumps. In this hobby you get what you pay for. They perform ok.


Reviews are so subjective especially on retail websites because most are done within a few days of buying and some with 5 stars end up being returned. The other issue is allot of people hate to admit they bought something wrong or somehow need to defend their purchase. Defending your purchase is huge it is almost as bad as fanboys.

The other issue is allot of people do not know what a good skimmer is because they never owned a good one or have only had one or two skimmers . Most people do not last 5 years in the hobby.

Example:
I was setting up a bunch of breeder tanks and did not need anything special or expensive.
I found a thread many years ago that raved on this little skimmer and it was cheap so I decided to try it. I should have known better being in the hobby as long as I have. I knew the pump was not great but it was going on fish only tanks. OMG it was garbage, all these people raving about it and in every skimmer thread suggesting it. I ended up replacing it with a Aquamaxx CO-1 and it pulled more in a day than the other did in a month.


The real problem is with most cheaper skimmers is they are not balanced. People scoff at the price of Bubble king, but their skimmers are balanced and actually handle what they are rated for. Cheap skimmers one model may perform great and the very next model overflows and is garbage. That is because they do not spend the time balancing a skimmer and making the skimmer work with a pump. What they do is ok 6 inch body get this pump and it works fine so the next size body gets the next size pump but that does not always work. Vertex is a company like that. The skimmers are very well built, matter of fact up with the best but some models work well while other like the 130 are almost impossible to set. The 130 has a pump way to powerful for the body.

As far as skimmer ratings they are usually 50 percent to double what they actually can handle.. This is especially true of SS skimmers (skimmers with pumps in the body) they are just less efficient. It is not over sizing the skimmer it is just what they figure as light, medium and heavy is not reality with what people actually do.

As far as the x160 working working, no. Another 6 " body and it uses the same pump I use on my 65 gallon reef skimmer, way to small. Unless the skimmer is exceptionally tall a 6" body would do no more than a 120 gallon. X220 looks about right. I was talking about the S-series though but not a lot of info on them yet but they looking promising.. Cone design, pipe-less, sicce, pump, etc. But honestly I have never heard anything bad about Eshopps skimmers but I have not seen allot in action either.

The deeper I research the more I agree with what you are saying. The reviews on the eshopps I was looking at where from another thread on RC where the initial reviews were good, but the jury is still out on the new stuff.

I don't like how the Axium doesn't have a bubble plate and I have been looking into the new S line, but I think I would end up needing a S-200 at minimum, and possibly an S-300.

If i'm going to need to size up that large and spend around 400ish anyways I'm thinking I may as well go big or go home with a deltec. I'm looking at the SC1455 and it seems like it would be a good fit. I just can't tell if it has an aquabee pump, I will reach out to adam at battlecorals and get his opinion.

[shred5]

The deeper I research the more I agree with what you are saying. The reviews on the eshopps I was looking at where from another thread on RC where the initial reviews were good, but the jury is still out on the new stuff.

I don't like how the Axium doesn't have a bubble plate and I have been looking into the new S line, but I think I would end up needing a S-200 at minimum, and possibly an S-300.

If i'm going to need to size up that large and spend around 400ish anyways I'm thinking I may as well go big or go home with a deltec. I'm looking at the SC1455 and it seems like it would be a good fit. I just can't tell if it has an aquabee pump, I will reach out to adam at battlecorals and get his opinion.


It is a aquabee pump, the other pump they use is DC and are Jabeo pumps, same as ATB. .. As far as sizing Adam will help you. He is a honest guy and far better at picking the right size. I have used Deltec and they are work horses and the Aquabee is one of my favorite pumps.. Aquabee is coming out with their own line of skimmers called Cove. I really want to try this skimmer and do a review on it.

I think you will be happier with a proven skimmer in the long run. The bigger the tank the bigger the risk. I am not saying some of the cheaper skimmers do not work well either. Aquamaxx CO-1 is one of those skimmers that just amazes me, not built well but it sure skims well..
I also have a hard time recommending skimmers I have not used, seen in action or know from a reliable source are good.

[JDuong916]

I have a 120 gallon SPS tank with 40 gallon breeder sump, about 150 gallons total. My current skimmer is way too oversized (10" body) and I can never get consistent results. I'm debating between a JNS/Aquamaxx Q-2 or Q-3 (90% for the Q-3). Do you guys have any suggestions between the two? I like to carbon dose, feed heavy and have about 8 medium (2"-4") fish.

[jason2459]

I have a 120 gallon SPS tank with 40 gallon breeder sump, about 150 gallons total. My current skimmer is way too oversized (10" body) and I can never get consistent results. I'm debating between a JNS/Aquamaxx Q-2 or Q-3 (90% for the Q-3). Do you guys have any suggestions between the two? I like to carbon dose, feed heavy and have about 8 medium (2"-4") fish.


Between those two I personally would go with the Q2 for that tank.

[JDuong916]

Even with heavy feeding and carbon dosing?

[jason2459]

Even with heavy feeding and carbon dosing?
Yes. I would and did do an 8" body on a heavily stocked and heavily fed carbon dosed 180. On a 120 I would do a 6" body.

[JDuong916]

Well I think I have my answer. Thanks for the advice!

[strikeratt]

I have a 60g cube with a 20g sump. Currently have an SCA 301, but the impeller in the pump needs to be replaced.

Instead of replacing the impeller every 6 months, any suggestions on a new skimmer all together?

Looking to stay under $200, but might go a bit higher if it's close.

[shred5]

I have a 60g cube with a 20g sump. Currently have an SCA 301, but the impeller in the pump needs to be replaced.

Instead of replacing the impeller every 6 months, any suggestions on a new skimmer all together?

Looking to stay under $200, but might go a bit higher if it's close.

The cheapest best skimmer is a AquaMaxx ConeS CO-1 for smaller tanks.. anything under 200 is going to be garbage. They are cheaply made but they skim like crazy for their size and a very reliable pump.

[ksed]

Look at the Vertex Somatic. BRS has them and they uses Sicce pump.

[Bodai]

Hello,

I just joined this forum, I posted my new setup so far in the "new to the hobby" forum, but I think it is waiting for moderator approval. I have a 135G tank that will be fish only + live rock, I would like to go on the more heavily stocked side of things.

Here is what I am looking for:
- Needs to fit in the stand: which has a space that is either 16" x 10" or 15" x 11.5", and an absolute height of 29" including space you would need for servicing the cup and such. Thinking this will be enough and won't need to go behind the tank or something.
- Prefer something external that goes under the stand, but not in the sump
- Noise: this is a living room tank, so I do need to control noise levels
- Maintenance: definitely want one of the "set and forget" models that don't need constant adjustment
- Budget: within "reason" I will pay whatever I have to, so I am looking for a good value. If I have to pay $2,000 to get the best one, so be it, as long as I get my money's worth.
- I may do a separate ozone reactor in the future

Here are the one's I am considering, I see that several of the "top" models appear to have their own threads, that is telling I think.

Life Reef, http://www.lifereef.com/venturi.html
- My sump is made by Life Reef and it is very well made
- If his claims are true seems like a good unit
- Price is reasonable, $500-$700 or so
- I could have him custom make one a little taller to take advantage of the extra 5" or so I have over 24" to get better contact time
- I have not read through enough of the thread yet to see if it meets my other needs
- I listed this first because I am leaning towards it if I don't find a compelling reason not to

Bubble King
- Looking at the Bubble King DeLuxe 200 external, maybe?
- I notice this also has a club on this forum
- Looks to be in the $1,600 range, so on the expensive side
- I don't know much about these, I see them mentioned favorably allot and about their high price, so I am wondering if this is the "Cadillac" I am looking for
- Seems like the difference is that these have pumps that are tailor made for skimmer use, maybe?

Reef Octopus
- The aquarium pro I work with in New Hampshire likes these
- I would be looking at one like the Super Reef Octopus SRO-2000EXT 6"
- Looks to be in the $500-$600 range

So, would like to hear which one's people think are best for my use case, and if there is a specific model you recommend, not sure if I am picking the right one's. I will probably call the company to ask once I decide on a brand.

Thank you very much

-Bodai

[shred5]

Hello,

I just joined this forum, I posted my new setup so far in the "new to the hobby" forum, but I think it is waiting for moderator approval. I have a 135G tank that will be fish only + live rock, I would like to go on the more heavily stocked side of things.

Here is what I am looking for:
- Needs to fit in the stand: which has a space that is either 16" x 10" or 15" x 11.5", and an absolute height of 29" including space you would need for servicing the cup and such. Thinking this will be enough and won't need to go behind the tank or something.
- Prefer something external that goes under the stand, but not in the sump
- Noise: this is a living room tank, so I do need to control noise levels
- Maintenance: definitely want one of the "set and forget" models that don't need constant adjustment
- Budget: within "reason" I will pay whatever I have to, so I am looking for a good value. If I have to pay $2,000 to get the best one, so be it, as long as I get my money's worth.
- I may do a separate ozone reactor in the future

Here are the one's I am considering, I see that several of the "top" models appear to have their own threads, that is telling I think.

Life Reef, http://www.lifereef.com/venturi.html
- My sump is made by Life Reef and it is very well made
- If his claims are true seems like a good unit
- Price is reasonable, $500-$700 or so
- I could have him custom make one a little taller to take advantage of the extra 5" or so I have over 24" to get better contact time
- I have not read through enough of the thread yet to see if it meets my other needs
- I listed this first because I am leaning towards it if I don't find a compelling reason not to

Bubble King
- Looking at the Bubble King DeLuxe 200 external, maybe?
- I notice this also has a club on this forum
- Looks to be in the $1,600 range, so on the expensive side
- I don't know much about these, I see them mentioned favorably allot and about their high price, so I am wondering if this is the "Cadillac" I am looking for
- Seems like the difference is that these have pumps that are tailor made for skimmer use, maybe?

Reef Octopus
- The aquarium pro I work with in New Hampshire likes these
- I would be looking at one like the Super Reef Octopus SRO-2000EXT 6"
- Looks to be in the $500-$600 range

So, would like to hear which one's people think are best for my use case, and if there is a specific model you recommend, not sure if I am picking the right one's. I will probably call the company to ask once I decide on a brand.

Thank you very much

-Bodai

Going outside a sump you need a skimmer that is really stable and balanced. Also make sure it is able to shut off if overflows like with a skimmate locker or at least float switches if the cups get full..

Well Bubble king is expensive but you wont be able to do much better for a skimmer. Go to the Bubble king forum and ask Slief for sizing..


As far as Lifereef, allot of people really like them. I had one and it did a pretty good job, Nothing like the Bubble kings, ATB or a few others. They require a pump that can handle a little back pressure since they use a venturi which is older technology, It makes them a little less energy efficient. They are very stable and the venturi on mine required allot of cleaning and was not easily removed. This may sound a little negative but it is not, they are decent skimmers, well balanced and that is what makes them great external. Only issue is you may have to go above 29" tall. I am not the best for sizing on this skimmer but as with most skimmer you probably should go with one rated double what you need.

RO has made some great skimmers for the price, some of the best deals in skimmers. My issue is they have had a few misses here and there and some of them are not balanced well and overflow. Running external it would scare me to try one unless you use a skimmate locker or float switches in the cup, I would do this anyway no matter what skimmer is used outside or in the sump. Most of my skimmers that have overflowed have done so through the cup overflowing.

[Thornbreaker]

If I have a sump where the water level is set and not adjustable, is there a common method to adjust the skimmer height?

Do y'all just set something underneath the skimmer to raise it an inch or 2 as needed?

Thank you

[shred5]

If I have a sump where the water level is set and not adjustable, is there a common method to adjust the skimmer height?

Do y'all just set something underneath the skimmer to raise it an inch or 2 as needed?

Thank you

Yes you can raise it by using a stand or putting egg crate etc under it for sumps with set water level.. If it is set less than the skimmer is made for your kind of screwed. Most of the time as long as it is close you are ok.

[Thornbreaker]

Yes you can raise it by using a stand or putting egg crate etc under it for sumps with set water level.. If it is set less than the skimmer is made for your kind of screwed. Most of the time as long as it is close you are ok.
Thanks. In other words if the sump is at 10" water height and the skimmer is rated for 7" to 9", I would need to raise it at least 1"?

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[shred5]

Thanks. In other words if the sump is at 10" water height and the skimmer is rated for 7" to 9", I would need to raise it at least 1"?

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Correct.

[Euler Kernighan]

Guys,

For a 220g gross system, 160g net. Bacterial driven system, let's say biopellets or zeovit/aquaforest related do you suggest ATB 840 v2 or 1050a?

I really like the ATB cone approach but am not that confident on the pump they use, do do you recommend any other skimmer pump? Btw, I've two ATB Flowstar 1500 on the shelf and will really enjoy mod them as skimmer pumps for one of these skimmer.

Am all ears to other suggestions (skimmer and pumps :lol2:)

[shred5]

I would suggest 1050a.

I would not use a 840 on anything over a 150 gallon unless really lightly loaded.

I believe you can still get most ATB skimmers with a paired Sicce pump. I would if I did it over again especially with the problems of leaching with all these Chinese parts.. Paul will probably chime in on alternate pump.

A skimmer I am really starting to like is the Ultra Reef Akula Protein skimmers. They use a Sicce dc pumps.
I have been using a ac model and it to me is the top or very close to the top. They are so well built and not over priced.
Hard to beat them.

JBNY is running the 200 (rated for 225) on a 270 gallon tank and it aint even rated that high and he says it has been great.

But Ultra Reef and ATB they are my favorite in performance with just a little nug to ATB.

Ultra reef is just so easy to use and so well built.

[Euler Kernighan]

Hey David, thanks for chiming in. Never heard about Ultra Reef Akula before but now i'm scratching my head on URA 200 vs ATB 1050a :debi:

Seems UniqueCorals are the only one carrying Ultra Reef skimmers, correct?

Another question, which DC pump model should be paired with URA 200? It comes with an AC Sicce PSK 1200.

PS: i have an aquac ev 180 (perfect conditions) and another KZ Revolution S (loud/noisy aquabee 2000 & 3000) but I don't know if they can handle this new setup. :hmm2:

[shred5]

Yea UniqueCorals unless you bring one in yourself.

They are Italian.

http://www.ultrareef.it/eng.ultrareef.it/

I thought they had the DC model in. I guess not.

They are so well built and easy to adjust, Even can adjust the air if need be.


AquaC was good in their day.. Still perform ok just inefficient.

KZ were great skimmers and still would be. I like Aquabee pumps, pretty reliable.
Aquabee has brought out their own skimmer line now called Cove, might be worth a try. Coralvue is bringing them in.

[Euler Kernighan]

So uniquecorals is the way to go. I'm gonna call them just to chat and tried to decide. May Paul chime in and provide some feedback on ATB 1050a pump alternatives.

[Euler Kernighan]

Fellows, do you have any contact from Paul@ATB other than ATB-USA@comcast.net?

[KJoFan]

Looking for input on the RO Regal 170Int. I know it's retired, this would be a used purchase if I went that route. Anyone have/have experience and feedback? Or just opinion of those in the know about skimmers welcome.

Second, is it suitable for a 66g (around 75g total system) sps dominant tank?

[KJoFan]

Looking for input on the RO Regal 170Int. I know it's retired, this would be a used purchase if I went that route. Anyone have/have experience and feedback? Or just opinion of those in the know about skimmers welcome.

Second, is it suitable for a 66g (around 75g total system) sps dominant tank?

No one has any input?

[James404]

Setting up my new 80g + 40g sump and considering the SRO Regal 200EXT, is this too oversized?

Going to be SPS dominant with a heavy bioload...

[shred5]

Setting up my new 80g + 40g sump and considering the SRO Regal 200EXT, is this too oversized?

Going to be SPS dominant with a heavy bioload...

Yea that is allot of air. Probably will put allot of gunk in the neck but not much in the cup or on and off unless you feed very heavy.

[shred5]

Fellows, do you have any contact from Paul@ATB other than ATB-USA@comcast.net?

Just message him here on RC.

[KJoFan]

Looking for input on the RO Regal 170Int. I know it's retired, this would be a used purchase if I went that route. Anyone have/have experience and feedback? Or just opinion of those in the know about skimmers welcome.

Second, is it suitable for a 66g (around 75g total system) sps dominant tank?

[Golden Age]

Does anyone know how to get the rubber seal back on the Eshopps skimmer? I can't find anything online and have tried everything. It seems like something so simple.

There's an elbow piece that goes inside and a rubber seal that goes on the outside that you put the pump into but unless your hands are small enough to enter the chamber, you can't get the part in with the seal.

Any suggestions?

http://www.eshopps.com/media/products/big/psk100.jpg

[cboberg]

Currently building a 120 gal tank with 28 gal sump. Will have a fairly heavy bio-load and be predominantly sps. Looking at several skimmers, please help me decide between the following : Deltec 1455, aquamaxx FC180, quantum 160 and ultra reef akula180... Don't want to spend more than $500... Anyone have any of these ?

[shred5]

Currently building a 120 gal tank with 28 gal sump. Will have a fairly heavy bio-load and be predominantly sps. Looking at several skimmers, please help me decide between the following : Deltec 1455, aquamaxx FC180, quantum 160 and ultra reef akula180... Don't want to spend more than $500... Anyone have any of these ?


Ultra reef 180 if you can get one then maybe quantum and Deltec.
The ultra reef is far higher quality then the rest especially aquamaxx.
I am Leary of Deltec right now. This is the second time they pulled the line from someone who made them popular in the states and went with Marine depot. We remember last time with Marine depot they stopped carrying the line after a while.

[cboberg]

Ultra reef 180 if you can get one then maybe quantum and Deltec.
The ultra reef is far higher quality then the rest especially aquamaxx.
I am Leary of Deltec right now. This is the second time they pulled the line from someone who made them popular in the states and went with Marine depot. We remember last time with Marine depot they stopped carrying the line after a while.

I agree with you about Deltec. Their customer service track record isn't too good. Anything I'm overlooking in this price range?

[shred5]

Looking for input on the RO Regal 170Int. I know it's retired, this would be a used purchase if I went that route. Anyone have/have experience and feedback? Or just opinion of those in the know about skimmers welcome.

Second, is it suitable for a 66g (around 75g total system) sps dominant tank?

It would be enough easily.. I have not personally tried this skimmer, I have had others.
My luck with RO is one skimmer is friggen awsum while the next is real touchy. For the most part they are good skimmers though
and in the past they have been a great cheap alternative to expensive skimmers while still being decent quality.

[inktomi]

Would anyone be able to give me a suggestion on an upgraded skimmer for my ~300g (total volume) tank? I have my current skimmer (Reef Octopus INT-200 "Elite") plumbed to the outside and I'm looking for something with a little more "power" so that the long airline doesn't bog it down. My tank is full of anthias, so there's a lot of food to get skimmed out.

I've been looking at the Deltec SC 2060, though after reading the last several pages of this thread I'm thinking about the Nyos Quantum 220. I like that the Nyos is listed as pulling in more air: 2,200 l/h vs the Deltec at 1,200 l/h. I have a budget around $1000 to work with for this upgrade. My current skimmer pulls ~1,200 l/h but this is somewhat reduced due to the line to outside.

Is Nyos a good brand? I like that Deltec has been around since I started reefing years and years ago. What do you all think?

[willper]

I am returning to the Aquarium Reef hobby after a long absence. I have a Red Sea XL425 controlled by Apex Fusion. A new aquisition is a Bubble Magus Curve 5 skimmer. The consensus is to plug it in and wait until it stops overflowing. The skimmer "muffler' keeps getting water in it causing an annoying "bubbling" sound. My question: is this normal and will it go away. I have sucked the water out of it and it keeps getting more. If i cover the hole on top, it stops.

Any help in this matter will be greatly appreciated

[kalan850]

Hello everyone!
Just put water in my 40 breeder today needless to say I'm STOKED!
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180215/e789a7573ff266a7a2f8a6c690ae11cd.jpg
Question though... I have a vertex somatic 60s that I installed today but this thing is kinda loud! And it's putting a crazy amount of micro bubbles out of the return. The tank is a 40 breeder with 20 long sump. I plan on keeping around 4 or 5 small fish and mostly lps and softies. I will be feeding once a day. NLS pellets one day and mysis the next so on and so forth. I plan on doing 25% wc once a week. Do I really need to run a skimmer with this bioload? Would it benefit me to keep it or is it a bit overkill?


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[shred5]

Hello everyone!
Just put water in my 40 breeder today needless to say I'm STOKED!
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180215/e789a7573ff266a7a2f8a6c690ae11cd.jpg
Question though... I have a vertex somatic 60s that I installed today but this thing is kinda loud! And it's putting a crazy amount of micro bubbles out of the return. The tank is a 40 breeder with 20 long sump. I plan on keeping around 4 or 5 small fish and mostly lps and softies. I will be feeding once a day. NLS pellets one day and mysis the next so on and so forth. I plan on doing 25% wc once a week. Do I really need to run a skimmer with this bioload? Would it benefit me to keep it or is it a bit overkill?


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Do not own that skimmer but a few things. The skimmer will take a few days to over a week to break in. I just rebooted my tank cleaned my skimmer well and it was not in use for a few weeks and when I put it back in service it put out micro bubbles for about a week.


Did you use epoxy or any putty.. That will make it way worse for a bit.

Make sure the water height is right and make sure the water level is close to the neck.

Nice rock work not too much rock and nice negative space. Makes the tank look bigger than it is.

[shred5]

I am returning to the Aquarium Reef hobby after a long absence. I have a Red Sea XL425 controlled by Apex Fusion. A new aquisition is a Bubble Magus Curve 5 skimmer. The consensus is to plug it in and wait until it stops overflowing. The skimmer "muffler' keeps getting water in it causing an annoying "bubbling" sound. My question: is this normal and will it go away. I have sucked the water out of it and it keeps getting more. If i cover the hole on top, it stops.

Any help in this matter will be greatly appreciated

Do not have a bubble Magnus but if it is getting water in it the water level might be to high. Also had a skimmer do this once and the silencer had a leak in it.

[shred5]

Would anyone be able to give me a suggestion on an upgraded skimmer for my ~300g (total volume) tank? I have my current skimmer (Reef Octopus INT-200 "Elite") plumbed to the outside and I'm looking for something with a little more "power" so that the long airline doesn't bog it down. My tank is full of anthias, so there's a lot of food to get skimmed out.

I've been looking at the Deltec SC 2060, though after reading the last several pages of this thread I'm thinking about the Nyos Quantum 220. I like that the Nyos is listed as pulling in more air: 2,200 l/h vs the Deltec at 1,200 l/h. I have a budget around $1000 to work with for this upgrade. My current skimmer pulls ~1,200 l/h but this is somewhat reduced due to the line to outside.

Is Nyos a good brand? I like that Deltec has been around since I started reefing years and years ago. What do you all think?

Deltec is a good skimmer but that model is a little small. only pulls 1200 l/h.

Nyos is a decent skimmer too but people have had a few issues.

Not just about air but design but it is a huge difference. your tank is large and you need to feed anthias often. Just remember anthias do not need allot of food they just need to be fed often, so there does not need to be allot of extra waste.


Might check out ATB 1050A they are super efficient.

[VoiceInTheDeser]

Hey everyone. I'm starting a 40g cube build and looking for the right skimmer. It's going to be home to a Dwarf Lion and possibly nothing else, fish wise. For corals, I wasn't planning much, maybe some mushrooms, maybe some LPS, but the tank is about the Lion and whatever can live with him.

Been looking into a couple skimmers. The sump I have is smallish, skimmer chamber about 7 inches wide and 11 inches long. As a result, the K2-50/120, Eshopps X-120, Skimz SN-123 and Simplicity 120 have been my main research candidates.

I know the Lion is gonna make a mess, but I don't want to oversize the skimmer and have it perform inconsistently. Thoughts on the models I've found? Something else entirely?

[VoiceInTheDeser]

Hello everyone!
Just put water in my 40 breeder today needless to say I'm STOKED!
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180215/e789a7573ff266a7a2f8a6c690ae11cd.jpg
Question though... I have a vertex somatic 60s that I installed today but this thing is kinda loud! And it's putting a crazy amount of micro bubbles out of the return. The tank is a 40 breeder with 20 long sump. I plan on keeping around 4 or 5 small fish and mostly lps and softies. I will be feeding once a day. NLS pellets one day and mysis the next so on and so forth. I plan on doing 25% wc once a week. Do I really need to run a skimmer with this bioload? Would it benefit me to keep it or is it a bit overkill?


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As others have said, the break-in is normal. A good skimmer will stop producing those bubbles and stop making as much noise somewhere between a few days and a week. Placement in the sump will also affect this. The bubbles going through a couple baffles will reduce them significantly.

As far as "is it worth it," I'd say yes. You'll get some people telling you that skimmers aren't necessary under a certain size tank, but I think most also get better growth and more stable tanks from using one. If anything, I would cut down a bit on the WC. Not because they're bad, but I just don't think it's necessary with your plans.

[kalan850]

As others have said, the break-in is normal. A good skimmer will stop producing those bubbles and stop making as much noise somewhere between a few days and a week. Placement in the sump will also affect this. The bubbles going through a couple baffles will reduce them significantly.



As far as "is it worth it," I'd say yes. You'll get some people telling you that skimmers aren't necessary under a certain size tank, but I think most also get better growth and more stable tanks from using one. If anything, I would cut down a bit on the WC. Not because they're bad, but I just don't think it's necessary with your plans.



I appreciate you sharing your wisdom [emoji106] the skimmer stays for now. I'm cycling the tank so running the skimmer during the cycle would be counterproductive considering it would pull the organic materials from the water column before the bacteria can colonies and consume them right?


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[kalan850]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180215/03e267737b7d6ded09c57f2147cdd3c0.jpg Water level is 10". for now I have the skimmer running without air going to it. Will this help the break in period or should I not run it at all until the system is fully cycled?


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[VoiceInTheDeser]

I appreciate you sharing your wisdom [emoji106] the skimmer stays for now. I'm cycling the tank so running the skimmer during the cycle would be counterproductive considering it would pull the organic materials from the water column before the bacteria can colonies and consume them right?


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Yeah, I wouldn't bother with the skimmer until it cycles. Someone smarter than me might chime in and correct me, but my understanding is that you'll be removing a lot of the stuff that's necessary for the cycle to actually occur. Once you have the cycle finished, you could fire it up, but it still won't catch much until there's an actual bioload in the tank.

[shred5]

Hey everyone. I'm starting a 40g cube build and looking for the right skimmer. It's going to be home to a Dwarf Lion and possibly nothing else, fish wise. For corals, I wasn't planning much, maybe some mushrooms, maybe some LPS, but the tank is about the Lion and whatever can live with him.

Been looking into a couple skimmers. The sump I have is smallish, skimmer chamber about 7 inches wide and 11 inches long. As a result, the K2-50/120, Eshopps X-120, Skimz SN-123 and Simplicity 120 have been my main research candidates.

I know the Lion is gonna make a mess, but I don't want to oversize the skimmer and have it perform inconsistently. Thoughts on the models I've found? Something else entirely?

Nothing better for small tanks Aquamaxx CO-1 if you can provide the correct water height.

[shred5]

I appreciate you sharing your wisdom [emoji106] the skimmer stays for now. I'm cycling the tank so running the skimmer during the cycle would be counterproductive considering it would pull the organic materials from the water column before the bacteria can colonies and consume them right?


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If you leave the cup off and let it overflows and does not remove anything. I rely mostly on skimming nowadays and bacteria will still colonize, , just need to start slow and not throw as much in. Plus if I have rock that needs to be cured the skimmer can help. Really depends on what you are doing.

Unless you use live rock there is not much of a ammonia cycle and personally you should cycle your rock in a different container.

[reeftivo]

Does anyone have experience with the Italian Ultra Reef Akula skimmers?

If so, what are your opinions on build and performance. Looks solid and a decent size chamber with the effluent going into the base, but that neck transition looks odd and abrupt.

thanks in advance

Tivo

[shred5]

Does anyone have experience with the Italian Ultra Reef Akula skimmers?

If so, what are your opinions on build and performance. Looks solid and a decent size chamber with the effluent going into the base, but that neck transition looks odd and abrupt.

thanks in advance

Tivo


Best skimmer I have owned and I have owned allot. Very high quality.. Everything comes apart for cleaning including the neck in the cup.

JB NY has one on a tank that is larger than what the skimmer is rated and it handles it fine. That is rare and BK skimmers are the only other skimmer that comes close to their rating.. BK still has a better pump but at a premium.
Highly recommended.

[reeftivo]

Thanks David. I was looking at the BK double cone 130 and wasn't overwhelmed by the reviews. The Akula is on my list now.
What does the neck transition at the collar look like? Short & Smooth like the BK mini. I'd imagine it has some sort off taper. Just curious

[shred5]

Thanks David. I was looking at the BK double cone 130 and wasn't overwhelmed by the reviews. The Akula is on my list now.
What does the neck transition at the collar look like? Short & Smooth like the BK mini. I'd imagine it has some sort off taper. Just curious

Never heard anything bad about the mini or Supermarin. I have heard the double cone can be a little touchy and a little harder to dial in.

[reeftivo]

Best skimmer I have owned and I have owned allot. Very high quality.. Everything comes apart for cleaning including the neck in the cup.

JB NY has one on a tank that is larger than what the skimmer is rated and it handles it fine. That is rare and BK skimmers are the only other skimmer that comes close to their rating.. BK still has a better pump but at a premium.
Highly recommended.
The search is on for the elusive akula. Two places I'vetried don't know when they'll get them again. Figures!:(

[shred5]

The search is on for the elusive akula. Two places I'vetried don't know when they'll get them again. Figures!:(

Where did you look? The only place I know is Unique Corals? They have the smaller sized one. They do not know when they will have more larger ones. There is a new dc one with the new Sicce dc pump.

I got mine on EBay.

If you find one let me know I need a larger one for another system,
.

Wonder if Ultrareef will sell direct.

[CuseReefer84]

I have a Question. I have a Eshopps PSK 150 protein skimmer and I'm getting about 3/4s cup of skim a day, but when I look up through the glass I can still see a film at the top. I thought maybe it was the flow, cuz neither the power head nor the returns water flow was breaking the surface so I positioned one of them to do so, that was about 12 hours ago and while it did improve a tad, there's still film. Plz any feed back would be appreciated. Oh and I have a 75g w/20g refugium.

[reeftivo]

i assume you have an overflow-correct?

you state you have power heads and return aimed upwards, but are they pushing the film away from the overflow towards the corners? Mine used to do that until i re-positioned my pumps a little. a Gyre pump would give you nice wide laminar flow across the surface

[reeftivo]

Where did you look? The only place I know is Unique Corals? They have the smaller sized one. They do not know when they will have more larger ones. There is a new dc one with the new Sicce dc pump.

I got mine on EBay.

If you find one let me know I need a larger one for another system,
.

Wonder if Ultrareef will sell direct.

Tried unique and Donna told me they dont.

also tried a shop in NY that had them listed on their website.

i just inquired and didn't try placing an order. Maybe that's the rub.

i saw that sicce DC skimmer from them on ************ (SICK)

[reeftivo]

typhoon looks insane

388673

[shred5]

Tried unique and Donna told me they dont.

also tried a shop in NY that had them listed on their website.

i just inquired and didn't try placing an order. Maybe that's the rub.

i saw that sicce DC skimmer from them on ************ (SICK)

I am going to contact them and see what it would take to bring one in direct. I have done other stuff several times. Maybe can get a few together? Heck maybe I will start a business importing them. LOL..

[reeftivo]

call it "Shred5 imports"

i sent a message directly to "ultrareef.it" but wont hold my breath. it was early this a.m. and they were probably already closed.

is it me or do those things go for much more across the pond? i've seen them on a couple UK sites over 500euro for the 160.

[shred5]

call it "Shred5 imports"

i sent a message directly to "ultrareef.it" but wont hold my breath. it was early this a.m. and they were probably already closed.

is it me or do those things go for much more across the pond? i've seen them on a couple UK sites over 500euro for the 160.

Have you heard anything? I hit them up on their Facebook page.

[reeftivo]

Have you heard anything? I hit them up on their Facebook page.

Hi David

yes! Davide from Ultra Reef contacted me the next day and said no problem to direct ship.

the skimmer is a great price at 286 eu but shipping a single unit is 120 eu to california-ouch.

still, if you tack on tax in the states + the 448 they are going for here, it is only a little more to order direct from italy. even better with multiple units.

long story short, i ordered one and it shipped today. Had a gift card left over from xmas that covered the shipping so i split the paypal payments and whalla! akula 160 on the way.

I hope it doesn't get trashed during shipping. I have had bad luck with the mail lately.

Tivo

[shred5]

Hi David

yes! Davide from Ultra Reef contacted me the next day and said no problem to direct ship.

the skimmer is a great price at 286 eu but shipping a single unit is 120 eu to california-ouch.

still, if you tack on tax in the states + the 448 they are going for here, it is only a little more to order direct from italy. even better with multiple units.

long story short, i ordered one and it shipped today. Had a gift card left over from xmas that covered the shipping so i split the paypal payments and whalla! akula 160 on the way.

I hope it doesn't get trashed during shipping. I have had bad luck with the mail lately.

Tivo

Cool that is what is I am running on my reefer 250. Great skimmer you are going to love it.. Every part comes apart. The neck comes out of the cup so the neck and cup is easy to clean instead of trying to get your hand in it.. Very well built. The gate valve allows for extremely fine tuning.
It is a sicce pump so parts should be easy if need be. That still is a good price for a skimmer of that quality. I just had a light fixture shipped from Germany and it was expensive but made it here in like 2 days. Let me know how it goes?

I need a much larger Skimmer, my new system is 120 gallon with 3 frag tanks and the possibility 3 more.

I do not get Unique Corals not pushing this skimmer it could be a hit.. I seriously thought about doing it myself. It fits that sweet spot in price but it is high quality. Better quality and close in performance to ATB but cheaper. Skimmer is maybe even better quality than BK except for pump but way cheaper.

[reeftivo]

Thanks David
I'm pretty excited.
My BK mini had that removable neck too. Super convinient when running a skim locker.
You should ask Davide to price out a typhoon 200 for you. I'll bet you'll be surprised at the quote. I got hold of him at info@ultrareef.it

I'll update when it arrives

Happy reefing

[shred5]

Thanks David
I'm pretty excited.
My BK mini had that removable neck too. Super convinient when running a skim locker.
You should ask Davide to price out a typhoon 200 for you. I'll bet you'll be surprised at the quote. I got hold of him at info@ultrareef.it

I'll update when it arrives

Happy reefing

I have a question if you ordered the Akula 160 why did you not buy from Unique corals?.. THat size is the only one they do have in stock..

I did contact Ultra reef about getting another skimmer. I am going to order one next month.. I have ordered too much already this month for my new build..

[reeftivo]

Hi David

They told me no, they don't have any.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018, 3:40 PM Donna Soskin - UC <donna@uniquecorals.com> wrote:
Steve

We are out of stock on that right now.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018, 3:43 PM Donna Soskin - UC <donna@uniquecorals.com> wrote:
Sorry Steve. I'm not in charge of the ordering and am uncertain when the next import is coming from Italy

[reeftivo]

What's done is done. Now there's a mail strike
in Italy. Told you I have been having bad luck with the mail. Ultrareef is holding off on shipping until resolved. Should be next week though.

[shred5]

Weird it still shows up on their site.. I thought you were ordering a model up.. The larger models are on not on their site. It is what it is..

A mail strike.. Arent they shipping it ups or fedex?

[reeftivo]

Weird it still shows up on their site.. I thought you were ordering a model up.. The larger models are on not on their site. It is what it is..

A mail strike.. Arent they shipping it ups or fedex?

It shows up on their site, but I've been stuck waiting for long periods before when merchants take payment but don't show out of stock. That's why I contacted them in advance. Not sure about the mail strike that ultra reef stated, just have to take their word for it. They had a big strike list year so not sure if this may be some residual fall out.

Fingers crossed it will ship this week.

[GoNoles]

Question on a Reef Octopus 110 classic. Just filled tank and sump, started it up and have perfect flow through sump. Put skimmer on stand to give it the 7" optimal water level, opened valve all the way open and within 10 seconds the collection fills up with foam/water. I know that all skimmers have "break in" period, but shouldn't overflow the cup with valve all the way open? Looking for any answers...

[reeftivo]

Question on a Reef Octopus 110 classic. Just filled tank and sump, started it up and have perfect flow through sump. Put skimmer on stand to give it the 7" optimal water level, opened valve all the way open and within 10 seconds the collection fills up with foam/water. I know that all skimmers have "break in" period, but shouldn't overflow the cup with valve all the way open? Looking for any answers...

Did it ever settle down?

[GoNoles]

Did it ever settle down?

No. I was reading on another thread that someone had same issue. I did start up with CaribSea Live sand and used the clarifier that was packed with it. I'm going to used some carbon and do a water change this weekend and see if it helps.
I'm also having some issues with my beananimal overflow and getting a bit of air through the open channel still so not sure if the skimmer is picking some of that as well...

[shred5]

Skimmer do over flow when new especially in a new tank. My guess is something is in your water though..

Add some polyfilter and some carbon.. You can run the skimmer with the cup off or if it is not real bad run the drain to a bucket and top off tank with new saltwater.

[GoNoles]

Skimmer do over flow when new especially in a new tank. My guess is something is in your water though..

Add some polyfilter and some carbon.. You can run the skimmer with the cup off or if it is not real bad run the drain to a bucket and top off tank with new saltwater.

Yeah, within 10 seconds there is so much suds that it is overflowing the cup! I took the collection cup off to run it for a while but it just covers my sump with suds and I was afraid of it starting to flow back up to the DT!

[GoNoles]

Sorry about the sideways pic

[reeftivo]

Sorry about the sideways pic

are you running fresh carbon either passively or in a reactor (reactors better, but both work)?

live sand isn't as live as they advertise. the bacterial die off always made my skimmers bug out for a while. yours is lasting longer than expected though so hang in there. Run the carbon and if you can, connect a hose to the drain on the cup and run with the cup attached. let the drain run into a jug or bowl and dump and replace. May need to mark the sump level with some tape or something so you can keep the level up as you replace whats skimmed out with the new water.

this takes a while but when i've done this, my skimmers have always settled down.

Is you system new?

[GoNoles]

are you running fresh carbon either passively or in a reactor (reactors better, but both work)?

live sand isn't as live as they advertise. the bacterial die off always made my skimmers bug out for a while. yours is lasting longer than expected though so hang in there. Run the carbon and if you can, connect a hose to the drain on the cup and run with the cup attached. let the drain run into a jug or bowl and dump and replace. May need to mark the sump level with some tape or something so you can keep the level up as you replace whats skimmed out with the new water.

this takes a while but when i've done this, my skimmers have always settled down.

Is you system new?

Totally new startup. New water, new skimmer, sand, etc. Waiting on Refugium Startup Pack from Algae Barn (they are a little backordered right now, apparently) to start the cycle. I have not, as yet, started running carbon so that is what I will try.
Thank you very much!

[reeftivo]

Cool. Enjoy the new set up. Always fun getting new gear and dialing things in.
Happy reefing

[reeftivo]

Akula 160 skimmer arrived last light. already wet and breaking in. Will do full review after it's had time to settle in. Nice skimmer. surprised at how heavy it is. i think the lid alone weighs at least a pound. super beefy & nice cnc work on pvc.

[shred5]

Very nice you got it. Might be a while before I order one. The weather has me so far behind on my new build and it is costing me allot more than i thought with 2 builds going on at the same time.

Told you it was well built. These things should be flying off the shelf. I always thought my RLSS was the best skimmer for the money but their is no doubt these are and they are far better built than RLSS skimmers. They are built like a high end skimmer, perform pretty close to the top skimmers if not better than some but priced like a middle of the road skimmer. They use a very reliable pump and parts are easy to get for it and low priced.

i usually buy different skimmers for each build so I can help people with their skimmers. But these skimmers are so good I see no reason to do a different skimmer unless someone offered me A BK cheap but that will not happen.
I think if they got a good us distributor they could change the market.

[reeftivo]

I like how the BB box is tapered inside and the lid has a dome taper as well. I could be wrong but i doubt this thing pulls 500 lph. I'll have to get a meter on it soon. I have it running at 8.6 inches (22cm) like they recommend and wow what a difference in performance from where i started at which was 7 inches. they weren't kidding with that depth recommendation. this morning it was starting up the neck with a nice dense, pillowy foam head (similar to my ATB nano one and the BK mini 160).

thanks for the recommendation. i think this may be a keeper ;-)

oh btw, build quality IS on par with bubble king with the exception of some polishing on the edges of the top of neck and the cnc'd BK logos.

[shred5]

Do you have a picture of your skimmer. Sounds like it might be different than mine.
I was looking online and they look different too..

[reeftivo]

it looks just like the pics of yours i've seen.

I didn't get pics yet because i was lazy and figured after it breaks in I will do a review and break it down temporarily for a light cleaning and pics.

the lid has a solid cnc'd taper in the lid where the foam pushes into and diverts downwards. Also, the bubble box on the pump has a rounded taper inside on the top portion.

another feature that i noticed is the venturi which is completely rounded out inside and the air injects directly into the flow entering. most other venturi's have the air injected between the outer edge and inner machined collar. not sure if your's is like that.

[reeftivo]

very PILLOWY foam head :-)

[reeftivo]

Do you have a picture of your skimmer. Sounds like it might be different than mine.
I was looking online and they look different too..

got busy here at work. now that i think of it, the pump is slightly different.
it has a frosted translucent volute (can see impeller) and a white volute cover plate with a white rear plate. not sure if your venturi and BB box is different since i couldn't see that in your pics. It's still a psk600 block though.

I'll get some pics up soon

[shred5]

got busy here at work. now that i think of it, the pump is slightly different.
it has a frosted translucent volute (can see impeller) and a white volute cover plate with a white rear plate. not sure if your venturi and BB box is different since i couldn't see that in your pics. It's still a psk600 block though.

I'll get some pics up soon


Yea I saw some newer picture and it looked different. It did not look like it had the knob or they changed it for the fine tune adjustment on the output but it may possible have been old pictures.

My question is it an improvement or did they cheapen it some?

[reeftivo]

as far as i can tell it is the same as yours except for the pump. same adjustment knob, same clear riser up to the knob. I'll get some pictures tonight. It's breaking in nicely and very quiet. Nothing cheap about this skimmer ;-).

[shred5]

as far as i can tell it is the same as yours except for the pump. same adjustment knob, same clear riser up to the knob. I'll get some pictures tonight. It's breaking in nicely and very quiet. Nothing cheap about this skimmer ;-).


Cool that is what I want to hear.

[reeftivo]

Akula pump.you can see the clear volute with white cover and the white back plate
389702

Fine tune gate valve knob
389703

[shred5]

Akula pump.you can see the clear volute with white cover and the white back plate
389702

Fine tune gate valve knob
389703


Thanks yea it does not look allot different .. The back of the pump is now white I see..
Let me know when you do the review...

[Jwey]

I have a SWC 300 skimmer and the pump failed so I put on a Jebao DC 12000 with a needle wheel.
My questions is since the original pump was sized for 1500 GPH what effect will putting 2x the water flow thru the skimmer?

The Jebao at setting 5 should have around 2700 GPH but this may be reduced because of the needle wheel?

Is it better to have slower flow so the bubbles have time to grab onto the bad and skim out?

What does having to much flow do to the performance of the skimmer?

[shred5]

I have a SWC 300 skimmer and the pump failed so I put on a Jebao DC 12000 with a needle wheel.
My questions is since the original pump was sized for 1500 GPH what effect will putting 2x the water flow thru the skimmer?

The Jebao at setting 5 should have around 2700 GPH but this may be reduced because of the needle wheel?

Is it better to have slower flow so the bubbles have time to grab onto the bad and skim out?

What does having to much flow do to the performance of the skimmer?

Well depends.. Too much flow and you could shoot water out the top if the exit can not handle it.. The biggest issue is you will probably load the sump with micro bubbles and have way to much turbulence in the skimmer body. I wouldn't do it.

[Jwey]

I am able to control the flow and keep it at the neck.
There is very little micro bubbles coming out of the skimmer into the sump.
The Jebao has been running for months but I am not getting a good dark skimate.

My question was related to the flow rate thru the skimmer and how it effects the capturing/skimming performance.

[shred5]

I am able to control the flow and keep it at the neck.
There is very little micro bubbles coming out of the skimmer into the sump.
The Jebao has been running for months but I am not getting a good dark skimate.

My question was related to the flow rate thru the skimmer and how it effects the capturing/skimming performance.


Air and water need to be balanced. With more flow you get more turbulence like I said which makes it harder to produce a stable head. Also you are loosing bubbles out the drain.. The other issue is you need the air to be about the same. If you are pushing less air the skimmate may not make it up the neck.. You need a pump that is close in gph and air lp/h as the original pump...

[ddrueckh]

I am looking for a skimmer for a new 225 gallon reef (total water volume 275). I do not need the most flashy or latest on the market. I want something proven and reliable. The stand will be 36" tall so something around 24" tall would be best. I could spend up to $800 on it, but a proven $400 skimmer would work for me. Please let me know if you need any other information. Thank you!

[scottwhitson]

I am looking for recommendations for a skimmer for a 120 with either a 40 breeder or a 75 for a frag tank attached to the system. Total water volume of around 250 gallons with sump etc.

[Jwey]

I may have to rethink this setup.
I have a 240 DT that flows to a 240 Frag then down to a 100 Gal sump. I figure around 450 total water volume. With only a handful of fish I think I am a low to med bioload. MY SWC 300 maybe a bit undersized and with possibly the wrong pump I might just look to a new skimmer all together. Air and water need to be balanced. With more flow you get more turbulence like I said which makes it harder to produce a stable head. Also you are loosing bubbles out the drain.. The other issue is you need the air to be about the same. If you are pushing less air the skimmate may not make it up the neck.. You need a pump that is close in gph and air lp/h as the original pump...

[shred5]

I am looking for recommendations for a skimmer for a 120 with either a 40 breeder or a 75 for a frag tank attached to the system. Total water volume of around 250 gallons with sump etc.

Honestly Coralvue has RLSS skimmer on e b a y that are on clearance. You can get a RLSS R8-i Protein for 290. It is a great skimmer especially for the price. You will not be able to get parts most likely because they are on clearance if something goes wrong and it would be perfect.

You want something a little better a ATB 840 v2.0 Protein Skimmer would be perfect.

I am in the same boat right now setting up a 120 with attached frag system.
I am still contemplating bringing in the Ultrareef skimmer when the time comes. it is hard to pass up that deal on the RLSS though. I have the 6 inch version and have had it for years. Now it is a backup skimmer, worked so good it was hard to sell...

I run a Ultrareef skimmer now and it is really good skimmer and such high quality on a smaller tank. This is the way I am leaning myself but the RLSS is a good skimmer too especially for the price.

Another skimmer is the Nyos that people are really loving.. i have not owned one so sizing is tough for me but most likely would be Quantum 160 depending on load. Maybe bigger if heavy load.

Allot really depends on what you want to spend. There are allot of lower priced skimmer with sicce pump that do ok now adays too. You just have to double the gallons they are rated for when picking one because they always say they can handle double what they can actually handle.

[shred5]

I may have to rethink this setup.
I have a 240 DT that flows to a 240 Frag then down to a 100 Gal sump. I figure around 450 total water volume. With only a handful of fish I think I am a low to med bioload. MY SWC 300 maybe a bit undersized and with possibly the wrong pump I might just look to a new skimmer all together.

See post above except bigger see post.:


RLSS R10-i and ATB 1050A should be ok maybe one size larger on the ATB.. I would email ATB to see what they suggest. Again RLSS is being clearanced on E B A Y so it is a risk if something happens but you cant beat the price for any skimmer.

also depends on what you want to spend?

Again the Nyos has been doing well for people but you might be looking at 220 or 300... Never owned one so sizing is a little tough and also it really depends on load not so much gallons of water. If your frag tanks have no fish in it there wont be much load added.

[shred5]

Akula pump.you can see the clear volute with white cover and the white back plate
389702

Fine tune gate valve knob
389703

How is the skimmer doing?

[reeftivo]

How is the skimmer doing?
doing well.

taking a little longer to break in because i have been fussing around with different plumbing and pumps, but so far so good.

pulls a lot of solids and quite a bit of sludge builds in the upper third of the neck (lots in cup too). dont want to skim wetter right now so will keep it there for now. i will definitely be getting a neck cleaner for this and this skimmer will pull even better . very steady air/water line and quiet. i have the skimmer in 8.6 inches of water and may run deeper since it is only pulling 480 to 500lph. i have to really close down the gate valve (2/3) to get the water line where i like. I may pull my larger NW from my psk600 on the RD skimmer i have and try it out just to see what it does. Not sure if the white NW is the same on mine as it is on yours. It appears smaller than the NW i have on my RD skimmers psk 600. hope the volute is deep enough to try the RD NW. we'll see

will be doing review in a few weeks

thanks for the recommendation. great skimmer and quite the space saver too.

[shred5]

doing well.

taking a little longer to break in because i have been fussing around with different plumbing and pumps, but so far so good.

pulls a lot of solids and quite a bit of sludge builds in the upper third of the neck (lots in cup too). dont want to skim wetter right now so will keep it there for now. i will definitely be getting a neck cleaner for this and this skimmer will pull even better . very steady air/water line and quiet. i have the skimmer in 8.6 inches of water and may run deeper since it is only pulling 480 to 500lph. i have to really close down the gate valve (2/3) to get the water line where i like. I may pull my larger NW from my psk600 on the RD skimmer i have and try it out just to see what it does. Not sure if the white NW is the same on mine as it is on yours. It appears smaller than the NW i have on my RD skimmers psk 600. hope the volute is deep enough to try the RD NW. we'll see

will be doing review in a few weeks

thanks for the recommendation. great skimmer and quite the space saver too.

Right now with this skimmer and some Matrix I can not keep my nutrients up... corals are very light. First time since beginning the hobby I had to test nitrate and phosphates because they are too low. I show nothing on both kits not even a tint.. Been dosing both nitrates and phosphates and they will not go up. Trying to add more fish.. Think I am going to pull the Matrix for bit, probably do not need it with this skimmer.

[reeftivo]

i pulled my matrix and now running lignite instead.

having the same issue. it skims very well. i stopped carbon dosing and now using chaeto rx. PO4 has dropped to 0 (hanna) and nitrate is 3ppm (2 week Wcs) . i dont run any extra PO4 media.

feeding 3 cubes a day and some large spectrum pellets. i want to run the skimmer a little dryer but need the neck cleaner for that or else i will get a lot of sludge in the neck.

super happy with the skimmer though. love the big cup!

[shred5]

i pulled my matrix and now running lignite instead.

having the same issue. it skims very well. i stopped carbon dosing and now using chaeto rx. PO4 has dropped to 0 (hanna) and nitrate is 3ppm (2 week Wcs) . i dont run any extra PO4 media.

feeding 3 cubes a day and some large spectrum pellets. i want to run the skimmer a little dryer but need the neck cleaner for that or else i will get a lot of sludge in the neck.

super happy with the skimmer though. love the big cup!

Lignite as in carbon?

Weird we are always on the same page as far as the hobby goes. Didn't you have a CO-1 too?

Still use one on my Caribbean small reef and it still pull better than any skimmer Ever.. I wish the larger ones were as good... Only draw back is being build cheap and way too small of a cup.

[reeftivo]

yep carbon! a little less aggressive

still have the CO-1. Was going to keep running it, but that small cup, height of sump to skimmer depth and space restrictions, wouldn't allow me to run a skim locker. That cup on the CO-1 is waay too small. not sure why they just don't keep the neck the same size and widen the OD of the cup at least 1/2 in.

[tiflyche]

I run my simmer fairly dry, just on the edge of what some might consider wet. I empty my collection cup and give the cup a quick rinse in the sink without scrubbing. should I be rinsing the cup clean of buildup at every empty (every 1-3 days) or just let it build up and make it a monthly husbandry thing. Are there any suggestions as to what "collects" better, rinsed or washed?

Essentially, what care should be taken to ensure I am not reintroducing or building up toxic sludge?

I have a Reef Octopus 1000 HOB (https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/reef-octopus-bh1000-hang-on-the-back-protein-skimmer-2.html)

[Wind]

Not sure where to post, but am in the market for a HOB Skimmer.

Have narrowed down to the Deltec MCE 600 or the Reef Octopus BH 2000.

Does anyone know of any newer HOB coming to the market?

Any retailers still carry the Deltec MCE 600 HOB?

Or any mods to the Reef Octopus 2000 to make it even stronger?

Wanted something fail safe, such as if the collection cup being ove filled when away from house for work.

Noise isn‘t too much of an issue, but I‘ve heard people say the Deltec was noisier. Thanks

[shred5]

Not sure where to post, but am in the market for a HOB Skimmer.

Have narrowed down to the Deltec MCE 600 or the Reef Octopus BH 2000.

Does anyone know of any newer HOB coming to the market?

Any retailers still carry the Deltec MCE 600 HOB?

Or any mods to the Reef Octopus 2000 to make it even stronger?

Wanted something fail safe, such as if the collection cup being ove filled when away from house for work.

Noise isn‘t too much of an issue, but I‘ve heard people say the Deltec was noisier. Thanks


I have owned the MCE600 and it skims awsum. It has a Aquabee pump which is a great pump...


Never owned that RO model but have had a few others and their skimmers usually are not too bad for the price.

[Wind]

I have owned the MCE600 and it skims awsum. It has a Aquabee pump which is a great pump...


Never owned that RO model but have had a few others and their skimmers usually are not too bad for the price.

Yes, I am also leaning on that. Umm,.can u tell me where you bought yours? Google hasn‘t yielded much results.

Also, how. is the maintenance and have you used the chamber with other medias? Thanks

[shred5]

Yes, I am also leaning on that. Umm,.can u tell me where you bought yours? Google hasn‘t yielded much results.

Also, how. is the maintenance and have you used the chamber with other medias? Thanks


It was a long time ago. I really do not remember.
That skimmer has been around a long time.

Best bet is to talk to Adam at Battle corals.
He is a old friend of mine and he sells Deltec. Tell him you talked to me.
He will tell you everything you need and help you out if you decide to go that way.
Matter of Fact Adam purchased that Deltec MCE 600 skimmer from me long before he went into business. Very honest good guy..
Looking at his site too they now sell a MCE 500.

https://battlecorals.com/collections/deltec

[Wind]

It was a long time ago. I really do not remember.
That skimmer has been around a long time.

Best bet is to talk to Adam at Battle corals.
He is a old friend of mine and he sells Deltec. Tell him you talked to me.
Matter of Fact Adam purchased that Deltec skimmer from me long before he went into business. Very honest good guy..

https://battlecorals.com/collections/deltec
Sweet. Thanks!

[shred5]

Sweet. Thanks!

I had edit my post above with a little more info while you were replying to me.

[MrsBugmaster]

Need help picking out a new skimmer. I need a skimmer that works great and is silent.
I have a Red Sea Reefer 170 tank (34Gal w/9 gal sump) It has to be silent per agreement with my husband in order to put the tank in living area.
I currently have the Simplicity 120 skimmer, which has a DC pump, but I do not like this skimmer. I keep have problems with it, when working properly it is silent, but doesn't always work very well. It seams like all the other better skimmers that have a dc pump are for larger tanks. I'm not so much worried about price but silent operation and fit in sump. Skimmer chamber is 11.8 x 9.8 but prefer 9 1/2" x 11 1/4" so I can get heater in there.
Can a skimmer be too large for a tank?

I was looking at:

Octopus Classic 110INT Protein Skimmer (rated as quiet pump, but not dc pump, rated at right size for my tank, tried and true brand, cant go wrong with a Reef Octopus, right?)

Nyos 120 (reviews say it is quiet, but not dc pump, rated for my size tank)

Regal 6" Int Super Space Saver Protein Skimmer (dc pump but rated for 100 to 210 gal,is this too big for my tank?)

Bubble King® Double Cone 130 (not dc pump but rated as very quiet, will just barley fit in sump, rated for my size tank)

Any recommendations on above or others?

Thanks for your help!

[shred5]

Need help picking out a new skimmer. I need a skimmer that works great and is silent.
I have a Red Sea Reefer 170 tank (34Gal w/9 gal sump) It has to be silent per agreement with my husband in order to put the tank in living area.
I currently have the Simplicity 120 skimmer, which has a DC pump, but I do not like this skimmer. I keep have problems with it, when working properly it is silent, but doesn't always work very well. It seams like all the other better skimmers that have a dc pump are for larger tanks. I'm not so much worried about price but silent operation and fit in sump. Skimmer chamber is 11.8 x 9.8 but prefer 9 1/2" x 11 1/4" so I can get heater in there.
Can a skimmer be too large for a tank?

I was looking at:

Octopus Classic 110INT Protein Skimmer (rated as quiet pump, but not dc pump, rated at right size for my tank, tried and true brand, cant go wrong with a Reef Octopus, right?)

Nyos 120 (reviews say it is quiet, but not dc pump, rated for my size tank)

Regal 6" Int Super Space Saver Protein Skimmer (dc pump but rated for 100 to 210 gal,is this too big for my tank?)

Bubble King® Double Cone 130 (not dc pump but rated as very quiet, will just barley fit in sump, rated for my size tank)

Any recommendations on above or others?

Thanks for your help!


Not A fan of Simplicity .

Dc pumps are quieter than AC pumps. Some AC pumps are quieter than others but still have not seen one as quite as DC even though some come very close.

Nyos and Deltec are popular with the Red Sea crowd.

I have used the Regal and had overflow issues till I put a valve on the air line. Reducing the speed of the pump worked but reduced the production to much. I reduced the air and it worked frigging great. Part of the issue is I think there was not enough waste in the tank and I think you would have the same problem.

Nyos 120 and the Octopus classic would work well but is is a little loader than most dc pumps. It would be a good fit and very nice skimmers.



Personally I would suggest the same as I did above Contact Adam at battle corals and ask him what DC skimmer he would suggest.
I have not used any recent Deltec skimmers but those I have used have always been rock solid. Deltec are a little more pricey but not nearly as much as some skimmers and perform very well..
That size reef is hard to size a skimmer for because of the size and some skimmers are just too much.

I was looking at the Deltec 600i DC and it looks like a good fit and is on sale. It has around 8.5 x5.5 foot print. It pulls 500 liters of air.

Honestly I think I will pick up a Deltec soon to try the new models I have been hearing and seeing allot of good things with there newer lines.

[MrsBugmaster]

shred5 So with the Deltec dc pump I need my own controller to control it? It doesn't look like it come with one.

[MrsBugmaster]

Never mind. I was looking at the wrong model. It does come with controller.

[shred5]

Never mind. I was looking at the wrong model. It does come with controller.

This skimmer looks interesting. I would like to get my hands on one to try.


How they perform who knows but RedSea has been doing some quality stuff lately.

https://www.saltwateraquarium.com/reefer-rsk-300-protein-skimmer-red-sea/

It has a Sicce pump which is one of the more reliable pumps on the market.
This pump is AC but is one of the more quite AC pumps but still not as quite as my DC pumps. The Sicce is also one of the most widely used skimmer pumps and not to bad in the efficiency range either..

[MrsBugmaster]

This skimmer looks interesting. I would like to get my hands on one to try.


How they perform who knows but RedSea has been doing some quality stuff lately.

https://www.saltwateraquarium.com/reefer-rsk-300-protein-skimmer-red-sea/

It has a Sicce pump which is one of the more reliable pumps on the market.
This pump is AC but is one of the more quite AC pumps but still not as quite as my DC pumps. The Sicce is also one of the most widely used skimmer pumps and not to bad in the efficiency range either..



This Red Sea skimmer does look interesting. Although from looking at it closely, I could be wrong, but it appears the collection cup is not removable, drained only by the attached hose? Not sure if I would like this, may be to hard to clean.

[afish70]

Hello everyone. I am beginning a new build and am in search of some guidance/advice. I am going to be doing a 90 or 120 gallon mixed reef. I have purchased a sumo/algae scrubber combo from 302 Aquatics. i am looking at using either the Eshoppes Eclipse L overflow or the Synergy Reef 16" Shadow overflow, unless someone has something better they can suggest. i have a Jebao DCP-5000 pump i was going to use fro return pump. all will be plumbed with 1" PVC. i am trying to figure out the skimmer for this setup and if the pump I have will be enough. I have been looking at the Vertex Omega 150, the Reef Octopus Classic 150 EXT, the Reef octopus Classic 150 INT and the new IceCap K-1 160. What are y'alls thoughts on these skimmers? What about my setup? All advice greatly appreciated.

[shred5]

I do not like the Synergy 16" even though I love their 20" overflow. The 16" seems flimsy. I have used the 20" on several tanks and love it.

Never heard a bad thing about the Eclipse overflow.

I have been using the Modular marine ones lately and like them.

[afish70]

i just tried to look up Modular Marine and their site says they're not taking any more orders. How do i get information on them?

[dpstrand]

I switched from a vertex omega 130 to a tunze 9410DC recently on my 130g cube.

I am very happy with the consistency and performance (and lack of overflowing!), however, it isn't all that quiet. Audibly it seems on par with the vertex. I don't think it's pump noise, it's more like the rumble of air being chopped up by the needle-wheel, at least I think.

Is there anything quieter out there that can still compete with the performance of the tunze?

[shred5]

i just tried to look up Modular Marine and their site says they're not taking any more orders. How do i get information on them?


They rarely have the website up. They sell on eBay but it says away for now and it happens like every other month.. I think he is small but get so many orders he has to catch up.. His prices are real good...

[shred5]

I switched from a vertex omega 130 to a tunze 9410DC recently on my 130g cube.

I am very happy with the consistency and performance (and lack of overflowing!), however, it isn't all that quiet. Audibly it seems on par with the vertex. I don't think it's pump noise, it's more like the rumble of air being chopped up by the needle-wheel, at least I think.

Is there anything quieter out there that can still compete with the performance of the tunze?

The 130 is a overflow monster. Pump is oversized for the skimmer in my opinion. Talk to Roger of Tunze he might be able to help.

[reeftivo]

I switched from a vertex omega 130 to a tunze 9410DC recently on my 130g cube.

I am very happy with the consistency and performance (and lack of overflowing!), however, it isn't all that quiet. Audibly it seems on par with the vertex. I don't think it's pump noise, it's more like the rumble of air being chopped up by the needle-wheel, at least I think.

Is there anything quieter out there that can still compete with the performance of the tunze?

my akula UKS 160 is silent :). Sick skimmer! I've been meaning to do a review on the akula, but I have been battling dinos for a while now and have been a little disheartened lately with my reef. Corals and animals are fine but good grief the dinos!

9410 is normally a louder skimmer since the pump does'nt have any vibration cush due to the hard plumb at the side. they perform well though

[Wind]

Just picked up the Deltec MCE600 HOB and feel like it was a big mistake!

Bunch of micro bubbles, collection cup overfilling when not tweaked properly and when feeding frozen food and what not. Sheesh. To get it to skim, had to restrict air; but when you do, the outlet pipe just pours micro bubbles.

Big design flaw all around! And a big disappointment.

Anybody know how to remedy this? Has anyone actually downgraded the pump?

[Gabriel4192]

question? what do you think about using two skimmers? I have a 220gallon display with 8 foot sump refugium 160 gallons.

[Crowed]

Anyone try to make meshwheel from titanium mesh or something like that?

[Wind]

Just got the Aquamaxx sump skimmer ws-1 and want to know where I can get a longer tubing to connect the safe drain from collection cup. I believe it's a 10MM inner diameter?

I also have the water line sitting at about 10.5", think it may be a little too much, so I'll try raise it up a bit. Right now, it's overflowing, even with the cup at the highest sitting.

Thinking of using egg crate to raise the height a bit? Thanks